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epuonderzoek96
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Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? 4
#26494325 - 02/20/20 01:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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We are a group of researchers at Maastricht University in the Netherlands who study the potential therapeutic effects of psychedelics, and we are back again with a questionnaire study, asking for your help.
We are looking for any and all individuals who have used a psychedelic (including MDMA) in the past 6 months, in a ritualistic setting (for example, drug retreat, ceremony, or church group). We would like to ask you about the physical environment (setting) in which you took the substance, and how it impacted your experience. As always, your responses are completely anonymous. The survey will take <20 minutes to complete.
For more information, you can follow this link to the survey: https://maastrichtuniversity.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_822PNSq8BK83ds1
And for those who answered the last survey, a sample of the published articles can be found below. Thank you again for allowing science to benefit from your experiences!
Self-Rated effectiveness of microdosing with psychedelics for mental and physical health problems among microdosers
Motives for classical and novel psychoactive substances use in psychedelic polydrug users
Reported effects of psychedelic use on those with low well-being given various emotional states and social contexts
Motives and side-effects of microdosing with psychedelics among users
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: epuonderzoek96] 2
#26494859 - 02/20/20 10:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why is thread from someone with three posts and a 0 rating stickied? Why should anyone on this website contribute to this?
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Ran-D] 9
#26494867 - 02/20/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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because more research and decreased stigma means less people in cages
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Ran-D



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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: feevers] 7
#26494917 - 02/20/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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More research just means more potential for a bunch of suits to put the shit in pill form and force people to consume it in a lab setting.
I'm fine consuming mine illegally in the woods.
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Ran-D] 7
#26495088 - 02/20/20 12:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: More research just means more potential for a bunch of suits to put the shit in pill form and force people to consume it in a lab setting.
I'm fine consuming mine illegally in the woods.
You're willing to risk your freedom, that's fine, but it does not mean that's the way it should be, and that there aren't people with far more to lose than you.
Just because you like using them in the woods, doesn't mean a cancer patient shouldn't have the option to have the experience while on their death bed in a hospital. It doesn't mean religions shouldn't be able to use plants openly as sacraments like they have since possibly the beginning of religion itself.
There's not a whole lot of negative stuff that the research could find, but there's a hell of a lot of positive stuff that could really sway the tide. It's the new research and the exposure that's leading to cities decriminalizing these things, and the FDA considering re-scheduling them to be considered therapeutically and medicinally viable.
The more research the better
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Ran-D] 3
#26495545 - 02/20/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ran-D said: More research just means more potential for a bunch of suits to put the shit in pill form and force people to consume it in a lab setting.
I'm fine consuming mine illegally in the woods.
And that's great. But some people would rather take it in pill form and consume it in a lab setting (by the way, if you've seen some of these "lab settings" where people trip, I bet you'd want to do it there, too).
I want this to benefit as many people as possible. And the only way that's going to happen is through research, otherwise this will remain a drug people consume illegally in the woods.
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: antmanmax] 1
#26495700 - 02/20/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Everyone: "Who the hell has access to lab settings and Pharmaceutical psychedelics?"
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Revok] 2
#26495705 - 02/20/20 05:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I suggest the researchers go eat an 8th and sit in a dark room.
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pirate-blues



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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Ran-D] 5
#26495734 - 02/20/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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But then who will research the researchers?
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InfiniteDreams


