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Bill_Oreilly said: I used to think PE was overrated until I got a dehydrator. Drying them 100% makes all the difference in the world.
So your opinion is to dry them first opposed to having them fresh?
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Bill_Oreilly said: I used to think PE was overrated until I got a dehydrator. Drying them 100% makes all the difference in the world.
So your opinion is to dry them first opposed to having them fresh?
No I'm just saying that it's easy to not dry them correctly which would make a real 3.5 actually a 2.2 or something (depending how poorly you dried them)
When I got a dehydrator I could get them cracker dry so a 3.5 is a real 3.5
Does that make sense?
Gotcha, dried is easier to dose
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Here is one batch..they all flop over when they get big because I didn't use a thick layer of substrate and PE is much thicker and often longer than regular cubes.
That's why I love PE...they are stronger AND they are bigger/heavier so you get more weight per batch
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Antigov]
#26338844 - 11/22/19 07:04 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bill_Oreilly said: I used to think PE was overrated until I got a dehydrator. Drying them 100% makes all the difference in the world.
So your opinion is to dry them first opposed to having them fresh?
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Antigov said:
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Bill_Oreilly said: I used to think PE was overrated until I got a dehydrator. Drying them 100% makes all the difference in the world.
So your opinion is to dry them first opposed to having them fresh?
No I'm just saying that it's easy to not dry them correctly which would make a real 3.5 actually a 2.2 or something (depending how poorly you dried them)
When I got a dehydrator I could get them cracker dry so a 3.5 is a real 3.5
Does that make sense?
Gotcha, dried is easier to dose
Well not entirely. I'm saying that if you don't dry them 100% then you weigh out 3.5g, it will be far less than 3.5g despite the scale saying 3.5. If you only dry them 50% and you weigh out a 3.5, it will only truly weigh about 1.8ish
Someone else here can explain it much better
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Asura] 2
#26339046 - 11/22/19 08:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Asura said: Primal, I can't believe you haven't done APE. What are you waiting for? 
Can anyone comment on if PE have the same body feel that APE does? It's been about 5 years since I did PE and I really don't remember it being as good as APE. APE is like what I remember ecstasy feeling like with extreme open eye visions. 4.5g and you are walking around in a waking dream. It's fun.
I haven't grown anything in a while. But that's changing: 
Gonna sign up for the APE experience this time round. Sounds like my kind of trip.
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Vibe_Enthusiast said: 2.5x more potent that standard cubes.
Not IME, PE runs a full tolerance dosage of about 150-160 g fresh whereas good ordinary cubes are in the 230-250 g fresh range. Notice I said full tolerance, that's where I am after a couple weeks dosing 4-5 days a week. But that's a significant upgrade no matter what.
Also, well PE seems a lot more like woodlovers to me than any other cube so far.
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26483101 - 02/13/20 04:15 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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I agree fully. I had always gotten normal cubes throught high school and then went to bonnaroo when i graduated in 09 and had PE for the first time and it obliterated me into the 4th dimension. With that being said, ape is another step up in potency. i was wanting to get some pan cyan going but im cool with the apes. lolol They dont yeild to heavy, they can if you have really good genes but they are fucking magnificent to see fruiting in abundance. Total worth of efforts.
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: bathingAPE] 3
#26483938 - 02/13/20 03:23 PM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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Oh cool - I finally have an APE print so I'll get started on it.
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: PrimalSoup] 2
#26496117 - 02/20/20 09:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Funny I should happen on this thread. Last night I got my ass handed to me infinite times in a finite time by the ape. I was just testing it out. Figuring on a level one experience, I took .6 gram... I'm not ashamed to say I've never been that deep before on anything. I'm utterly floored.
I was doing Tai chi while flying through space, took a shit in my shower, removed my face several times with my hands and that was all just the boring part before it really hit me.
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Smartattack] 1
#26496123 - 02/20/20 09:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Smartattack said: I was doing Tai chi while flying through space, took a shit in my shower, removed my face several times with my hands and that was all just the boring part before it really hit me. 
This is how it's done, folks.
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Smartattack] 1
#26496371 - 02/21/20 02:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Smartattack, I'm with you... I worked myself up and I am able to take 1.5G of APE, but it sends me to different dimensions every time with no concept of reality.
People writing about taking 4+G's of APE on here makes me wonder sometimes if it was really APE they took.
APE is the strongest shrooms I had in my life, period.
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: LRK]
#26496401 - 02/21/20 03:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know there's been some disinformation going on, as in a disinformation campaign, mainly to keep the hallucinogens out of the reach of most people, but it's also about keeping your "audience" in mind. It's best not to "dumb it down" as if you're speaking to a casual crowd.
I made the mistake of assuming most people read the books I read, so I started talking about things casually, or describing the hallucinations in sometimes simple terms, but it's been for multiple reasons. I thought I was going to "write a book" where most of it would be in there, but I'm not so sure about that route.
