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Should I trip tonight? 1
#26496840 - 02/21/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok so I’ve been dosing every two weeks since October last year. I’ve got the message, and I can feel my wife’s tension, so after a unusually potent trip a few weeks back, I said I’d have a 6 month break. I almost felt forced to say it; I said it on the comedown from the first trip in years where I’ve had to get my wife to come home!
But the week after this, last week, I had a small 2.5g dose. It was one last trip before I work down south for six months, in a weeks time. So that was that.
But I want to trip again tonight. My daughter is at home though and I don’t think my wife would be impressed.
Am I obsessed, firstly? Why should it feel “so hard” to have a break from tripping? When I’m working away, I know it won’t be a problem. I suppose that might be it; that I know I have the opportunity again tonight before I work away.
What would you guys do in my situation? I could wait until they both go to bed, then take the mushrooms, so that wouldn’t put anyone out. Am I feeling drawn because of the sort of enforced abstention starting next week?
Any advice appreciated. ❤️ DJ Ed
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: DJ Ed] 1
#26496855 - 02/21/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Not sure why you feel the need to trip so often especially when its causing tension in your marriage, but if it was me I'd keep my word to the wife and hold off for a while. I'm sure you want her to be able to believe you when you tell her you'll do or not doing something, trust goes a long way in relationships. You've already broke your 6 month fast with the 2.5g trip as your 'one last time'. At least wait til you're out of town. As you said, you've got the message <3
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Do what i did. Get your wife to start tripping. I used to do that shit where id just trip and not saying anything but i wouldnt wait for them to go to bed. We would be in the grocery store and she would be like wtf is wrong with you!? Haha no good. Like dude said trust goes a long way. We were married 8 years before my wife's first trip but it changed our relationship and brought us closer together. Id been tripping for about 10 years prior so it was nice to be able to help keep her safe during her hard trips.
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: Diego]
#26496927 - 02/21/20 12:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You’re not addicted to mushrooms, if that’s what you’re asking. Whenever I feel like I’m just counting down days until my next trip, I eat a light (2-2.5g) dose that same day. Those are usually fun and giggly but also strangely fulfilling trips.
Just trip at night. Not like you’ll fall asleep in hyperspace
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: feldman114]
#26496948 - 02/21/20 12:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Disagree with feldman. Psychological addiction is a real thing, even for things that have no physical addictive potential (gambling is a great example)
If you have the desire to trip so often you probably are psychologically addicted to tripping (I think I am too, lol). However, I don't think that's a bad thing. Tripping is good for you. But if it's causing strain with your wife you might want to reconsider... addiction is usually classified as such when it's destructive to personal relationships.
I'm not really the person to give advice on that one though, I'm still a college freshman
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Korean Jesus said: Disagree with feldman. Psychological addiction is a real thing, even for things that have no physical addictive potential (gambling is a great example)
If you have the desire to trip so often you probably are psychologically addicted to tripping (I think I am too, lol). However, I don't think that's a bad thing. Tripping is good for you. But if it's causing strain with your wife you might want to reconsider... addiction is usually classified as such when it's destructive to personal relationships.
I'm not really the person to give advice on that one though, I'm still a college freshman 
If you think you're addicted to tripping take a bigger dose. It'll fix that for you.
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Korean Jesus said: Disagree with feldman. Psychological addiction is a real thing, even for things that have no physical addictive potential (gambling is a great example)
If you have the desire to trip so often you probably are psychologically addicted to tripping (I think I am too, lol). However, I don't think that's a bad thing. Tripping is good for you. But if it's causing strain with your wife you might want to reconsider... addiction is usually classified as such when it's destructive to personal relationships.
I'm not really the person to give advice on that one though, I'm still a college freshman 
I know psychological addiction is a real thing, dude.
But comparing mushrooms to gambling is asinine. Mushrooms don’t overload your brain with dopamine...Mushrooms don’t change the amount of available dopamine at all.
