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Re: On being gay [Re: feldman114]
    #26502998 - 02/25/20 11:28 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You think you have it bad imagine being attacked to passable trans women! They basically don't exist! At least you have options :lol: ..


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Re: On being gay [Re: Shenmue]
    #26503009 - 02/25/20 11:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Idk man, that makeup reviewer chick from YouTube could’ve fooled me. My wife is like addicted to her videos, and one day she puts out a vid like “oh btw, I was born in the wrong body”.
Anyone know who I mean? No idea what her name is...chubby, super viral, did a video with Snoop once?


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Re: On being gay [Re: feldman114]
    #26503013 - 02/25/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Ok I guess that makes sense. He’s gay, so obv he find men attractive, right up until the act, when the guilt kicks in.
I thought maybe he’s like a new letter, or a Q maybe.

Hope I’m not stepping on any toes (or feelings). I’m genuinely interested. It took like 40m of explanations for me to understand the difference between B’s and Q’s lol. Just don’t wanna be ignorant🤷🏻‍♂️




Why does everyone assume it’s guilt? It’s just a genuine dislike of the mechanics behind sex with a man. It’s got nothing to do with some sort of “we shouldn’t be doing this” it’s just a dislike of the act and actions based on much experience with it. Hence why I’m in a weird position, I am attracted to men and that’s well and good as long as sex doesn’t get involved. Kissing is fine, dating is fine, sex is a not really


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Re: On being gay [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26503026 - 02/25/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Asexuality.-- is the lack of sexual attraction to others, or low or absent interest in or desire for sexual activity. It may be considered a sexual orientation or the lack thereof.


With regard to sexual activity in particular, the need or desire for masturbation is commonly referred to as sex drive by asexuals and they disassociate it from sexual attraction and being sexual; asexuals who masturbate generally consider it to be a normal product of the human body and not a sign of latent sexuality, and may not even find it pleasurable.[12][24] Some asexual men are unable to get an erection and sexual activity by attempting penetration is impossible for them.[25] Asexuals also differ in their feelings toward performing sex acts: some are indifferent and may have sex for the benefit of a romantic partner; others are more strongly averse to the idea, though they do not typically dislike people for having sex.[12][17][23]


Prevalence

Kinsey scale of sexual responses, indicating degrees of sexual orientation. The original scale included a designation of "X", indicating a lack of sexual behavior.[29]
Asexuality is not a new aspect of human sexuality, but it is relatively new to public discourse.[30] S. E. Smith of The Guardian is not sure asexuality has actually increased, rather leaning towards the belief that it is simply more visible.[30] Alfred Kinsey rated individuals from 0 to 6 according to their sexual orientation from heterosexual to homosexual, known as the Kinsey scale. He also included a category he called "X" for individuals with "no socio-sexual contacts or reactions."[31][32] Although, in modern times, this is categorized as representing asexuality,[33] scholar Justin J. Lehmiller stated, "the Kinsey X classification emphasized a lack of sexual behavior, whereas the modern definition of asexuality emphasizes a lack of sexual attraction. As such, the Kinsey Scale may not be sufficient for accurate classification of asexuality."[29] Kinsey labeled 1.5% of the adult male population as X.[31][32] In his second book, Sexual Behavior in the Human Female, he reported this breakdown of individuals who are X: unmarried females = 14–19%, married females = 1–3%, previously married females = 5–8%, unmarried males = 3–4%, married males = 0%, and previously married males = 1–2%.[32]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality


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Re: On being gay [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26503029 - 02/25/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe you’re not in the right...errr, how do I say this...maybe you need to change to the other altitude of dislocation?:nerd:

Look, if I feel hungry for pork rinds, I go get some and they NEVER taste bad when I’m craving them. Same with sex. I’ve never had an orgasm and was like “meh, didn’t really enjoy that”...

There has to be an explanation here, unless you’re trolling. But you seem weirdly genuine, even while being dogmatic.
You must see how the religious upbringing theory fits the bill. It’s pretty common too, as are repressed memories of childhood trauma.

Let me ask you, how long has it been since your last trip? You sound in need of a hard reset.


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Re: On being gay [Re: feldman114]
    #26503039 - 02/25/20 12:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Maybe you’re not in the right...errr, how do I say this...maybe you need to change to the other altitude of dislocation?:nerd:

Look, if I feel hungry for pork rinds, I go get some and they NEVER taste bad when I’m craving them. Same with sex. I’ve never had an orgasm and was like “meh, didn’t really enjoy that”...

