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mycojordan23
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Keep misting or dunk?
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Hi all,
New to growing here. I colonized rye grain grow bags with GT spores from a syringe. I then mixed the colonized grain with dehydrated horse manure, exotic zoo manure, organic coconut coir, vermiculite, and gypsum and allowed the bags to colonize. About 1 week ago, I cut the bags to the substrate level and placed them in a modified SGFC with holes 3in apart on all six sides and about 3in of perlite at the base of the tub. They are on a shelf about 4ft off the ground in a walk-in closet with a 6500k light overhead and room temp of about 68-75 degrees. I mist about three or four times per day. I did not want to fruit in the bag because I have read of others' difficulties with side pinning and harvesting, and I thought my method might be a way to avoid this problem. I've included a picture of my set-up below.
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I have a couple of concerns and could use some advice. I believe I might have cut open the bags too soon. If I had to guess, the bags were probably about 85% colonized. I realize this was probably an error, but they seem to have continued to complete colonization within the FC. However, there is still some standing water that seems trapped at the bottom corners of the grow bag that worries me because of the risk of contamination. Another concern is that I think the cakes are drying out. They seem a bit lighter-weight than when I placed them in the tub, and they have pretty uniformly bruised to a light blue color, probably due to dehydration. I don't know if this can be appreciated from the photo.
I could use some advice. I am thinking I should either take the cakes out of the bag and dunk and roll them and place them back in the FC, or I can just keep misting them, maybe more frequently. If I dunk and roll them, I am worried about the risk of contamination. If I keep them in the bag, I am also worried about the risk of contamination from the standing water at the bottom of the bags, as well as the risk of dehydration, as I am not sure if misting will provide adequate rehydration to what seem to be already dehydrated cakes. However, I noticed that many of the mistakes people make are from doing too much, and I'm thinking I should change as little as possible and just keep misting and hope they fruit well. Any advice is appreciated. Thank you.
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InfiniteDreams


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Which tek are you following?
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mycojordan23
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I wasn't following any specific tek. I believe it's probably closest to PF Tek or Spitball Jedi's SGFC Tek, with some modifications. I understand that there's no need to reinvent the wheel and I likely should have just followed the grow bag method or one of the above to the T, and I may live to regret having not done so. However, I figured that if I could try to understand and follow the basic principles, I'd be okay.
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InfiniteDreams


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I would suggest getting coir and crumbling up your cakes with the coir in a bulk method. Follow the tek on coir exactly and pick a bulk tek and follow it (shoebox or mono are both popular).
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mycojordan23
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First, thanks for your replies and for your suggestion. I should mention that I had already considered breaking up the cakes, mixing them together, and putting it all in a plastic-lined monotub. But I was concerned that breaking the mycelium again might weaken it (as it had been broken first in the spawn bags to speed up colonization, then after full colonization before mixing it with the compost substrate). One concern of mixing it with coir is spreading the mycellium too thin. I originally mixed 1lb of rye grain spawn with ~2.5lb compost (per bag). Wouldn't adding coir further 'dilute' the mycellium? And if I were to mix it with coir, would I also need to rehydrate the existing substrate?
Edited by mycojordan23 (02/23/20 09:13 PM)
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InfiniteDreams


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It will take recovery time but as a whole it won't be weakened. The mycelium will grow throughout the coir and colonize it as well. It will gain hydration from the coir.
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mycojordan23
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Thanks for the advice, InfiniteDreams. I will probably act on it within the next 24 hours or so, unless I hear a compelling reason not to.
I would appreciate hearing from others as well, either in support of InfiniteDreams' suggestion or differing opinions. Thanks.
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