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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26525708 - 03/09/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Mulholland Drive  8/10


This is one of my least favorite Lynch movies, which is I guess strange because it's the favorite of so many. It's more or less about the shortcomings and corruption in the modern film industry, and while it makes a lot of sense for someone like Lynch to make a movie about it, it doesn't really interest me too much. I will say it's still good, and this is the role which made Naomi Watts famous, for good reason. In real life, she was a struggling actress when David Lynch stumbled across her and gave her a shot, and this performance literally made her career. She was exquisite, in a very demanding part.

The movie follows a young woman who was in a mysterious car crash in which organized crime was involved, and she is the only one to survive. She is running scared, but suffers amnesia and doesn't even know who she is, or why she has a purse full of cash. Naomi Watts' character Betty, a young aspiring actress from rural Canada, takes her in and helps her to try to figure out what is going on.

Justin Theroux plays a modern director, who is being strong-armed to cast a certain girl for a certain part. This obviously really happens, and Lynch was showing his disgust here. Later on, the two women tie in with this director, and we see a young actress morph into a jaded, foul-mouthed bitch who is mad at the industry and jealous of her starlet love-interest. It's all about Hollywood.

Now, while I am the first to acknowledge all of these dysfunctions in the film business, it just doesn't really interest me as the theme for a movie, even a David Lynch movie. It's much more specific to Lynch's world than an average audience's, and while, as one might expect, the production and directing are excellent, I just find this film too specific. But anyone who wishes to chime in with an opposing perspective is welcome and encouraged.





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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26528709 - 03/11/20 08:16 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

What did Jack Do?

He voices the monkey as well.  Short film and youtube doesn't do it justice.  I just stream everything so if have it I would watch it that way. amusing, like he was talking to himself. 

On Netflix.  I have three of them.  Got rid of cable as you just pay mainly for sports and bought hd bunnyears for local t.v.  Have a great set-up here. And I pay extra for Hulu to not watch commericials.  Amazing when one doesn't see commericials for a time then one does and is offensive to the mind and one just wants to just shut it out of ones consciousness. Would recommend it. 

But it is worth watching the whole thing for a Lynch fan and I have seen all of his movies besides Eraserhead  and not all the original made for t.v. edited Twin Peaks but it got the country thinking, which is strange thinking about what network t.v. is.  How limited they were back then.  But still garbage overall with the programming.


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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: Barnaby] * 1
    #26534389 - 03/14/20 10:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Have you seen the short film on Netflix where he interrogates the monkey?

Dougie has to be one of my all-time favourite characters
But episode 8...wow.


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    #26534761 - 03/14/20 12:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah MacLachlan was great as Dougie. I'll be getting to T.P. The Return in a bit. I haven't seen any of his shorts, so if you'd like to comment on it I'd be interested. :smile:


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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26534877 - 03/14/20 01:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I recently saw the film which shares the same name as the brothel in Twin Peaks - One Eyed Jacks. Like many of Lynch's works, "...It is curiously surrounded by elements of creamed-cliché romance and a kind of pictorial extravagance..." (Bosley Crowther of The New York Times). It also shares a dreamy "skulking, scabrous" quality with Lynch's style that made me think it might belong in a thread of his films. Not to mention that David Lynch was a kind of lone cowboy purporting his own unique ideas as a director, to be facetious. Brando's later role in The Godfather shared some of the brutality of Laura's murder as well. I think these two people share more psychological aspects than I first thought.


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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: ChRnZN]
    #26534916 - 03/14/20 01:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting points. I read actually that Lynch and Brando were very well acquainted -- Brando would come to his house unannounced and help himself to whatever food Lynch had on hand. Apparently this happened somewhat regularly. Lynch said it didn't bother him so much, but that he did find it pretty peculiar. But then this fits with Brando's reputation, I suppose.


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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #26535540 - 03/14/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

And his girth.  God that man was obese.  Watching bits of his earlier films then seeing some of his later ones.  Wow.  takes a lot to crave food that much but we have to focus on addiction to "drugs". 

