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Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA?
    #26501263 - 02/24/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

My first time taking MDMA, I thought: Wow, nothing can make me feel as euphoric as that. But the euphoria is grounded in this world.

Then I tried LSD and thought: that wasnt quite as euphoric as MDMA but it was WAY cooler.

Then I tried mushrooms and thought: HOLY SHIT this is more euphoric than MDMA and just as cool as acid - mushrooms to me are like closing my eyes and floating through the galaxy-type euphoria. Its something out of this world that words just cant explain. I think that's what gives it the edge on MDMA

Does anyone else agree that mushrooms produce profound feelings of euphoria even when compared to other psyches? I've never tried DMT or mescaline but I've taken mushrooms, LSD, and MDMA all multiple times and I still think mushrooms are the best. Even with the nausea included, mushies are my favorite and the other two never even make me nauseous.


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26501266 - 02/24/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Definitely more euphoric than LSD not even close to LSA tho.


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Shroomhunts]
    #26501342 - 02/24/20 11:35 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Definitely more euphoric than LSD not even close to LSA tho.




I'm unfamiliar with LSA. Is that a precursor of some sort to LSD?


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26501369 - 02/24/20 11:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

LSA is naturally occurring lysergimide present in The seeds of morning glory and HBWR. 


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: TokeItUp12] * 1
    #26501704 - 02/24/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I definitely agree with this. The first time I took mdma though, in pill; ecstacy form, I remember saying to bestie; “this is just like acid but without the fear”.

With “acid” I meant psychedelics, specifically LSD and Liberty Cap mushrooms.

These days, I resent my mdma days. I thought they were an easy way to happiness. But the comedowns began to last longer, and longer, and really interminably longer! I’ve since changed my perspective on it.

Mushrooms on the other hand; well I’ve learnt to respect the fear they induce, but the unsurpassed natural healthy euphoria they induce, in my humble opinion, is second to none.

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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26501709 - 02/24/20 02:54 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Mushrooms can feel very euphoric, yes.

I have had some great times feeling like a child seeing the beauty of the world for the very first time.

But in a natural way. Mdma feels forced in comparison.

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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26501737 - 02/24/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

it may be forced, but MMDA like Speed as sympathomimetic drugs produce a mental and physical euphoria more pointedly than any psychedelics. Mescaline may be close to them as it is also a phenylelthyamine type drug. The feeling is expansive from the heart area - very dancy!

shrooms and acid are only mildly euphoric, but your emotions can become inspired on these drugs and could beat out the phens (MMDA SPEED MESC etc.) in euphoria, but that is all in the mind.


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26501743 - 02/24/20 03:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Absolutely agree, Pandemoon. I remember at the time assuring my wife I’d done all the research. I had, but it was a classic case of confirmation bias; I only read the reports that backed up what I already (thought I) knew.

I knew it, but it felt so good. For years I’d yearned to go back to psychedelics, but a feeling of responsibility kept me straight. My daughter died 20 years ago, Nd that screwed me up big time. But I never hit the drugs until in my 30s my wife and I came to the realisation we couldn’t have more children. So we went wild in the rave scene for a few years. Until my wife came pregnant!!!

I carried on with the mdma for another year (narcissistic bastard, that’s me!), but the comedowns became too low, and for too long. 15 years later, I think mushrooms are starting to heal the chemical damage that was done using mdma repeatedly.

But that’s the opinion I now have of mdma; it’s a man made chemical. Natural chemicals, as Terence McKenna advocated, is the only drug you should take.

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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26501816 - 02/24/20 04:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Depends on if you desire the "euphoria" produced by MDMA during the experience, or the "euphoria" produced by mushrooms, in the lessons and opportunities they can open up, for many moments after, and while not on them.

MDMA can be a great heart opener and help deal with trauma and solidify connections.

LSD kind of a different tool, but great for work with meditation and creative processes.

If I had to choose an ally, it would be mushrooms for me all the way. Much respect to the fungi.