Mushrooms are not addictive. There, I said it again. Growing them is another story though
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: Diego]
#26496962 - 02/21/20 12:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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feldman114 said:
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Korean Jesus said: Disagree with feldman. Psychological addiction is a real thing, even for things that have no physical addictive potential (gambling is a great example)
If you have the desire to trip so often you probably are psychologically addicted to tripping (I think I am too, lol). However, I don't think that's a bad thing. Tripping is good for you. But if it's causing strain with your wife you might want to reconsider... addiction is usually classified as such when it's destructive to personal relationships.
I'm not really the person to give advice on that one though, I'm still a college freshman 
I know psychological addiction is a real thing, dude.
But comparing mushrooms to gambling is asinine. Mushrooms don’t overload your brain with dopamine...Mushrooms don’t change the amount of available dopamine at all.
Mushrooms are not addictive. There, I said it again. Growing them is another story though
I love gambling. Avid poker player. First played roulette at age 9. Tripping is way more fun. Pyschedelics don't produce dopamine by themselves but they allow MASSIVE dopamine releases.
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Korean Jesus said: Disagree with feldman. Psychological addiction is a real thing, even for things that have no physical addictive potential (gambling is a great example)
If you have the desire to trip so often you probably are psychologically addicted to tripping (I think I am too, lol). However, I don't think that's a bad thing. Tripping is good for you. But if it's causing strain with your wife you might want to reconsider... addiction is usually classified as such when it's destructive to personal relationships.
I'm not really the person to give advice on that one though, I'm still a college freshman 
If you think you're addicted to tripping take a bigger dose. It'll fix that for you.
I'm not actually addicted to tripping in the sense that I crave it all the tine, but I do trip once every two weeks which is much more often than most people here recommend.
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: feldman114]
#26496963 - 02/21/20 12:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I say yes.
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Well I trip every Friday, but I never get fiendish about it, like I do about weed...or, lately, Booz...or, previously, amphs...
After I get reeeaally high and drunk, the first thing I want to do in the morning is chase a beer with a bowl. After a strong trip, the LAST thing I want is another trip.
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: feldman114]
#26496986 - 02/21/20 01:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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feldman114 said: After a strong trip, the LAST thing I want is another trip.
My thoughts exactly
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: Diego] 1
#26497004 - 02/21/20 01:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Do what is best for your wife and daughter. They may be not be right necessarily, but your family is more important.
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Half the posters here say my doses are too high and the other half say they're too low. Maybe everyone should dose however they want 
I dont mean any disrespect, ik y'all just offering opinions
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Back in my high school days I tripped without a care. Didnt do set or setting. Would trip high doses during horrible emotional or high stress times just to see what would happen. Now im married with kids. Shit changes dude.
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: DJ Ed] 1
#26497094 - 02/21/20 02:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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OP, I don't think you're addicted to tripping, might be your soul asking for more nutrition
But yea, talk to your wife, let her know how you feel, especially since you're going out of town for a 6 month work trip and want to have a proper trip before your work trip.
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: Diego]
#26497098 - 02/21/20 02:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I’ve put my wife and family first guys. Tripping will still be there for me anytime. I’d love to get my wife tripping, and when my daughter is 18 I’m going to have a serious conversation with her too. But yeah, my set isn’t right now; I’d be spending most of the trip thinking what my wife was thinking! Never great.
Thanks people ❤️ DJ Ed
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: Diego] 1
#26497145 - 02/21/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Diego said: If you think you're addicted to tripping take a bigger dose. It'll fix that for you.
... Actually some gold in them thar hills.
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26497230 - 02/21/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sounds a good call to me, mate As far as obsessive or addictive behaviour goes, you're prioritising family, not being impulsive, and seeking advice when unsure of yourself - I'd say you've nothing to worry about by the sounds of it!
