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Offlineyojay50
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Theory thought, dung water included in grain prep or agar
    #26497519 - 02/21/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I've been thinking, grain to grain transfers is the fastest way to expand your spawn. And that's because it's already eating the grain so it doesn't have to get used to a new food source.

now psilocybin cubensis is a dung loving species but we put it on grain to use as spawn and it works.

if after I pasteurize my horseshit in water that's 175f, what if I take that water and incorporated into grain preparation. Or agar.

I'm brainstorming.


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Re: Theory thought, dung water included in grain prep or agar [Re: yojay50]
    #26497651 - 02/21/20 08:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I assume you are planning on adding the dung water to the grain before sterilizing it. Otherwise absolutely no way. I'd assume it would add some nutrients, although possibly not be in a desirable way. Say it throws off the PH to the point where it inhibits growth or causes the grain to clump up and prevents the mycelium from reaching every part of it. Could it be used to some degree to improve performance? Maybe with some diligent, well documented work, which I'm all for, however when grain performs very well as it is it's more likely that using dung for your substrate would be far more beneficial.

As for the agar, it sounds completely unnecessary. Without looking into it whatsoever, I wonder if bone broth techniques could render an agar-like substrate to use in a petri dish. Would be a TON of time and work, not to mention cost ineffective considering the energy required to make it. Add to that the cost of bones if you can't get them for free.

If you have the time and means to test it, I'd say go for it. Just document it well and come back with the results.


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Re: Theory thought, dung water included in grain prep or agar [Re: medical]
    #26497678 - 02/21/20 08:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

don't bother. we do g2g with good success because it's still rapidly expanding vegetative mycelium. let the mycelium consolidate a couple weeks and you will see a much slower jump off.
going grain to bulk works so well due to the drop in nutrition , also why going colonized grain to agar works so well.


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Re: Theory thought, dung water included in grain prep or agar [Re: cronicr]
    #26497722 - 02/21/20 08:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I would definitely add before pcing my grain. I will document everything. And I'm content with how everything works so far.

The dung water won't effect the grains in a negative way I believe atm.

I have the time, poop, and everything else to spend my energy testing it.

I feel it'll love the shit soaked wheat


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