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Beginner research.
    #26500663 - 02/23/20 10:31 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

New to psychedelics.  Several trips with LSD.  Interesting in trying mushrooms and DMT at some point. Looking for some direction.  Where to start, type, amount, route.  I’m definitely looking for the spiritual experience, introspection, enlightenment, etc. Advice?  Opinions?


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Re: Beginner research. [Re: MasoKass] * 1
    #26500689 - 02/23/20 11:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Speaking from my own experience:

Start at 3.5. If you've already tripped with LSD this will not be too much to handle. Go to 5 next, and then possibly higher after that, if you're looking for a spiritual experience.

Others will tell you otherwise, but really 3.5g will not be too much to handle for a competent pyschonaut. Was honestly a little bit underwhelming for what I was expecting having done monstrous acid doses.


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Re: Beginner research. [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26500706 - 02/23/20 11:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ok. Cool.  Any specific type to start.  Can get my hands on penis envy but understand it’s potent?  And oral ingestion?


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Re: Beginner research. [Re: MasoKass]
    #26500718 - 02/23/20 11:48 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

One of the best places for a starting a trip is in your room, low lighting or no lighting.

I recommend making the Lemon Tek or making a shroom Smoothie with powdered shrooms. 2-3 grams is a good place to start.

DMT is very intense but short-acting. Shrooms are very similar to DMT but stretched out to 4-6 hours. For taking DMT, I highly recommend using a dab rig bong with a microspoon. It works very well.

Start low/medium with doses with DMT which is around 20-30mg. If you are ready for the full experience, take double this.

When trying a new psychedelic, its a good idea to try one when you are feeling relaxed and confident. Its the best way to have a pleasant experience.

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Re: Beginner research. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26500728 - 02/24/20 12:01 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Awesome!!  Thanks for the info!!!


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Re: Beginner research. [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26500843 - 02/24/20 02:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Korean Jesus said:
Speaking from my own experience:

Start at 3.5. If you've already tripped with LSD this will not be too much to handle. Go to 5 next, and then possibly higher after that, if you're looking for a spiritual experience.

Others will tell you otherwise, but really 3.5g will not be too much to handle for a competent pyschonaut. Was honestly a little bit underwhelming for what I was expecting having done monstrous acid doses.




I find mushrooms quite a different experience to acid: in some ways it can be a more strange and disorientating trip. Hard to describe exactly how, but I find certain things much more of a headfuck on shrooms. For instance: I can't (so far) listen to electronic music on shrooms, which is odd, because I love electronic music. On shrooms for me it has to be singing with natural-sounding instruments. Anything else sounds very harsh.

For me, so far, shrooms (cubes) mess with my thoughts and physical senses more than they cause visual disturbances. I haven't done acid for a while, but I think I always felt that it was stronger visually but mentally more lucid.

Yesterday I did 2.5g. That was very intense at times and at one point I wished I hadn't taken so much, but the set and setting weren't ideal (it was early evening and I hadn't fully made arrangements for all my responsibilities to be taken care of).

I have found that the mid-point of a mushroom trip can really turn your brain to spaghetti. I still find it hard to imagine going out to a party on shrooms, unless it's a very low dose, like 0.2g

I also find that it's very important to have some kind of ritual, intention etc when taking them.

When I was younger I'd just pop acid and go to a rave or a festival. Had some fantastic experiences and some not so great. Back then my responsibilities were different though. These days responsibility is a big deal for me.

Personally, I'd start with a cautious dose like 1.5g. See how that goes and then next time up the dose. That's what I'm doing. I've been on this for a few weeks now and I'm still working up to 3.5g. Maybe next week! :smile:


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Re: Beginner research. [Re: Psyence]
    #26501112 - 02/24/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Up until 3 weeks ago, Psyence, I was exactly the same. Then after much debate on the shroomery, I set aside a trip to re-try psy-trance. Turned out to be the best ever “lying down” rave I’ve ever gone to.