Sorry, he was lazy and fat.  Didn't even want to learn his lines and have people hold lines on cardboard with those written on them as he was just a fat, lazy, slob, that like Orwell just wanted to stuff his face all day and get the paycheck.

Yes I get to a degree why Lynch would find it peculiar.  Also why he can smoke like he does and live as long as he does which I am glad for.  Like Sean Penn. 

Point being Brando just didn't give a shit about anything but food.  To each their own.  R.I.P.  John Wayne lived off coffee and meat.  His colon during the autopsy was amazingly horrid. 

No judgements, just hero worshiping people is inane IMO.  I hope Lynch lives to be over a hundred.  I enjoy the majority of what he makes and researching his life it is an unique one in a good way.  Glad for people like that in the world, keeps me sane.


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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26542821 - 03/18/20 02:49 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Inland Empire  8/10


Now, I love David Lynch, and I love how far out his movies are. Indeed what I am going to review next time is the most far-out thing he ever did, and I love it. But Inland Empire is even a little much for me. It's three hours, which doesn't seem necessary. And it's extremely low-budget. And it's far out, way far out, but not so much in a way I resonate with.

The entire movie was shot on a Sony digital camcorder, with the same lens for every scene. I think Lynch was planning to go to a higher-quality camera, but found that he loved the look of the Sony for his purposes on this film. Frankly, I found it distracting at times. Now, if anyone can make an excellent movie with a $150 camcorder, it's Lynch. And the cinematography doesn't suffer. But man, it's almost like watching a VHS tape.

The movie is based on a supernatural curse of Polish gypsies that affects a particular script Laura Dern's character has been cast to act out in a major studio film. Several years earlier, two lead actors who were shooting the same script had weird things start to happen, and ultimately were murdered. The curse is back, and it's real. As I've said in previous posts, the supernatural elements in Lynch's films are my favorite part of his work. But somehow Inland Empire's supernatural theme is not as interesting or compelling as Lost Highway, Twin Peaks -- Fire Walk with Me AND The Return. All that I adore. In this movie, the action seems ponderous, disconnected and utterly impenetrable. Indeed, there is no real plot to speak of after the first thirty minutes.

As the curse unfolds things get very surreal, but the impenetrability, the camcorder and the whole atmosphere just don't agree with me very much. I gave it a little over three stars because I feel it is interesting and unique, but it just doesn't jibe with me, this one. I've seen mention of others in this thread who love this one, so if they'd like to chime in I'd love it.





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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26543074 - 03/18/20 05:05 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

My favorite of all of his.  Good choice. Two short scenes I love from the movie.





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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26557289 - 03/25/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Twin Peaks: The Return (2017) Episodes 1 and 2  10/10


David Lynch took up this project because he had a lot of ideas, wanted to work with Mark Frost again, and because Showtime gave him total creative control and the budget he wanted. It is eighteen episodes, each an hour in length -- so it is basically an eighteen hour movie. I think it is the best thing he has ever done.

I have seen it once before, so that is what I base my assessment on. Episodes one and two are presented together as a feature-length movie to get the series kicked-off. This series is the most far-out Lynch has ever gotten, and as I say he had total carte-blanche over what he wanted to do. So it is very, very good. We see some of the old faces from the original Twin Peaks, which is fun. Lynch incorporates many elements of the supernatural, including spirits, the afterlife, reincarnation, time travel and acausality, and many other elements of the beyond. I love it.

I'm not going to go too far into the plot at this point, since I have to refresh my memory. But all I can say is: Watch it!





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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26559268 - 03/26/20 02:18 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Twin Peaks: The Return Episodes 3 & 4  10/10


In this episode, we meet Dougie. As another poster has said, he is really one of the great characters I can remember. Agent Dale Cooper is ejected from the higher dimension (purgatory, heaven, whatever it is), and sent to a kind of transdimensional halfway house where we have very bizarre characters. We are led to suspect that he will replace the evil Cooper, and all will be right with the world. But some evil entity or force conspires to save the evil Cooper, and divert the real Agent Cooper into a body that has been manufactured for precisely this purpose. It is a testament to the imagination of David Lynch that he could suppose some evil higher dimensional entities could reach back in time and create Dougie Jones' whole life, just to prevent the evil Cooper from being dismissed from the Black Lodge and destroyed.

