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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 2
#26493093 - 02/19/20 09:22 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wbs- wild bird seed Sgfc- shotgun fruiting chamber Fruit- shroom Bulk- mixing a tub up with coir/manure whatever Spawn- the grain covered in mycelium you mix with the bulk Cake-the pf tek brf cake from jars Brf- brown rice flour Birth- shaking the colonized cake out of the jar
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: A.k.a] 1
#26493726 - 02/19/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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or use the shroomery glossary...
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 1
#26493831 - 02/19/20 06:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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If u like videos, check out Roger Rabbits "Lets Grow Mushrooms" series. Anyone got a link to those?
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#26493835 - 02/19/20 06:03 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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WildernessJunkie linked them to OP specifically in their 'wanna buy a grow kit' thread.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Mr.Wizard]
#26493905 - 02/19/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mr.Wizard said: WildernessJunkie linked them to OP specifically in their 'wanna buy a grow kit' thread.
Yeah, I didn't want to post the link because I wasn't sure if mods only could post links to external sites. They are definitely great videos. They really look like they make it easy.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 2
#26494080 - 02/19/20 08:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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And look at that. LSA Woodrose you are now the most popular new cult member at the shroomery.
First I want to send a big thank you to all of you on this thread. This is why I joined the shroomery many years ago. The sense of community and sharing of knowledge inspired me in my youth and you all are awesome.
Back to the OP, I want to explain why and how in my opinion you have created such a buzz with the desire to cultivate mushrooms for consumption. If I may share my personal experience, it was a buddy who said years ago, "Hey your a smart guy, if I bring you instructions and some syringes of spores could you grow some mushrooms for me?" (PF Tek from the shroomery, Before there were Iphones) I was like, sure. I had never eaten mushrooms, but there is something to be said about creating and enjoying the fruit of your labor. That first trip got me hooked. Partially because of the spiritual experience, but mostly because I felt like I shared in something with those mushrooms. I put in time and energy and patience and what I got back I can't explain, but it is way more grounding than just buying shrooms off the street.
I Digress, what I am trying to say is that Vicariously we would love to see you join the ranks of the willing and we can show you the way. All you have to do is take the plunge and say yes.
Bodhisatta has basically rewritten the bible on everything that works.
Also there is the Noob Forum, in my signature, a creation of SpitballJedi, but I am working on reviving it because there isn't as much traffic there as there use to be.
There are plenty of resources and people willing to help you along the way.
I agree with Mushboy, PFtek is the way to start, minimal investment because you do not need to buy a PC. I am sure there are plenty of people who would send you a spore print or syringe to start.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
#26497313 - 02/21/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey all again! (Sorry in advance about the length of this post. But I want to get this right.)
Okay, so I still have a lot of questions, but I have been watching the pf tek videos obsessively and reading up on this. So forgive me. I really am trying to learn here and not just burden you kind folks with tons of unnecessary, superfluous questions. By the way, I thought that I had to watch all the videos on that site which Wilderness Junkie linked me to. It turns out, however, there are only the four pf tek videos. I have watched them all at least 4 times each, some a lot more. I will get to ALL the videos eventually, and study them as I am studying the pf tek ones, but they seem very advanced, and SWIM would really like to keep things as simple as possible for a first run.
One problem is that the more I learn, the more questions I have. LMAO Sorry about that!
Anyway SWIM has a goal to start the actual process next week. I am not completely clear yet what questions I am allowed to ask here and which ones I'm not, so I am going to try very hard keep this very safe. But ANY questions I ask that are against site rules, I apologize for. Please just let me know if I ask or say something wrong and I can delete it immediately.
So, that said, the videos are incredibly easy to understand, and I think I will be able to do this. I hope lol.
I do have a pressure cooker, by the way, but the four pf tek videos didn't seem to show anything. So I will stick with the techniques in the video, with a regular pot, at least for now. I can always evolve to better techniques later.
So let's start with video #2, regarding what he calls the Glovebox, which is a plastic storage tote with two arm-holes cut out of it. What size storage tote would one buy for this purpose?
I have both clear vinyl gloves as well as those clear plastic "food prep" cheap ones. Are these okay, or do I need to buy latex? The video also recommends Tyvex wrist sleeves, which I have seen on leading sites all over the web (not sure if I am allowed to say the site, so I won't) or do you recommend specific brands or site sponsors to buy them?
Am I over-complicating this, worrying about the size of the two arm-holes, the type of gloves, and the wrist sleeves? I get the feeling I am.
Also, in video#2 he pulls out a hypodermic needle. This part may be sensitive, assuming you can tell me in open forum, where does one (hypothetically) get these needles filled with what the narrator refers to as "the inoculates" and is there a specific or preferred species that one (hypothetically, of course) would prefer as a someone very new to this?
Finally, the subject in the video seems to use one needle for all five jars? I was under the impression that I needed one needle for each of the 5 jars, but using one for all of them is cool. By the way, with half-pint mason jars, in total, how many jars can be inoculated with one needle?