There has to be an explanation here, unless you’re trolling. But you seem weirdly genuine, even while being dogmatic.
You must see how the religious upbringing theory fits the bill. It’s pretty common too, as are repressed memories of childhood trauma.

Let me ask you, how long has it been since your last trip? You sound in need of a hard reset.




I don’t trip and it wouldn’t change anything if i did.

And it is possible to crave something you don’t like. Sexual attraction is one thing but the act(s) themselves is another. I’m fine with being attracted to guys and cuddling but I don’t like sex with them. I dislike craving and being turned on by something that inside I don’t really like.

It’s like I crave diet soda even though I know I feel sick after it or how I want Chipotle even though I end up in the bathroom and it’s not the good. Humans are foolish creatures.

It’s not trauma or religion, it’s just the experience I had with having sex with guys. I didn’t really like any part of it, but I can’t really stop being attracted to men. There’s also no childhood trauma associated with it, you guys need to think instead of popping out textbook responses.


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Re: On being gay [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26503044 - 02/25/20 12:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Pfff riiight, mushrooms won’t change how you think....said every high-schooler before trying them.

Textbook responses and thinking kinda go hand-in-hand. The most rational explanation is usually true, dr. Watson.


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Re: On being gay [Re: feldman114]
    #26503045 - 02/25/20 12:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

This is the kind of trans girl I'm attracted to. 100% passable without the smelly/bloody fish hole lol.



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Re: On being gay [Re: Shenmue]
    #26503053 - 02/25/20 12:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Love the divine poster in back, lol! Matter of fact, divine was hot.:shrug:


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Re: On being gay [Re: feldman114]
    #26503057 - 02/25/20 12:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Idk man, that makeup reviewer chick from YouTube could’ve fooled me. My wife is like addicted to her videos, and one day she puts out a vid like “oh btw, I was born in the wrong body”.
Anyone know who I mean? No idea what her name is...chubby, super viral, did a video with Snoop once?




Yeah I know who you're talking about. She's famous on YouTube.


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Re: On being gay [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26503060 - 02/25/20 12:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Love the divine poster in back, lol! Matter of fact, divine was hot.:shrug:





Her name is bailey jay. She's a famous trans porn star. Even joe rogan talked about her lol. She's smoking hot.


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Re: On being gay [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26503069 - 02/25/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Damn. She doesn’t even need to say she’s trans🤷🏻‍♂️
Surgeons found a way to fix the Adam’s Apple now too? Sounds hella dangerous is all. But I guess if a person got enough balls to literally remove their balls, cutting a piece of their windpipe doesn’t scare them much...

I imagine being “passable” has something to do with transitioning before puberty is finished. That way, women don’t get the raspy voice and hairy body? Just a guess.


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Re: On being gay [Re: feldman114]
    #26503089 - 02/25/20 12:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Pfff riiight, mushrooms won’t change how you think....said every high-schooler before trying them.

Textbook responses and thinking kinda go hand-in-hand. The most rational explanation is usually true, dr. Watson.




I know a few people who weren’t changes by them soooo.....there.

As for the sex, I guess part of it is that every time I had sexual with a guy he didn’t respect my wishes or needs in it. I felt like a doll, used. I felt like my needs didn’t matter to the other guys and so I learned to stuff my wants down because I was afraid they would leave me if I didn’t. But saying no mean to keep doing it to them, and they didn’t understand what it meant. No guy I had sex with respected me or my body:


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Re: On being gay [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26503112 - 02/25/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Pfff riiight, mushrooms won’t change how you think....said every high-schooler before trying them.

Textbook responses and thinking kinda go hand-in-hand. The most rational explanation is usually true, dr. Watson.




I know a few people who weren’t changes by them soooo.....there.

As for the sex, I guess part of it is that every time I had sexual with a guy he didn’t respect my wishes or needs in it. I felt like a doll, used. I felt like my needs didn’t matter to the other guys and so I learned to stuff my wants down because I was afraid they would leave me if I didn’t. But saying no mean to keep doing it to them, and they didn’t understand what it meant. No guy I had sex with respected me or my body:



Ah ha! Now we're getting somewhere! This is excellent self realization and the beginning to a better you/way of being. One can not change the past, but one can shape the future thereby changing it! It sounds like you let someone be a predator and dominate you because of the guilt you may subconsciously feel of having same sex attraction, so you sought out (consciously or subconsciously) people/persons who would make you feel like you felt in a negative way, like maybe you deserve to be treated badly because it's wrong to desire or be attracted to the same sex.