So Agent Cooper incarnates into Dougie, and must learn how to think and speak coherently, as well as how to eliminate the evil Cooper, or he himself will be permanently destroyed. Meanwhile, the evil Cooper has been apprehended by the police with cocaine and a machine gun in his trunk after a crash resulting from transdimensional phenomena, through which he was to be ejected from the Black Lodge, but was saved by the invisible forces. Agent Gordon Cole, played hilariously and well by David Lynch himself, travels to meet with this Cooper, who they think is the real Cooper. They realize something is very wrong with the manner and content of his speech. The plot develops much further, which I will continue to comment upon.


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    #26565437 - 03/29/20 02:36 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Twin Peaks: The Return Parts 5-8


I give the whole series a 10/10, for sure. In parts 5-7, we see Dougie's evolution to a great asset for his company and his family; we see the evil Cooper get out of prison and be risen from death; Gordon Cole and his team are quickly coming to the conclusion that the Cooper they have been dealing with is not the real Cooper; and things in Twin Peaks are taking a turn for the bizarre, as Deputy Chief Hawk discovers missing pages from Laura Palmer's diary, completely fulfilling the Log Lady's supernatural prophecies. I love it all.

In part 8, David Lynch outdoes himself. Armed with a budget and good special effects, he basically turns the episode into Erasherhead on acid. It's highly abstract, and definitely like nothing you've seen before. It begins with a shot (digitally recreated) of the Trinity explosion in New Mexico in July 1945, which leads the viewer on a dark odyssey through higher dimensions, different worlds, in which, among other things, Laura Palmer's soul is sent to Earth, Bob makes an appearance, and these truly menacing black beings kill off an entire town in the Southwest with a magical incantation. Great stuff!


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    #26571312 - 04/01/20 02:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Through episode 14, and there's just too much to describe. Suffice it to say that at this point, we've had two trans-dimensional portals and supernatural phenomena galore, coupled with one of the best filmmakers ever to live. Amazing!


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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #26575370 - 04/03/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I have completed the series. Absolutely wonderful; as I have said, imo this is the best thing David Lynch has ever done. To describe any events in episodes 15-18 would be to give too much away, but the poem by the one-armed man in episode 17 may provide a clue:


Through the darkness of future past,
      The magician longs to see:
One chance out between two worlds;
      Fire walk with me


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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #26575675 - 04/03/20 05:43 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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DividedQuantum said:Through the darkness of future past,
      The magician longs to see:
One chance out between two worlds;
      Fire walk with me



In my younger days when I fronted a band, we wrote a song and put these lines in it..except we also used...
I'll catch you with my death bag
You might think I've gone insane
But I promise you, I will kill again...

Thanks for not posting much about TP season 3.  It's the only thing he's done that I haven't seen


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    #26575944 - 04/03/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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Thanks for not posting much about TP season 3.  It's the only thing he's done that I haven't seen





Yeah, I had in mind the fact that a lot of people haven't seen it. Also, if you do watch it (and I urge you to), you'll find that it can't really be put into words, anyway.


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    #26576253 - 04/03/20 09:46 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah, I plan on it but you gotta pay to watch it so we're watching streaming shows and DVDs lately


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Re: A David Lynch thread [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #26589162 - 04/09/20 04:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I have completed the series. Absolutely wonderful; as I have said, imo this is the best thing David Lynch has ever done. To describe any events in episodes 15-18 would be to give too much away, but the poem by the one-armed man in episode 17 may provide a clue:


Through the darkness of future past,
      The magician longs to see:
One chance out between two worlds;
      Fire walk with me




That's from the original TV show.


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    #26589241 - 04/09/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Yes I realize that. It does have special relevance in episodes 17 and 18 of the Return, though.


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