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OfflineLosAndreas36
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My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help!
    #26493574 - 02/19/20 03:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hey guys! I have stored dried mushrooms in paper, rolled tightly, and then in airfree ziplock, in the dark, without moisture and at room temp for like 1.5-2 years. When today i opened them, they look like this -

the smell is fine, but they don't look like they a bruising, no blue at all!

but also i dont see any mold or can't smell anything funky. however what about the colour? will they be active, or they are long gone? i planed to do tea or lemon tek em. they are pretty dry. what if i stored them wrong?


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: LosAndreas36]
    #26493689 - 02/19/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

What kind of mushrooms are supposed to be in that picture?

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they don't look like they a bruising, no blue at all




Are you trying to identify them? I've read that identifying dried mushrooms with certainty is impossible. Dried mushrooms also will not bruise.

There is a safe way to identify them that doesn't require much experience or expertise. Get some agar and culture them. Then grow them. Then identify them. I haven't tried it but I believe I've read somewhere around here that you may still get active spores out of dried caps. You don't seem to have any in that picture, but you could probably swab your baggie for some spores, culture them, see what happens. You'd have to use several agar plates to isolate the mycelium that comes from it. Sounds fun, tbh.

But, if I had any doubts about what dried mushrooms I had I wouldn't eat them until I was at least 99.9% sure I knew what I had.


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: fragrantdiscipline]
    #26493695 - 02/19/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It's my own cubes, it was a strong batch, but they are 2 years old, stored in paper, and then in tight ziplock.

and im trying to figure out if i still can eat them (they could be stored not very well, but they are dry, and i don't see mold or smell anything).


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: fragrantdiscipline]
    #26493699 - 02/19/20 04:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So how they look? They are semi powdered, so i was thinking to powdered them fully to the dust, and then make tea or lemon tek out of it?


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: LosAndreas36]
    #26494041 - 02/19/20 08:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I would eat them, no question. 

I had some in the freezer for more than 2 years. And they still kicked my butt.


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: zenarrow]
    #26494287 - 02/20/20 12:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I’m not sure if I stored them properly, if I dry them additionally in warm ventilated place with some silica gel for a few hours, and then powder them (just before consuming), will it hurt? What if some moisture is present ? I can’t be sure


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: LosAndreas36]
    #26494289 - 02/20/20 12:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Those look like wood chips bro. I wouldn't eat them.

Just grow some new ones.


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: drinkkykeon]
    #26494402 - 02/20/20 04:29 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

No way i could grow mushrooms , or access them. So this is my only shot


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: LosAndreas36] * 1
    #26494413 - 02/20/20 04:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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LosAndreas36 said:
No way i could grow mushrooms , or access them. So this is my only shot




You mentioned that you can't grow new ones and if you grew them yourself and know that they used to be OK (e.g. you know for a fact that they are cubensis) to eat then I don't see an issue with you trying them again if you don't see any visible decay (e.g. mold or rot).

Very likely there will be a potency drop (hard to say how much, as it depends on many factors). I personally would not eat them dry but make tea and boil a bit longer than usual. And test the potency with known amount of shrooms - the way I see it worst that can happen is that you ould end up with very weak/complete duds (or a bit upset stomach in the worst case).


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: MrBovineJoni]
    #26494426 - 02/20/20 05:22 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

They most likely have very little actives left...
I suggest boiling them for 20 minutes...dont worry about temperature, just boil...keep it on the water thin side , not thick like honey.
Hopefully you get something outta them, good luck


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: CrystalizedFungi]
    #26494437 - 02/20/20 05:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Fuck that dood, eat them.

There will be no potency loss.

What would cause potency loss? Cold temps?


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: zenarrow]
    #26494664 - 02/20/20 08:33 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Fuck that dood, eat them.

There will be no potency loss.

What would cause potency loss? Cold temps?



Cold temperatures would help to preserve them - some people are freezing shrooms for long term storage.

Most of the potency loss is due to oxidation which happens a lot more rapidly in the presence of water or sunlight (that's why you want to dry  fresh shrooms as soon as possible).

If stored at room temperature it happens over time no matter what - even if shrooms are perfectly vacuum sealed with shitloads of dissicant packs the amount of active psilocybin and psilocin decreases. The OP did not store them perfectly - no mention of dissicant(I don't trust in ziploc bags being very airtight). Also the colour looks very off.