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Re: On being gay [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26503119 - 02/25/20 12:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Pfff riiight, mushrooms won’t change how you think....said every high-schooler before trying them.

Textbook responses and thinking kinda go hand-in-hand. The most rational explanation is usually true, dr. Watson.




I know a few people who weren’t changes by them soooo.....there.

As for the sex, I guess part of it is that every time I had sexual with a guy he didn’t respect my wishes or needs in it. I felt like a doll, used. I felt like my needs didn’t matter to the other guys and so I learned to stuff my wants down because I was afraid they would leave me if I didn’t. But saying no mean to keep doing it to them, and they didn’t understand what it meant. No guy I had sex with respected me or my body:



Ah ha! Now we're getting somewhere! This is excellent self realization and the beginning to a better you/way of being. One can not change the past, but one can shape the future thereby changing it! It sounds like you let someone be a predator and dominate you because of the guilt you may subconsciously feel of having same sex attraction, so you sought out (consciously or subconsciously) people/persons who would make you feel like you felt in a negative way, like maybe you deserve to be treated badly because it's wrong to desire or be attracted to the same sex.




Dude that is so far off that it’s not even in the same time zone.


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Re: On being gay [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26503120 - 02/25/20 12:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I am just speculating from random bits of information here, and I do not claim to be a psych major or doctor. Please explain in more details.


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Re: On being gay [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26503142 - 02/25/20 12:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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feldman114 said:
Pfff riiight, mushrooms won’t change how you think....said every high-schooler before trying them.

Textbook responses and thinking kinda go hand-in-hand. The most rational explanation is usually true, dr. Watson.




I know a few people who weren’t changes by them soooo.....there.

As for the sex, I guess part of it is that every time I had sexual with a guy he didn’t respect my wishes or needs in it. I felt like a doll, used. I felt like my needs didn’t matter to the other guys and so I learned to stuff my wants down because I was afraid they would leave me if I didn’t. But saying no mean to keep doing it to them, and they didn’t understand what it meant. No guy I had sex with respected me or my body:



Ah ha! Now we're getting somewhere! This is excellent self realization and the beginning to a better you/way of being. One can not change the past, but one can shape the future thereby changing it! It sounds like you let someone be a predator and dominate you because of the guilt you may subconsciously feel of having same sex attraction, so you sought out (consciously or subconsciously) people/persons who would make you feel like you felt in a negative way, like maybe you deserve to be treated badly because it's wrong to desire or be attracted to the same sex.




My thoughts exactly.

Here’s a big surprise: I’ve been in that exact kind of situation...with a woman. I really liked this chick, but later realized she was a nympho (as opposed to being really into me) . It wasn’t so much physical as it was psychological - she’d pressure me into doing shit I wasn’t into and my fragile male ego went along with it. She basically bullied me in bed lol...wasn’t funny at the time though, fuck that.

Thanatos, it’ll take some time, but I can promise you not everyone is like that. I’d say it’s about a 1:3 ratio of people to assholes out there, ime.


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Re: On being gay [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26503160 - 02/25/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Are we really happy
With this lonely game we play?
Looking for words to say

Searching but not finding
Understanding anywhere
We're lost in this masquerade

Both afraid to say we're just too far away
From being close together from the start
We tried to talk it over
But the words got in the way
We're lost inside this lonely game we play

Thoughts of leaving disappear
Every time I see your eyes
No matter how hard I try
To understand the reason
That we carry on this way
We're lost in a masquerade

We could just start over
But it's oh so hard to do
When you're lost in a masquerade


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Re: On being gay [Re: feldman114]
    #26503192 - 02/25/20 01:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I know that logically it’s just bad luck that every guy I meet is like that. But when it happens 10+ times it’s hard to remember that fact. I can honestly say I haven’t had a positive sexual experience with another man, which is why I usually stuck to myself. Well I won’t say never, there was just one guy but I’m not sure where we stand and he usually never gets back when I message but will always reply when he starts one. But with him it was in explicably great and I don’t know why. Unfortunately he was one in a ocean of my experience and I can’t reach him anymore.


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Re: On being gay [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26503225 - 02/25/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Damn that’s tough luck for sure.
I see how that can put you in a depressed “they’re all the same” mind state.

Life is weird though. The right person tends to show up when you stop looking...it’s a story you hear again and again.


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