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100% colonization?
    #26497758 - 02/21/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

first monotubs in a few years, i am curious...

when people say 100% colonization are they just referring to the top? some places on the sides/ bottom of the tub havent completely been colonized. but id venture to say i just didnt get the spawn mixed in the coir completely. Thanks for your help


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26497773 - 02/21/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

tub 1


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26497776 - 02/21/20 09:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I think most would agree that is 100% colonized and is ready to fruit


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26497780 - 02/21/20 09:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Kind of unnecessary to track if you've set things up decently. Old teks will tell you to keep a tub nearly air tight until 100% then blast with FAE to fruit, but that isn't needed. Throw them into fruiting conditions from the start and they'll just do their thing.

Back in the day though, I always judged it on the top since I used a black liner, per tek, and couldn't see anything else.

Yours definitely look ready


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: medical]
    #26497797 - 02/21/20 10:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The idea is you want the mushrooms to fight any contams that might make their way into the tub. I've found mycelium grows faster when aerated. Some people say CO2 makes mycelium grow faster, that may be true for cubes, but you need O2 as well, and sealing a tub is a good way to suffocate your shrooms.

But I digress. Those tubs are more than ready to fruit.


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: antmanmax]
    #26497818 - 02/21/20 10:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

introduced to fruiting, lets see what happens


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26497874 - 02/22/20 12:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Next time just use unmodded tubs, leave the lid unsnapped, and fruit at spawning. You’re overthinking this. Those tubs are about to pin tho.


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26498031 - 02/22/20 06:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Looks like it’s about to explode with pins any day now. I use growing conditions (12/12 lighting)from inoculation. When I first started I didn’t start the light cycle until after I spawned my first shoeboxes, in doing so I realized the growth of jars and bags i had still colonizing next to these Sped up. Ever since I run 12/12 lighting all the time now.


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26498413 - 02/22/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Next time just use unmodded tubs, leave the lid unsnapped, and fruit at spawning. You’re overthinking this. Those tubs are about to pin tho.




that must be new knowledge. these are the tubs ive been using for 6 years now. i dont wanna invest anymore than necessary :P

off topic, my g2g transfers are showing signs of trich in the jars :frown:


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26501951 - 02/24/20 05:09 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

no knotting or pinning yet :frown: i cant wait


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26501957 - 02/24/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Fruit at spawning isnt new some people were doing it 10yrs ago+

Patients... it will pin.


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: mushboy]
    #26502003 - 02/24/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Fruit at spawning isnt new some people were doing it 10yrs ago+

Patients... it will pin.




how do you do your tubs mushboy?


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26502027 - 02/24/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Fruit at spawning. Unmodded usually. I got some modded tubs lying around too.

But always fruit at spawning.


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: mushboy]
    #26502103 - 02/24/20 06:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

link to a tek? maybe ill just tape over the holes and fruit at spawning to give it a shot


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26502110 - 02/24/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Uhh. Any tub tek just flip the lid day one and leave it alone. All teks are basically the same anyway.

Toss ingredients into a box. Put lid on. Mushrooms.

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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: mushboy]
    #26502118 - 02/24/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Toss ingredients into a box. Put lid on. Mushrooms.

Tek 2.0




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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: antmanmax]
    #26502131 - 02/24/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I don’t even flip the lid most times, just leave it unlatched. Just mix spawn with substrate, give it a good most of the coir is a little dry, and set the lid on regular, just unlatched.


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: jbgtaa]
    #26502133 - 02/24/20 07:02 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

That works too:rockon:


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: mushboy]
    #26502196 - 02/24/20 07:37 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

ill give it a shot on my spawn tomorrow. what do you dudes do with in vitro spawn that is contaminated. i wish there was an easy way to make it into an outside grow


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26502199 - 02/24/20 07:41 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: SynKyd]
    #26502203 - 02/24/20 07:42 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

i mean i get that, but has anyone had a successful outside grow doing that? i tried to innocculate a buddys field once with a bunch of contaminated jars/ spawn (it was a cow field with active cows and fresh poo and nothing ever happened.. :shrug:


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59] * 1
    #26502225 - 02/24/20 07:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

burying contaminated spawn is how i grew my vary first shroom.
circa 04.

toss in the ground/pot. cover with thin layer of dirt. water if dry. wait.


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: mushboy]
    #26502233 - 02/24/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

regular soil from the wallyworld?


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26502246 - 02/24/20 08:12 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

sure. i used old potting soil thatd been in a pot for a few seasons but anything should work fine. its just trying to fruit bad spawn if i were making a patch id get manure but not in this case.

i also used the same old dirt and mixed in a spoonful of brf to make a dirt ape cake.


dirt is cool:thumbup:


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: mushboy]
    #26503701 - 02/25/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

No pinning on my tubs as of yet, I don't honestly even seen any knotting


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26504021 - 02/25/20 08:40 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I’d say patience is key! Trust me I’m right where you are honestly not as far, but your tub looked like it was about to explode with pins to me


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: MushkingMulah360]
    #26504028 - 02/25/20 08:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

yeah i know i preach patience as well, its hard when your on this side of it tho :P


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26505220 - 02/26/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Tub 1 has trich :/ this is why I was anxious


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26511523 - 03/01/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Any updates? New pics?


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26511556 - 03/01/20 03:07 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Tub 1 has trich :/ this is why I was anxious




If it's any consolation, the trich was likely in the tub to begin with.


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: antmanmax]
    #26511694 - 03/01/20 04:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



i think tub 3 may be starting to knot


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59] * 1
    #26515317 - 03/03/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



this is the only tub that has pinned yet, and must i say my most underwhelming tub ive ever produced in my career lol


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26515367 - 03/03/20 07:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I wonder if the myc could have been weakened because I started it in a LC from spores and then had to clean it up from a whole mess of other shit on agar? Maybe it's just become "lazy"? Lol

This of course, could be my ignorance talking


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26515447 - 03/03/20 08:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Did you go Spore-LC-agar-grain?


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26515486 - 03/03/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Did you go Spore-LC-agar-grain?




Yeah, when the LC was colonized I let it go a few weeks cause I was being lazy. I only did a few agar xfers, maybe it's possible it's bacterial? I once had bacterial tubs and they looked a little different, never pinned


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26522489 - 03/07/20 04:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)



anyone care to share some light as to why they are small and skinny? just genetics?


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26522554 - 03/07/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The Bud Ice in the background is throwing off your fresh air. Loosen the top holes or something, I don't know anymore. I am questioning everything.


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Re: 100% colonization? [Re: numnum59]
    #26523616 - 03/08/20 09:18 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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anyone care to share some light as to why they are small and skinny? just genetics?




Those need more air I’m pretty sure, open things up for a few days!


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