Any specific recommendations for Bunsen burners, which in Video 2, he is using to sterilize the needle both before the first inoculation and between inoculating each jar?
He also suggests a temperature of 75 to 81 degrees Fahrenheit. However, other than using external heat, how would I keep the glovebox at that temperature, which is between 5 and 10 degrees above room temperature? It seems like the only thing keeping it above room temperature does is speed up the process? So sticking with room temp, will this lower the yield, or would it just add more time before the next step? The video says this takes 3 weeks, but if one were to be at room temp, say about 72 degrees, would this be bad, or would it just necessitate waiting, say, 4 weeks instead of 3?
Edit: okay, I just watched it again. Looks like at about 04:15 in video 2 he says room temp is fine. Still not sure if the time of this would change from 3 weeks.
Should one purchase a thermometer and leave it in the glovebox just to be constantly aware of temperature?
Okay, I have questions about videos 3 and 4, but maybe I have already gotten waaaay too ahead of myself lol. Perhaps SWIM should actually just dive in and start the process first, then worry about building a terrarium and fruiting the chamber in a few weeks when it gets closer to the time to do that?
As an aside, DAMN!! The homemade terrarium in video #3 looks very cool. I have a good drill, so I should be able to easily drill all those necessary holes in the see-through, plastic tub and the lid that fits over it. Really looking forward to building this when the time comes.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26497340 - 02/21/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh, and speaking of Mason jars: how many do I need, and what shape? May sound silly, but in the video, he uses 8 ounce jars that are uniform size, top and bottom, meaning relatively flat, with two lids. One lid being screw on and one flat that the screw top screws on over. I assume that the top of the jars being the same diameter as the bottom makes the "cakes" come out easier when the time comes?
Any recommendations where I can get those in bulk? I am going to order them soon, along with the Vermiculite, brown rice flour. The video didn't say, or maybe it did and I mussed it, but do I have to sterilize the mason jars first, before putting the substrate mix in?
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 2
#26497354 - 02/21/20 05:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes to the wide mouth q. Narrow mouth jars are near impossible to use for cakes.
If a tek doesnt mention something dont do it. Sterilizing jars before loading would be pointless.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: mushboy]
#26497358 - 02/21/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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mushboy said: Yes to the wide mouth q. Narrow mouth jars are near impossible to use for cakes.
If a tek doesnt mention something dont do it. Sterilizing jars before loading would be pointless.
Thanks! Well, for better or worse, you guys were right. I am learning now. Trouble is, the more I learn, the more questions I have.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 1
#26497361 - 02/21/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah dont use narrow (regular) mouth jars. They suck! They are a pain in the ass. Wide mouths are soooo much better thou.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26497373 - 02/21/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Yeah dont use narrow (regular) mouth jars. They suck! They are a pain in the ass. Wide mouths are soooo much better thou.
That was my assumption when I was watching video #3 where he does the fruiting, builds the Terrarium, then dumps out the cakes from the mason jar. Well, in my defense, lol at least I am making some valid assumptions here. 
Any thoughts on my other questions, folks?
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 1
#26497398 - 02/21/20 05:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I get my wide mouths from Walmart. Gorcery stores might have them too.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26497430 - 02/21/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: I get my wide mouths from Walmart. Gorcery stores might have them too.
If I'm not allowed to post this link, PLEASE delete it. I couldn't find a decent size pack on Walmart for 8 ounce jars. Does this look like a good set?
Mason Jars - 24 pack With Two-Piece lids
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 1
#26497450 - 02/21/20 06:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Links are fine. Posting source links to buy dr00gz is not allowed.
That's the jars
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: A.k.a] 1
#26497452 - 02/21/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its all coming together now 
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26497474 - 02/21/20 06:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Its all coming together now 

Awesome! I just added all three to my cart, thanks! I didn't even catch that Amazon grouped them all together.
As for other adjunct purchases, I am thinking of all these to my order: (Thoughts?)
1. 24 Extra Rings/Lids - Video #1 at 06:35 recommends two layers of jar lids separated by a layer of tin foil, so the jars rest on them, and above the water while they sterilize.
2. Is This an Okay Bunsen Burner For Needle Sterilizing In Fruiting Phase??
3. Micropore Tape - To Cover Drilled Jar-Holes
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 1
#26497478 - 02/21/20 06:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26497486 - 02/21/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Using jar lids for the bottom of the pot is a bit ghetto. Try this upgrade:
How dare you insult insult the video masters at Mushroom Videos!
I have plenty of stock pots, so I think I will go with your option A, the Dim Sum steamer. It also has the virtue of being less expensive, and looks like it does the job a lot better than the tin foil + jar lids. Not only that, but I think I will be able to see the water boiling more easily with your option than the jar lids, because the water will be more visible when I peer into the pot. I will order that.
My Microspore and Bunsen Burner choices all right?
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