I took a dose of libs yesterday at lunch, after a short period of deliberation - wish I'd abstained as you did! Ended up sat by a river staring at the sky for three hours, with a gale blowing into my face - now I'm at home with a grim head-cold. Interesting trip though
Edited by Shroomus (02/21/20 03:57 PM)
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: Shroomus]
#26497882 - 02/22/20 01:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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It is really hard to convey to somebody else, somebody who has never taken a psychedelic, how fundamentally “good” taking mushrooms is. They could never get it. It’s almost analogous to an old joke that used to go around: some bloke gets washed up on a desert island, and on walking around finds also that some famous supermodel is also washed up on the island. So they’re castaway together for years when one morning the bloke sees another bloke washed up on the island. The first thing he says to this new bloke is; “You’ll never guess who I’ve been sleeping with!”
The sort of connection is that, is the experience any good whatsoever if there is nobody to talk to about it afterwards?
Yep, don’t fancy waking up to an empty house! Family comes first, regardless of whether or not I “can get away with it”.
I believe though although not addicted, there is a fair amount of “obsession” that comes with mushroom use..........
Thanks all for the thoughtful responses, much appreciated. DJ Ed
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26497954 - 02/22/20 04:11 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Glad to hear you chose what you believed to be right for you and your family!
If anything, make some capsules and take them with you in a vitamin bottle.
But the break will be good. Think how incredible your trip will be when you return.
And nothing wrong with a little healthy obsession. Some people have a healthy obsession to exercise and we generally think that’s a good thing. Some “obsessions” are good and, like exercise, if mushrooms are improving your health, mental or physical, then there’s nothing wrong with it. Plus you showed that you can make the important decision and put it down for your family so you’re golden.
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Socrateshroom said: Glad to hear you chose what you believed to be right for you and your family!
If anything, make some capsules and take them with you in a vitamin bottle.
But the break will be good. Think how incredible your trip will be when you return.
And nothing wrong with a little healthy obsession. Some people have a healthy obsession to exercise and we generally think that’s a good thing. Some “obsessions” are good and, like exercise, if mushrooms are improving your health, mental or physical, then there’s nothing wrong with it. Plus you showed that you can make the important decision and put it down for your family so you’re golden.
As always, Socrateshroom, I always appreciate your input. When I read your comment last night; “yes do it”, my heart sank as I had just resolved not to take the dose. So I then tasted one; my plan was because of the late hour, I just wanted to get on with it so broke the mushrooms up and left to soak in lemon juice. I was going to eat them, Lemon Tek style, whereas I always do tea. I’d reckoned that it would be quicker not having to boil the mushrooms then wait for them to cool. But The taste of that first mushroom almost made me gag. So they all went in the bin there and then.
I’m glad I didn’t break my wife’s trust. I spoke to her about it this morning, hoping she’d be really appreciative of my decision, but she was like, oh n o I wasn’t bothered! But I still feel good I “resisted” the urge.
So no I’m not addicted, but I am definitely obsessed. You put it into such great words, though, Socrateshroom. Thank you; feeling flush and warm about myself today ✊🏻
DJ Ed
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26498067 - 02/22/20 07:20 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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So anyway, Shroomery, the plot thickens..........
So far:
I have pondered whether to trip last night after telling my wife I was taking a break.
Then last week I broke that after 1 week off Nd had 2.5g dry while my wife was out driving my daughter and her friend various places. So last night would be one week before I go away and I felt the draw. Almost dosed at the last minute, but resisted. Felt pretty flush with myself this morning. But my wife was non-plussed.
Anyway, this afternoon my eldest son and his girlfriend were on their way down from Scotland to stay over and catch up. They’ve just cancelled, due to our bad weather.
So I’m back almost at square one. So I’ll pose the question again:
Should I trip tonight?
Here’s my rationale:
- I’m not addicted, but I am quite obsessed, and love the psychedelic headspace.
- I will be having extended breaks up to 6 months from here.
