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Poo questions
    #26498676 - 02/22/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)



This is a 5lb presterilized and pasteurized bag of poo spawned with a 3lb mycobag of rusty whyte mycelium.
It hasn't been shaken and as you can see it's got a good amount of moisture within the bag. It's still in its colonization stages but the bag does have a slightly unique unfamiliar smell to it and colonization has seemed to stall. Is this normal for poo or does it seem like there may be some sort of unseen contamination issues.

You know I had to jump to the number one message boards to ask all the pros for their advice. Been using grain/verm so the poo is kinda new even though the shoebox tek using poo seems to be going fine (see other thread "shoeboxes and poo poo") it's just this one 5lb bag that SWIM has that smells a little fishy. Any clues my fellow mycologists?


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Re: Poo questions [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26498708 - 02/22/20 04:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

looks like garbage to me man. prolly bacterial  id start over for sure. but congrats u learned pre made shit sux. im not shocked the least bit. also it shouldnt smell of anything other than mushrooms either


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Re: Poo questions [Re: jcm4620]
    #26498717 - 02/22/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If any of my stuff looked like that I wouldn't even open it.

I just birthed some RW grain yesterday, and it smelled earthy, and mushroomish, not unpleasant at all.


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Re: Poo questions [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26498738 - 02/22/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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This is a 5lb presterilized and pasteurized bag




Sounds like a sales pitch to sell you a sack of shit.

You pick one and do it. Not both.


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Re: Poo questions [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26498775 - 02/22/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

No Need To Say "SWIM". There Are Other Sentences In Your Post That Point To You, & We All Know Its You. No Offense.

The Bag Doesn't Look Too Good My Friend, I Would Not Open It Anywhere Near The Grow Area. It Would Likely Be Harmful To Future Grows, Resulting In Multiple Contaminations.

The Best Bet Would Be To Bury It In The Woods, Or In A Pot With Some Soil Outside Somewhere & Hope For The Best.


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Re: Poo questions [Re: MpSeph]
    #26498877 - 02/22/20 06:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you all for such great advice as always!

Mpseph honestly I just said SWIM for old time sake cause I don't see it much anymore haha and even more ironically is it truly is a question for a friend but I'm very close to him and we tag team a lot so as much as I wish this particular strain was mine (maybe not the contamination ha ) but SWIM is actually quite perfect)

Pumpjack  ya I was actually thinking that ...the person definitely took extra precaution as far as being clean and considering this was the only contamination for this batch I was thinking the supplier may have not been the best. And that was my mistake writing both sterilized and pasteurized I don't believe he advertised as such but I'll ask SWIM just in case. And while I'm thinking about it and even though it's slightly off topic do you mind explaining the difference between the two. (Thought pasteurized meant the hydrating and boiling and sterilized meant PCing.) Are you saying they are actually both the same or do you mean as far as poo is concerned you only need to do one or the other? Thanks for the help brudda!

Should I tag the supplier so others know or should I just leave it alone in case the person truly is trying to send a healthy product and this particular bag just had issues....

Jcm and mr.wizard thank you both for the input and I think that's the plan....gonna give it another day or so to see if anything changes and if not I'm just gonna tell him to pop it outside (unless he's already seen this thread today)
Jcm....does the smell thing go for all substrates or just poo?

You guys are all gods amongst men and I can't say how greatly I appreciate everything you all do. Sounds like so far the general consenus is that this bag is prolly not gonna follow through and the only real option would be to put it outside and hope it fruits a pin or two?

if for some reason it does fruit I will post pics.
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Re: Poo questions [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26498891 - 02/22/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The smell thing goes for spawn. Spawn should smell like shrooms. Your substrate is going to smell like whatever it is. Putting it outside may get something but personally it would be in my trash already. Good luck on the next my friend.


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Re: Poo questions [Re: Crackatoa] * 1
    #26498931 - 02/22/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Anyone have a good recommendation for sourcing poo?


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Re: Poo questions [Re: Tripglass420] * 1
    #26498936 - 02/22/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

:mushroom2: supply, sponsor


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Re: Poo questions [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26499109 - 02/22/20 09:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Anyone have a good recommendation for sourcing poo?




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Re: Poo questions [Re: Crackatoa]
    #26499202 - 02/22/20 10:24 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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The smell thing goes for spawn. Spawn should smell like shrooms. Your substrate is going to smell like whatever it is. Putting it outside may get something but personally it would be in my trash already. Good luck on the next my friend.




what crack said too- garbage that n start over. no matter what it is it shouldnt smell of anything other than earthy mushroom smell.  on another note god i love poppin open them grain jars of beautiful smelling spawn. mmmmmmmmmm


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Re: Poo questions [Re: jcm4620]
    #26501043 - 02/24/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Pasteurization or pasteurisation is a process in which water and certain packaged and non-packaged foods (such as milk and fruit juice) are treated with mild heat, usually to less than 100 °C (212 °F), to eliminate pathogens and extend shelf life.

Sterilization refers to any process that eliminates, removes, kills, or deactivates all forms of life (in particular referring to microorganisms such as fungi, bacteria, viruses, spores, unicellular eukaryotic organisms such as Plasmodium, etc.) and other biological agents like prions present in a specific surface, object or fluid, for example food or biological culture media.[1][


Sterilization is distinct from disinfection, sanitization, and pasteurization, in that those methods reduce rather than eliminate all forms of life and biological agents present.


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Re: Poo questions [Re: Tripglass420]
    #26501067 - 02/24/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Anyone have a good recommendation for sourcing poo?




Cow pasture or walk a horse trail with a bag. If anyone asks what your doing,  your getting fertilizer for GPAs tomatoes.


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Re: Poo questions [Re: MycoBrainz]
    #26501078 - 02/24/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

If anyone ask what your doing. Tell them your growing magical mushrooms. I bet they will want some from you.

Go make it legal in your local jurisdiction.

I did in mine :wink:


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