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Diving into agar pouring your own?
    #26497850 - 02/22/20 12:01 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Alright, going to be honest here. I had it in my head I was going to order my no pour pasty plate items last night.. did some more reading before I did. Decided Ill do it today, but found some posts/comments saying pouring your own is the way to go, and it has enough pros to be recommended. So many different opinions it, I feel like I should just start with pasty plates. What do you guys think?  Also check out these containers/dishes, what do you think?:confused:
Credit to Mr. Alien for his post that I linked.

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26374264/page/1


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26497856 - 02/22/20 12:07 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Pouring your own gives you better visibility than the pasty plates.Also pouring is very fast and easy when it get the pour down, once your hand remembers what to do. Pasty plates are awesome tho, but my only gripe is the visibility on the containers. The plates have less condensation and more surface area then the smaller plates.


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26497858 - 02/22/20 12:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Mr. Alien's no-pours look pretty legit. I've made pasty plates before, and don't like them (poor visibility).

Personally, I prefer to pour. The only way to find YOUR preference is to try both:shrug:. One will click with you more than the other.


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: WeavieWonder]
    #26497863 - 02/22/20 12:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If you are interested in pouring check out the guide in my sig, should be helpful

I always pour and use real plates,scales nicely that way


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26497864 - 02/22/20 12:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I like the link to your agar tek. Will be reading that thoroughly, as I am hooked on reading. Thank you. It looks like ill be buying the containers Mr. Alien posted about. I mean, they can go in a PC so I can try some pour and no pours out. Why not you know? Is there any reason why I shouldn't do both pour and no pour in these containers? Is it better to buy disposable petris as well?


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 1
    #26497870 - 02/22/20 12:46 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Dog just buy a case of petris, a media bottle (or use a glass whiskey bottle) and some agar and media. 1lb of malt extract is 15 dollars and 4oz of agar is 10, petris are about 70 and you should def buy a case. Best route. I promise.


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26497884 - 02/22/20 01:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Ugh those glass Petris are expensive, but would be awesome to have!! The containers I listed are solid for now though right?


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26497958 - 02/22/20 04:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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It looks like ill be buying the containers Mr. Alien posted about. I mean, they can go in a PC so I can try some pour and no pours out. Why not you know? Is there any reason why I shouldn't do both pour and no pour in these containers? Is it better to buy disposable petris as well?




The containers you listed are great for no pours, but they will be difficult to pour like regular petris because of the twist off cap.

For pours, petris are the only way to go,  honestly.


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26497982 - 02/22/20 05:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

PP5 is the only requirement. Be aware some containers are PP5 yet the lids are not. I don't think this is common though.


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: Neowynd8]
    #26498026 - 02/22/20 06:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Pouring your own plates feels preety good. A 20 stack of the plastic ones all poured perfectly cooling in front of the hood is always an awesome sight to behold.


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: Errl_Shmirl]
    #26498047 - 02/22/20 07:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Pouring plates is stupid easy once you do it a couple times. Riding a bike seems like a arduous task to a toddler but to anyone else its as easy as riding a bike.


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26498355 - 02/22/20 11:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Just use the disposable plates, not the glass ones. They are like 70$ for 500

If you are like me, you'll end up using 10x more than you think you need


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26498399 - 02/22/20 12:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Ive heard a couple people saying pouring your own at first is difficult. What makes it difficult? The actual action of pouring?


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 1
    #26498408 - 02/22/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26498411 - 02/22/20 12:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Pouring was easy for me, I started with that and pasty plates. Just watch a video, and visualize what you're going to do a few times before you actually do it.

Pasty plates can be easy to see too:



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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26498446 - 02/22/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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CatsLoveHouseMusic said:
Ive heard a couple people saying pouring your own at first is difficult. What makes it difficult? The actual action of pouring?




I think Aliens HG container is better than the pasty so i bought 40 of them and 20 normal sterile petri.

Differences i see so far:
HG containers can be poured in the open with out worrying about contams because you're going to PC them later.

Petri you must PC the agar before pouring in a SAB and sealing each with some kind of wrap.

Trade offs: HG containers have screw lids so no wrapping needed, less worry about contams from pouring, reusable. Petri: more surface area,slightly clearer, quicker/easier to work with stacks as lids lift off easier (no threads),can't be reused and theres too much plastic waste.


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic]
    #26498489 - 02/22/20 01:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Ive heard a couple people saying pouring your own at first is difficult. What makes it difficult? The actual action of pouring?




It's only "difficult" the first time in that you've never done it before and are learning a lot of things in the process.


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: Sir Pentinite]
    #26498600 - 02/22/20 02:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

you can see myc much easier on real plates, and it scales better. it would take ages to do 80 pasty plates, vs a couple of hours to do 80 regular plates. i could easily pour 500 petris in an afternoon

pasty plates are great for small scale though.

agar work has a tendency to multiply into a TON of plates, so its much easier for me to work in bulk. im also a gear whore so i like using the same equipment the pros use, since it was developed for this exact purpose


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: CatsLoveHouseMusic] * 1
    #26498689 - 02/22/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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CatsLoveHouseMusic said:
Ive heard a couple people saying pouring your own at first is difficult. What makes it difficult? The actual action of pouring?




It's a little awkward if you use something other than a media bottle. With a whiskey bottle there's a little twisting
wrist motion that you have to get in order not to make a mess. With a media bottle you can just pour.

Honestly, I've never understood the allure of no pours. To me, it's just trading one kind of work for
a different kind of work...and the lack of visibility sucks.


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Re: Diving into agar pouring your own? [Re: Asura]
    #26498711 - 02/22/20 04:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Pouring is easy if you are quick. Open the plate, never put your hand over anything sterile,. When you pour, lift at a tilt so your hand holding the lid is not over the dish and your pouring hand just pour, it only takes a second, then close the lid. It helps if you have a stack of five, start with the bottom plate, lift the lid and the stack, quickly pour, then move up to the next plate , repeat. You can pour one plate in a second or so.


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