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: MrBovineJoni]
    #26494709 - 02/20/20 09:01 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I’m 100 sure in them, it’s my old cubes, batch was potent , and this is 2-2.5 g only left


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: MrBovineJoni]
    #26494723 - 02/20/20 09:08 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well as I stated, they are dried, I opened them up and put some silica gel there, but they are dry. Smell is okay, same as It was 2 years ago. They were stored at room temp (around 21c), in dark shelf, maybe (not sure), some air exposure could happened.  and the only thing I’m worried about is that they are more brown then 2 years ago ( I didn’t opened them for 1.5 years anyway) and that there is no bruising remained

Last time I took mushrooms, 3.5 g half year old (it was 1,5 years ago, same batch), it kicked my ass so strong. They were stored the same as those.

Well those are older and amount is less, and I don’t expect full blown hardcore trip, but mellow mushroom glow.

The pic is high resolution, and I don’t see or smell mold at all.

I wanted to try lemon tek maybe ?


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: LosAndreas36]
    #26494748 - 02/20/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Go for it if you feel like it. I'd boil them into a tea if I was you just because of the age and colour (it does look rather dark brown).

If you have had experiences with 3.5g then less than fully potent 2.5g should not be a cause of worry.


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: MrBovineJoni]
    #26496897 - 02/21/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

To be honest and this is all honest. I had a bag of shrooms that I had for nearly a decade,  kept them in the garage in a PVC pipe. Never found time to take them raising kids.
When I finally ate them, just as good as the day I first tried them.


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: zenarrow]
    #26497733 - 02/21/20 09:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

That's amazing, tbh.


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: zenarrow]
    #26499381 - 02/23/20 03:28 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Fuck that dood, eat them.

There will be no potency loss.

What would cause potency loss? Cold temps?




Yeah right there will be a massive potency loss I've had some for a less than a year sitting in a bag with a shitload of moisture absorbers and they don't look even close to as nasty as his and if I eat them these days it takes 20 grams to get to the point of what three used to do....


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: TheUltimateBohab]
    #26502602 - 02/25/20 05:30 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Well as I said half year old same batch kicked my ass so strong. And I have dosed up to 8 and more in the past.
I checked - they are dried, I’m going to powder them and make tea (how should I do it? ), or thought about lemon tek ?
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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: LosAndreas36]
    #26502667 - 02/25/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Go for tea but you don't need to pulverize them. Just break them with hands in smaller pieces - if they are still very dry it should be easy to do. Tea does not need tiny pieces and it will be a real bitch to filter out bits after.


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: MrBovineJoni]
    #26502670 - 02/25/20 07:06 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Ive been using hot coco mix with ny tea recently and it hides any mushroom flavor.

Also in my experience old shrooms tend to taste very gnarly compared to fresher ones.


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: Sofaking420]
    #26502727 - 02/25/20 08:05 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Tell me more about coco mix ?
Well basically simmer them in hot water, but not boiling ? And how long ? Also should i remove what is left, or maybe eat it ? I recall myself eating what is left, and sometimes not.

Last time I had experience with tea was years ago...

And why lemon tek is not that good idea ? I thought with that little amount, lemon tek is going to increase intensity and shorter trip (if I get any effect ).


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: LosAndreas36]
    #26502745 - 02/25/20 08:17 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

What i do. Is grind / chop shrooms, add to boiling water, let simmer for 5-10minutes remove from heat and let sit for another 30 before filtering shrooms out. Ill add a packet of Swiss miss brand coco and let er rip buddy.

Also the singles drink mix are my second go to for flavoring shroom tea.

Im not a fan of lemon tek but some people are. You could add lemon juice also with any flavoring just might taste funky.


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: Sofaking420]
    #26502989 - 02/25/20 11:21 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

thanks ! What is your experience with old mushrooms ?


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: LosAndreas36]
    #26502996 - 02/25/20 11:27 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

They taste terrible but do the job. :shrug:

Let us know how ya do


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: Sofaking420]
    #27248539 - 03/11/21 04:20 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

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They taste terrible but do the job. <img src="https://files.shroomery.org/smileys/shrug.gif" alt=":shrug:" title=":shrug:"/>

Let us know how ya do




Sorry, haven't been here for a while ) They did nothing, or it was threshold, I just felt something was coming up, but then it did not evolve into something I would call a trip. Potency was long gone.


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Re: My 2 years old shrooms, did they went bad? please help! [Re: LosAndreas36]
    #27248553 - 03/11/21 04:28 PM (2 years, 10 months ago)

That sucks, sorry for you my dude


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