Check out Infected Mushroom - Classical Mushroom; but more than anything else, check out Hallucinogen - Twisted. You will not be disappointed.

Haven’t listened to Shpongle in over 3 weeks after discovering that I actually DO enjoy electronic music on mushrooms 👍🏻


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Re: Beginner research. [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26501158 - 02/24/20 09:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I like tripping at night under the stars on a warm summer night.
or around a campfire with a few close friends, usually at the beach.
...but for a good first experience I would suggest taking 3.5g
Go on a nature walk or a hike, either alone or with a close friend.
Go somewhere your not going to run into lots of people.
Roll up lots of weed and when things get to intense distract your self by smoking.

Tripping alone in your room is fun but connecting with nature and close friends is unbeatable imo.


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Re: Beginner research. [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26501178 - 02/24/20 09:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

DJ Ed said:
Up until 3 weeks ago, Psyence, I was exactly the same. Then after much debate on the shroomery, I set aside a trip to re-try psy-trance. Turned out to be the best ever “lying down” rave I’ve ever gone to.

Check out Infected Mushroom - Classical Mushroom; but more than anything else, check out Hallucinogen - Twisted. You will not be disappointed.

Haven’t listened to Shpongle in over 3 weeks after discovering that I actually DO enjoy electronic music on mushrooms 👍🏻




OK! Will give it a go. I do like a bit of psy trance, but I've never really listened to it while tripping. That's what it's made for, after all :smile:

Most of my electronic music is heavy stoner stuff with too much of a dark-side edge to it to really work on shrooms.


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Re: Beginner research. [Re: Psyence]
    #26501207 - 02/24/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Me too pal, but last few years since returning to mushrooms, there’s been much more Shpongle in there too.

I am convinced the trance effect put me into a trance; not only that, that it also potentiated the trip, and extended it. I was going really strong at 5.5 hours in when my wife came home, it was a full 30 minutes before I could open my eyes and talk rationally to her. In those 30 minutes though, I led there listening to the end of the playlist holding her hand, in total bliss.

Probably wait until you’re at the peak; when I’ve tried trance in the past, with hindsight it’s always been in the come up. Not the right music for come up, I don’t believe. So I’d recommend wait until at least 1.5 hours in, maybe 2, until your firmly peaking, then put an album on and close your eyes. And probably end up dancing. Try not to knock too many ornaments over!

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Re: Beginner research. [Re: MasoKass]
    #26501257 - 02/24/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The only real advice to give is that you'll need to discover things for yourself.
None of what anyone is saying, nor anything that I have to say is infallibly true - everyone's experience is completely individual.

Some people have rougher times off lower doses. Some people need huge doses to have minor effects. Some people like sunlight. Some people walk around.

Do be aware of the different species and their relative strengths. Psilocybe cubensis is the most widespread and common psychedelic mushroom in terms of general availability. It is thus the species that people tend to use as the standard - every other species is gauged relative to P. cubensis. So, for instance, Panaeolus cyanescens is considered an extremely potent species because 1 gram is easily the equivalent of 5+ grams of P. cubensis. There are exceptions within species, as well - Penis Envy varieties of P. cubensis are ~2x as potent as almost all others.
So,  just do your research in terms of what it is you're actually consuming so that you can have a gauge to discover what is right for you.

What you want to know about the experience is unanimous to all psychedelics. And that is that,
You want to be confident that you want what the substance has to offer. You want to be willing to let the substance take its course. You don't want to set expectations when going into an experience.
Whatever happens, happens. Every thing that happens should be regarded as a constructive experience - whether you get catapulted to another realm or you just feel the walls undulate and get the giggles. Hell, even if you don't get an effect from it... it's still an experience and you just have more to discover.
Be open.


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Re: Beginner research. [Re: footpath]
    #26501829 - 02/24/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you all!! ❤️❤️


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