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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: pirate-blues] 2
#26496007 - 02/20/20 08:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I will.
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Ran-D] 4
#26496245 - 02/20/20 10:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I love seeing these posts periodically appear on the forums, as it means progress is being made.
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Ran-D said: Why is thread from someone with three posts and a 0 rating stickied? Why should anyone on this website contribute to this?
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Corundum] 3
#26496367 - 02/21/20 02:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Legalizing cannabis backfired 100% (I knew it would), so why will legalizing mushrooms be any better?
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Ran-D] 5
#26496399 - 02/21/20 03:17 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well, aren't you a positive one. What's your point here? That no one should do any research on mushrooms because you believe legalisation and decriminalisation won't happen because you believe cannabis legalisation has "backfired?" You say you're fine taking them illegally in the woods. Do you think all mushrooms on the face of the earth will disappear if they do some research? I'm sure whatever happens you'll still be able to go to your forest and eat mushrooms while complaining on something 😀 Albert Hoffmanns research was for naught? Mycologists should find something better to do? Shroomery is nonsense? And as for legalisation, there's not only the United States in the world. It's happening, but slowly. And even in the states you can buy the smoke you want in some states now, 20 years ago you'd go to prison. Or am I wrong??
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Psilosadhu] 2
#26496605 - 02/21/20 08:28 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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"Hey guys, I know how pharma has literally lobbied to keep these things illegal for decades, and all the research you guys have done until now has been at the risk of your own freedom, but if you could just go ahead and hand all that info over so we can make some money off it when it's legal that'd be grrreat."
Mushrooms only disappear due to habitat destruction, luckily Psilocybes seem to follow us regardless so I'm not worried about that. But I promise strains (yes, strain is a real term when it comes to fungi) will be patented. Cultivation will be tightly regulated and maybe more illegal than it is now.
Why, exactly, do we need some college cats to tell us all what we already know?
Sorry thinking critically offends some people. But faith that any part of the system has their heart in the right place and wants to help people is something I lack.
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Ran-D] 3
#26496628 - 02/21/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just because you know that they have medicinal benefit doesn't mean you know why they do or how it works exactly.
And more importantly, just because you have access to them doesn't mean there aren't a bunch of people out there who's lives could be positively and dramatically changed by more research, and legalization. Big Pharma funds tons of research, they're not necessarily benevolent, sure, they're in it for the money - but mushrooms are something anyone could have access to with a little research.
Sure, with progress and legalization comes hiccups and fuck ups. That's change. It's hard. Doesn't mean that we shouldn't try and move forward as a society and put some of our archaic drug laws and stigmatization behind us. That's backwards as fuck.
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: pirate-blues] 2
#26496638 - 02/21/20 08:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Full legalization with zero regulation or bust. If I can't walk into a hospital and openly hand out actual mushrooms to the dying folks then that is not progress.
I'll pass on some artificial pill form. About as useful as CBD oil from a gas station.
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pirate-blues



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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Ran-D] 2
#26496646 - 02/21/20 08:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mean...I don't think you can even walk into a hospital and give dying folks some chamomile tea, but I get what you're saying - definitely shouldn't be a classed as any kind of controlled substance. If people aren't free to grow and hunt their own then it wouldn't really be legalization imo.
At this point though any step forward is a step towards that. It'll be a fight for full legalization, and having the facts and research on our side is crucial for winning that fight imo.
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Ran-D] 1
#26496660 - 02/21/20 08:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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feevers said: because more research and decreased stigma means less people in cages
I'm all for more research and reduced stigma attached to the use of hallucinogenic mushrooms. However I'm unsure about the value of yet another anonymous survey asking whether I have seen God, Cthulhu or pink elephants skinny dipping.
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Ran-D said: I suggest the researchers go eat an 8th and sit in a dark room.
I follow you here, although an 8th might be a little short. A fifth is more like it. Like Huxley said, it would probably be good for professors and academics to actually take it, not just research second hand interpretations of these kinds of experiences. They are simply too strange to put into words. Like studying fungi through a foggy microscope lens.
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: Anglerfish]
#26496702 - 02/21/20 09:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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i wanna help but I doubt it’s possible to describe any part of a mushroom trip to someone who has never taken one. Ill try though🤷🏻♂️
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Re: Have you taken a psychedelic in a ritualistic setting in the past 6 months? [Re: feldman114]
#26496862 - 02/21/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shit changes, it’s part of life. Either get with the changes or get outa the way.. it’s the loud ones that cause problems for them selfs when it comes to this kind of stuff. Do I agree with them? Hell no but I’ll step aside and let them do their thing, the government does a great job of fucking things up on their own.
Weed is legal in Canada and there is still 1000’s of black market grows pumping out great product.. If you don’t believe me check out my posts in the dank thread.
Mushrooms are no reason to get worked up, there suppose to bring us together not rip us apart. I’ll for ever be doing my own thing, just because I don’t support the government with this kinda stuff doesn’t mean I’ll protest it lol.
I’m not trying to ruffle any feathers here just joint the discussion.
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