Most audience's I find myself talking to are satisfied and seem to want more and more, hence the decision to just write a book instead. It couldn't be written, published, and read soon enough, then, not just if they really want to know, but if I really feel the need to talk about it with them.
Another thing that gets me, is the "afterglow" part, where an audience seems disappointed you aren't "spiritually conscious" ("woke") or "spiritually enlightened," depending on behavior.
They think I should describe the hallucinations as soon as possible, or think they "deserve to be told" by me. It just seems weird, and like everyone is trying to get something for nothing. The DMT I extracted and smoked prepared me for the high dose mushrooms and LSD I decided to take. I've been talking about it a long time but audiences don't listen, or just want someone else to tell them "to make sure" just in case they don't believe me. It's sometimes not what you say but how you say it.
It's mainly just explaining the rest of the detail to ascertain why my life the way it is now.
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Blabble40]
#26496442 - 02/21/20 05:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am not sure I follow your reply to my previous post in relation to what I've said?
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Smartattack said: Funny I should happen on this thread. Last night I got my ass handed to me infinite times in a finite time by the ape. I was just testing it out. Figuring on a level one experience, I took .6 gram... I'm not ashamed to say I've never been that deep before on anything. I'm utterly floored.
I was doing Tai chi while flying through space, took a shit in my shower, removed my face several times with my hands and that was all just the boring part before it really hit me. 
Sounds like an endorsement to me. Grow little spores, grow!
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: Blabble40]
#26496718 - 02/21/20 09:38 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I know there's been some disinformation going on, as in a disinformation campaign, mainly to keep the hallucinogens out of the reach of most people, but it's also about keeping your "audience" in mind. It's best not to "dumb it down" as if you're speaking to a casual crowd.
I made the mistake of assuming most people read the books I read, so I started talking about things casually, or describing the hallucinations in sometimes simple terms, but it's been for multiple reasons. I thought I was going to "write a book" where most of it would be in there, but I'm not so sure about that route.
Most audience's I find myself talking to are satisfied and seem to want more and more, hence the decision to just write a book instead. It couldn't be written, published, and read soon enough, then, not just if they really want to know, but if I really feel the need to talk about it with them.
Another thing that gets me, is the "afterglow" part, where an audience seems disappointed you aren't "spiritually conscious" ("woke") or "spiritually enlightened," depending on behavior.
They think I should describe the hallucinations as soon as possible, or think they "deserve to be told" by me. It just seems weird, and like everyone is trying to get something for nothing. The DMT I extracted and smoked prepared me for the high dose mushrooms and LSD I decided to take. I've been talking about it a long time but audiences don't listen, or just want someone else to tell them "to make sure" just in case they don't believe me. It's sometimes not what you say but how you say it.
It's mainly just explaining the rest of the detail to ascertain why my life the way it is now.
Which has what to do with APE vs PE, exactly?
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: PrimalSoup] 1
#26496847 - 02/21/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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This has me super excited!! I've got about a dozen plates with APE transfers going right now... I put the parent plate to grain a few days ago... it wasnt super aggressive on agar but looks to be taking off in the jar... I'll keep ya updated!
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: roarkell] 1
#26497103 - 02/21/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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We can have a grow-along thread in TPE!
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: PrimalSoup]
#26497173 - 02/21/20 03:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I’ve never seen a post by Blabble that had anything to do with the OP
Am I the only one that thinks APEs are ugly? I can see how someone could view them as beautiful, but I think they look off-putting. Personally only tried PE, never had the opportunity to try APE. I’m intrigued by the “ecstasy” comparison, because I have seen a few reports like that, but have also seen some reports that they’re darker than most other cubes. I wonder how much of that has to do with how wicked looking they are. Personally I could see myself succumbing to darker feelings because of the way they look. I know, rationally, that looks have no influence on the effects, but under the influence of Psilocybin, rationale can, and usually does, go out the window.
I obtained a half oz of Pan Bisporus somewhere around 2013 but I never got around to eating them because I also got an oz of Pan Cyans at the same time and I thought the Bisporus just looked wicked. Fast forward 6-7 years and I’ve seen multiple reports in the pan thread about Bisporus feeling the “darkest” of all the pans. Coincidence?
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Re: Ape vs PE - the trips? [Re: LRK] 1
#26497236 - 02/21/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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LRK said: Smartattack, I'm with you... I worked myself up and I am able to take 1.5G of APE, but it sends me to different dimensions every time with no concept of reality.
People writing about taking 4 G's of APE on here makes me wonder sometimes if it was really APE they took.
APE is the strongest shrooms I had in my life, period.
Is this the stuff? 

I think you work up to it like you said. And then you accidentally take too much bc you don't know what you are dealing with...as was the case with me.
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CosmicGiggle said: I’ I’m intrigued by the “ecstasy” comparison, because I have seen a few reports like that, but have also seen some reports that they’re darker than most other cubes. I wonder how much of that has to do with how wicked looking they are.
Tea always looks pretty much the same to me.
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