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WillieFunGuy
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Soaked grains not seeming to swell much
#26494928 - 02/20/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I read from a great book that I should soak 220.gms of grain ( rye berries) to 200mL of water ( converts evenly to gms. I also added a teaspoon of gypsum. The grains have swelled up to the water line but doesn’t seem to be doing much more. I expected to have a full jar or close. I may just be being impatient but I’m worried that the water is evaporating through the exchange port in the lid. Did I jump the gun by drilling my holes too soon?
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: WillieFunGuy]
#26495010 - 02/20/20 11:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Why is there an exchange port in the lid? Is that for inoculation? What boom are you reading?
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: Sockadin]
#26495403 - 02/20/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The book is the Psilocybin Mushroom Bible. Great for beginners. I actually got a grow kit from someone on IG (got lucky) and the jars he sent had an injection port and a breather for lack of a better term. And it’s actually how it’s done in the book as well. You cover the hole with a filter, tyvec for example. I just don’t know if it’s done after the soaking
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: WillieFunGuy]
#26495417 - 02/20/20 03:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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you should stop reading book and start reading teks. lots of better techniques posted and stickied at the top of the forum where the rules are
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: cronicr]
#26495521 - 02/20/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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That book is hot garbage
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: bodhisatta]
#26495553 - 02/20/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I want to read hot garbage. Guess I gonna have to look for this book, what is the title? "How to mislead people?"
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: bodhisatta]
#26495576 - 02/20/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Really? Have you read the book? I source my info from wherever I can and most of it lines up with this book with a few exceptions. Not everyone agrees in this community so that can be expected. Seems a little harsh. Can you give me an example? And can you answer the original question?
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: Sockadin]
#26495580 - 02/20/20 04:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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What’s off? The ratio? The air filter? Do you know?
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: WillieFunGuy]
#26495699 - 02/20/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Just use whatever amount of grain you want and fill it up with water. If the water level is above you have a good way of disposing floaters or other things you dont want as spawn. Add half a pot of coffee to speed up colonization. Let this soak for 24 hours then strain. Easy and well tested.
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: Mohinder]
#26495724 - 02/20/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Books get published and quickly become obsolete because the practice of growing mushrooms is constantly moving forward and evolving. That's why sites like this are more informative because we stay on top of the latest information. You said you read and followed the book, but yet...here you are
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: Tormato]
#26495741 - 02/20/20 05:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Point taken. I’m not arguing that it’s the be all end all. This site can be a little cumbersome to navigate. I still haven’t found an answer to whether or not I should have an air hole during the soaking process. Thanks for responding.
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: WillieFunGuy]
#26495747 - 02/20/20 05:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You really wanna have your jars constructed and ready before you prep grains, but you're following a manuscript that I've never followed. Just sounds like the grains soaked up all the water to me
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: Mohinder]
#26495754 - 02/20/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Interesting. Half a pot of coffee (instead of water I assume) and then pour it in a sieve to drain all the access water After 24 hrs? What about a vent in the lid? I don’t think it’s evaporating but you don’t know if you don’t ask. Thanks in advance
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: WillieFunGuy]
#26495755 - 02/20/20 06:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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People soak in open pots. A hole wouldn't change anything. Evaporation isn't that fast especially through a hole. Leave a cup of water out half full see how long it takes to evaporate a noticable amount, draw a line. The amount of soak water is pretty irrelevant just use enough is the only rule there.
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: Tormato]
#26495764 - 02/20/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks man! I think you’re right. The ratio is off probably. I think that I will conbind two jars into one and add coffee like someone suggested and wait another 24 hrs
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: bodhisatta]
#26495768 - 02/20/20 06:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Do you think it’s too late to combine 2 jars, add water, and wait another 24 hrs?
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Re: Soaked grains not seeming to swell much [Re: WillieFunGuy]
#26495772 - 02/20/20 06:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its water dude. Just cover the grain lol
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