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Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks?
#26496593 - 02/21/20 08:17 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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TonyMushrana
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26496612 - 02/21/20 08:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think these white puffs will turn green anytime
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26496616 - 02/21/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks off.. kind of looks like trich before it sporalates but I wouldn’t toss yet.. could just be regular myc too.. I’d keep an eye on it and see what it looks like in the next few days.. if it’s trich, you’ll know by then
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26496645 - 02/21/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I had a tub that looked similar and I think it was because of extremely low FAE. It gave some fruits but soon turned bacterial. Just my two cents.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26496736 - 02/21/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I do probably need more air-exchange. My concern over moisture content may be tricking me into that mistake. I have read everything on watering from 2 or 3 times/day to nothing until after the first flush. It is just a learning curve thing, I suppose.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26496888 - 02/21/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Don't water at all prior 1st flush, only if you see top color starts getting bright brown(very dry coir) what usually should not happen, and if it happens misting very lightly
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: TonyMushrana]
#26497046 - 02/21/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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OK, I mix another tub today. Can you describe your FEA setup? Thank you!
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: Ombisha]
#26497151 - 02/21/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was going off that unmodified thread and gordotek on YT. I will read the the dialing modified tubs thread for more tips. I was probably high on moisture. I will try to judge moisture as TonyMushrana suggests.
Edited by bucket (02/21/20 03:11 PM)
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket] 1
#26497491 - 02/21/20 06:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am trying
Pastywhyte's Pastywhyte's monotubs
Dialed monotubs with great success
You should check them out, easy to follow and reliable 
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: TonyMushrana] 1
#26497503 - 02/21/20 06:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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no.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: Nichrome]
#26497725 - 02/21/20 09:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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That definitely looks like some green mold inbound. You can wait and see, but if you see green then toss immediately. That much will get bad fast and there's no rescuing it.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: medical]
#26497738 - 02/21/20 09:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea that's pre sporulated trich on your sub. Idk how to salvage it. Maybe there's a way
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26499951 - 02/23/20 01:32 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks all. I will report back. The cognitive stuff is fascinating... I had 90-95% humidity stuck in my head, causing me to zig, when I should have zagged (there's a parable for that). PPS-Is there a way to get email notification for new thread activity? This site is dense. I am sparse!
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26500105 - 02/23/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't think it's trich. Don't toss it yet. Alot of people say it's trich and have probably never grown trich. It's to early to tell. I'm with Fhat could be mycelium, could be a response to bacteria. Or it could be genetic.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: Sockadin]
#26500355 - 02/23/20 06:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Unless it's a penis envy blob or something, that's trich
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26506969 - 02/27/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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OK. So, I wanted it to be easy, but went the hard way. I got to learn agar, and sterilize my own jars of grain, and work inside a Still Air Box. Then mix to bulk substrate.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26506986 - 02/27/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yea hey it'll be a hundred times better the next time tho. Also some people don't learn from the school of hard knocks.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26506994 - 02/27/20 06:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Does this mean it was bad stuff?
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: Sockadin]
#26507038 - 02/27/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: Sockadin]
#26507042 - 02/27/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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yes. it is just starting to brown. I have two more tubs mixed, and three more grain bags almost fully colonized. So still some hope in this go-around. Syringes and bags and substrate were bought online (all prepared products). I will try the quarter-inch drilled tubs. I am starting to understand the reason for agar transfers, and do-it-yourself grain jars, etc. What I have been thinking was clean growth probably has not been.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26507959 - 02/28/20 10:40 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mycelium or bacteria? This bin is on day 7. I get the point now, for the complete lab setup, but I am not currently situated for it, so will use up what I have while working on general sanitation, and monotub skills.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26508712 - 02/28/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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For a week colonizing and the amount of spawn grain in that tub, it should be fully colonized by like day 5. BUT it could just be slow.. just like last time, I wouldn’t toss yet but it could be bacterial.. if it stalls at that growth, I’d say definitely bacterial. You May still get fruits with bacterial tubs... depends how bad it is. Too early to say definitively though. Is it still colonizing or has it stalled?
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: fahtster]
#26509757 - 02/29/20 01:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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It appeared to stall, but I had to leave for two days and will know for sure when I get back.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: PsilocyBen17]
#26514322 - 03/03/20 09:58 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Seems like I had dirty syringes in dirty grain bags in dirty substrate all done by a dirty practitioner. I am going to step back to making brf-verm jars in 8oz. size, steamed on stove-top, inoculated with MS syringe (fingers crossed). I'd still like to spawn to bulk pasteurized coir. I think that open-air spawning to bulk was my weakest point. Pup tent, fumigated with Lysol???
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26514335 - 03/03/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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I think that open-air spawning to bulk was my weakest point. Pup tent, fumigated with Lysol???
You can spawn to coir in open-air no problem. You also don't need to pasteurize it, you only really need to cook it. I do this by pressure cooking for two hours.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: Ombisha]
#26514359 - 03/03/20 10:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Ombisha said:
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I think that open-air spawning to bulk was my weakest point. Pup tent, fumigated with Lysol???
You can spawn to coir in open-air no problem. You also don't need to pasteurize it, you only really need to cook it. I do this by pressure cooking for two hours.
If I buy Coir in 650g bricks, how does that work, please (pressure cooking it)?
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: fahtster]
#26522351 - 03/07/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
fahtster said: For a week colonizing and the amount of spawn grain in that tub, it should be fully colonized by like day 5. BUT it could just be slow.. just like last time, I wouldn’t toss yet but it could be bacterial.. if it stalls at that growth, I’d say definitely bacterial. You May still get fruits with bacterial tubs... depends how bad it is. Too early to say definitively though. Is it still colonizing or has it stalled?
Faht
I had bin #4 set near the back door, ready to go into the garden. Walking by a couple of days later there were 6 gangly looking blessed fruits on one end of the tub (consumed, much as early-birds catch worms), and green patches on the other end. Tubs #5 & #6 are still in play... mixing BRF Cakes, tomorrow. If I get a good specimen from those (or my now doubtful tubs), it will be cloned to agar.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: bucket]
#26522356 - 03/07/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why are we still BRF to Bulking? Who ever came up with this ridiculous idea should be flogged.
BRF from MS Syringe is a gamble at best.
Just fruit them as cakes. Way easier to move if they contaminate.
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Re: Does this substrate look right, at 3 weeks? [Re: Sockadin]
#26522374 - 03/07/20 03:10 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: Why are we still BRF to Bulking? Whoever came up with this ridiculous idea should be flogged.
BRF from MS Syringe is a gamble at best.
Just fruit them as cakes. Way easier to move if they contaminate.
-I'm not doing BRF to bulk, herein:-) -MS Syringes are a Be Here Now thing. I don't have anything else to start with:-( -I hope that this grow-in-jar tek (MS Syringe inoculated) will give me something nice to clone to agar. I will also be doing some MS Syringe to agar at about the same time.
Edited by bucket (03/08/20 07:56 AM)
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