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Maylink]
    #26502551 - 02/25/20 03:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

People forgetting that mescaline is the best, if we’re talking pure euphoria and not benefit to one’s life


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26502565 - 02/25/20 04:26 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

A lot of the time you just make it up as you go along KJ.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Northerner]
    #26502580 - 02/25/20 04:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well obviously it's all subjective but mesc is the purest phenethylamine (like MDMA, but with all the good psychedelic effects too), and the calmest and nicest pysch.

Everyone I know who has tried it (albeit not many) agree that it is the most euphoric pyschedelic


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26502586 - 02/25/20 05:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Still making it up as you go along. :undecided:


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Northerner]
    #26502741 - 02/25/20 08:15 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

While actively on the substance, I've probably had my most euphoric times on LSD - where I'm just stupidly overwhelmed with happiness and sensual satisfaction.
But it's hollow and fleeting.

Mushrooms have given me an active euphoria close to that, but not quite to the extent and certainly with a different flavor. Which I'm kind of grateful for, because I think it would cheapen it for me, were it akin to that LSD euphoria.
Mushrooms also have a resonating sustenance about them. They give a deep and profound nourishment to my happiness that, arguably, has persisted into today from the first time I took them 16 years ago.

I can't speak for MDMA as I seem to be incompatible with it or I need a much higher dose than the average.
But, from what I can tell, it also gives that hollow euphoria.

If you're looking to get fucked up, feel great in the moment, and have a fun time party party... mushrooms aren't really the go-to.
Although I have personally had some of my best fun time party parties on mushrooms.

Hippy flips sound fantastic. But, alas, I've never gotten anything beyond the mushroom from the times I've tried.


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Northerner]
    #26502815 - 02/25/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Still making it up as you go along. :undecided:



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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26502882 - 02/25/20 10:12 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Idk, oral DMT/Aya is pretty damn euphoric for me, so too has been Psilohuasca, in fact my last Psilohuasca experience using 35mgs of 4-ACO-DMT with 2.5 grams of Rue seed and 4 grams of Lemon Balm tea, had me in full on ecstasy, if it can get any more euphoric than that, then holy crap lol. I highly recommend Psilohuasca dudes, i mean it. Though at the same time, mindset can play a role i think, but if you can manage to navigate yourself into an ecstatic state, you're good to go.


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Sabnock]
    #26502884 - 02/25/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

DMT sounds crazy. Definitely something I want to try but haven't been able to find it just yet. Heard you can get a similar experience from way too much shrooms though?


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26502908 - 02/25/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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DMT sounds crazy. Definitely something I want to try but haven't been able to find it just yet. Heard you can get a similar experience from way too much shrooms though?




Idk, haven't taken a heavy dose of Shrooms. I can say though that Psilohuasca is very close and similar to Ayahuasca, the Psilocin can definitely feel more DMT-like, but at the same time Psilocin seems to lack certain aspects of DMT, they feel very similar, yet a bit different, i think it's because DMT has a wider receptor binding profile compared to Psilocin. As far as obtaining DMT goes, just get some Mimosa or Acacia root and consume that with an MAO-A inhibitor like Rue/Caapi/Harmalas or Moclobemide, or extract from the root yourself.


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Sabnock]
    #26502914 - 02/25/20 10:37 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Wait, it's possible to do DMT with no extraction?
Could you link a tek to that? I've only seen advanced (for me) chem stuff.


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Re: Are Mushrooms more euphoric than LSD and MDMA? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 1
    #26502962 - 02/25/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Nature Boy wrote a nice tutorial a few weeks ago after having sucess brewing ayahuasca.

Oral dmt (ayahuasca) is the shit. Indigenous people do it for thousands of years.
No extraction, you simply boil two legal! plants for several hours, reduce, drink. Pretty similar to cactus brewing.


https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26257635

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26216646

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26405691


Oral dmt is little different to smoked dmt, though.
Smoked it's a fast paced shot into hyperspace for 15min, oral it's more like an advanced mushroom trip, lasting quite as long (3 to 6 hours, depending on the dose).
It doesn't build up a tolerance, you can trip everyday, or multiple times per day without diminishing effects. :thumbup:

I always extract my shit. Dmt as well as the harmalas (maoi). With extracted, pure crystals it's easy to meassure and easy to dose (just swallow two capsules, no taste no brewing).

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