- Ive been open Nd honest with wifey, and she wasn’t too non-plussed anyway.
- My daughter is now on a sleepover and therefore no other commitments tonight.
Only slight issue is that I used the last of my B+ stash last night, which ended up in the bin. So all I have left are some dubious MS Golden Teachers (ok) and Ecuador (awful). Potency not as strong as the B+, so would 3G be unreasonable? I suggest 3G because the 2.5g last week was more psychedelic than expected, so would be all I require for “one last trip”.
What do you reckon, guys?
Mush love DJ Ed
p.s. For what it’s worth I considered all your feedback last night before going with the majority, and my heart, and deciding against.......
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26498096 - 02/22/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you have to ask us if you should trip then you probably shouldn't. 
Seems like it's not the right setting / time. The doubts might overcome you and overpower the good feelings.
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: Pandemoon]
#26498117 - 02/22/20 08:14 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Pandemoon said: If you have to ask us if you should trip then you probably shouldn't. 
Seems like it's not the right setting / time. The doubts might overcome you and overpower the good feelings.
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I think there is truth to that but not always the case. I know when my ego is trying to convince me not to take a dose, even if circumstances are perfect, I come here and ask if I should take it or do something else to get validation about my decision. Doesn't always mean that my doubt will cause hardship.
If you don't have to worry about your daughter and you don't plan on spending time with your wife before you leave, and she doesn't care, I'd say go for it. (Although, since you leave for a while, I'd recommend just spending time with your wife, taking her out, etc. But I don't know the relationship you two have so I can't suggest either way).
If you do decide to take it, I'd say take a proper enough dose so you aren't wanting for more. If you know the potency is weak, I'd say take anywhere between 4-5g if you do decide to go with it.
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I’m having second thoughts already; Pandemoon is right if I’m having to ask! My wife’s more important. So I’ll see how the evening pans out and go with the flow.
Mush love all DJ Ed
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26498168 - 02/22/20 09:00 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: My wife’s more important. So I’ll see how the evening pans out and go with the flow. DJ Ed
Absolutely! I'm a single guy so my advice doesn't come loaded with the experience of someone in a long committed relationship. So take my advice with a grain of salt in this matter.
But you know best and it seems your internal mechanisms are guiding you in the right direction! Enjoy your day with your wife!
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Both me and my better half (who doesn't use any drugs except the occasional puff on a joint at a party once or twice a year) have a great time if I take a lower dose... pretty much no matter what we're doing. Going out to dinner, going for hikes, working in the garden, grocery shopping... whatever. Only caveat is that my already weak decisiveness goes straight to the pits... so she'll usually have to lead the way.
Took 11g wet yesterday for instance... started off finishing up some mushcult, then we went out to the pub, came home and had a fire with a couple friends and a couple bottles of wine. Only enough perception change to have some accentuated shadows and textures, high gloss, and more vibrancy. Loosens up my self-consciousness and makes conversation a lot easier for me. And, of course, that sweet, sweet body high. Quite the lovely day.
Of course, that all depends on the circumstances/people. We don't have children and there typically isn't too much commotion in our lives, so it's easier to find the time.
It is always my overarching advice that, if you're hesitant/uncertain, best to wait for a better time.
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Re: Should I trip tonight? [Re: footpath]
#26498283 - 02/22/20 10:35 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks Socrateshroom always.
Thanks footpath. So around 1g dry. Sounds intriguing actually. Last week on the come up of 2.5g, after I’d,promised wifey I would stay lucid. Well I actually did stay lucid for the first hour and was really chatty, in loads of company. But I could see the panic in here eyes when she asked me to retire to my psychedelic room.
So I went in there, smoked a joint, laid down, closed eyes, Nd completely zoned out. When she came in about an hour later, I was no longer lucid!
But I’m convinced if I hadn’t let go to the trip that I could remain lucid throughout. Or maybe that’s just 53 year old bravado!
❤️ DJ Ed
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