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Tripping while Breastfeeding
    #26491797 - 02/18/20 01:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Me and a group of friends are going away for a weekend trip and some of them are talking about taking shrooms the first day we arrive. One in our group is still breastfeeding her 1,5 year old and is not sure if it is safe for her to take shrooms bc she is afraid the baby will get psilocybin through the milk...
So, I was wondering if anyone knows anything about how long psilocybin would stay in the milk if she  would take some..?
  If she takes some.. she would be taking one dose at Friday night and returning home to the child on Sunday afternoon.
Her child only breastfeeds once a day usually, and a few times at night, if that matters.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: User9]
    #26491810 - 02/18/20 01:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well it only stays in the system for a few days.

Dont they just pump and dump for alcohol? I feel that would work fine for psilocybin too.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: The Mycologist] * 2
    #26491814 - 02/18/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Let a non tripping friend try the milk first :awehigh:


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: User9]
    #26491817 - 02/18/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

kids that young shouldn't trip.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Crazy_Horse]
    #26491835 - 02/18/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You don't need exclusively breast fed diets after six months. Use formula for the following day? Seems simple enough.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: User9]
    #26491917 - 02/18/20 02:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

...is a bad idea.


Umm, hate to be judgmental here, but do not take a 1.5yo to a fucking trip party, it's just wrong.:shrug: Will there be a sober person at least? Hopefully more than one. Also, google that shit and don't tell people in a drug forum that is based on harm reduction if you don't want to be judged.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26491927 - 02/18/20 03:03 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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...is a bad idea.


Umm, hate to be judgmental here, but do not take a 1.5yo to a fucking trip party, it's just wrong.:shrug: Will there be a sober person at least? Hopefully more than one. Also, google that shit and don't tell people in a drug forum that is based on harm reduction if you don't want to be judged.





Seems like mom is going away for the weekend without the child, and she's concerned about breastfeeding on her return a couple days later.



It only stays in your urine and blood for around 24 hours, so I would assume she'd be good to pump and dump and would be fine by Sunday :shrug:.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: pirate-blues] * 1
    #26491971 - 02/18/20 03:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Ah, ok. Great to be concerned about that!


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26492913 - 02/19/20 07:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

There isn't normally much data on the safety of stuff while breastfeeding since it's not something that can be tested without risk (well they might be able to test the milk depending on the substance).

Generally the advice is "don't do that".

Normally the only evidence is drugs that are necessary for the mother, addicts who don't care, or stuff from before people realized it was an issue.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: User9]
    #26492922 - 02/19/20 07:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Considering the psychedelics end up in the breast milk, she can get high on her own supply :awesome:

Seriously, breastfeeding a baby on drugs (sorry to call shrooms "on drugs", it is) is out and itsa not recommended to psychologically expose a baby to the dysfunctional mayhem of a room of tripping adults.

Even cats pick it up.

Bad idea.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Asante]
    #26492937 - 02/19/20 07:29 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

My mom tripped on cid, shrooms, shot up H and enough coke to kill a water buffalo when she was pregnant with me. I turned out fine.......wait a min!....that bitch


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Asante]
    #26492946 - 02/19/20 07:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Considering the psychedelics end up in the breast milk, she can get high on her own supply :awesome:

Seriously, breastfeeding a baby on drugs (sorry to call shrooms "on drugs", it is) is out and itsa not recommended to psychologically expose a baby to the dysfunctional mayhem of a room of tripping adults.

Even cats pick it up.

Bad idea.






The baby will not be anywhere near the mother while she is tripping since she will be away for that weekend and  the baby has a babysitter at home. If the mother takes shrooms at all, it will be on Friday night  and she will return home to the baby at Sunday afternoon


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: User9]
    #26492971 - 02/19/20 07:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Powerful mind altering drugs and developing brains do not mix.

And the younger that brain, the more urgent that they don't mix.

Think of an underaged brain :underageban: like a sapling tree. If it gets damaged before the building plan of the mature tree has rolled out, then every part of the tree that should grow beyond the point of the damage will end up gimped or nonexistent.
With an adult tree, go right ahead, the popcorn kernel has popped, the flower opened, the tree has grown, but with a sapling, no take extra care because consequences will magnify as the building plan rolls out.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Asante]
    #26493038 - 02/19/20 08:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Powerful mind altering drugs and developing brains do not mix.

And the younger that brain, the more urgent that they don't mix.

Think of an underaged brain :underageban: like a sapling tree. If it gets damaged before the building plan of the mature tree has rolled out, then every part of the tree that should grow beyond the point of the damage will end up gimped or nonexistent.
With an adult tree, go right ahead, the popcorn kernel has popped, the flower opened, the tree has grown, but with a sapling, no take extra care because consequences will magnify as the building plan rolls out.





I agree with you absolutely. And the woman I’m talking about is worried about the same stuff. Therefore the question is, will the substance even be in the breast milk after 41+ hours of consuming the shrooms?


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: User9]
    #26493072 - 02/19/20 09:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Why risk it? She should wait a few years until she is not breastfeeding. Why risk it???!!! Mushrooms will always be there.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26493083 - 02/19/20 09:17 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Agree that there is no reason to risk it, although I think the risk is low.
But what the hell is wrong with being with your kid while tripping? I think it's far harder for the kid if she were drunk.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Dekozn] * 1
    #26493113 - 02/19/20 09:37 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I just don't like it. Too many things can go wrong. I have no kids, but I have seen/heard horror stories of people that thought it would be OK to do so, it wasn't. Why risk the child's safety AT ALL??!! When a persona has children they should give up EVERY single thing about partying until the kids are a certain age. You give up part of your life when you have kids, that's the way I feel/see it. I was brought up in a dysfunctional atmosphere and wouldn't wish that on anyone.

The drugs will be there later, they will always be there. Imagine the person worrying the whole time they are tripping about "will this be in my babies milk? OMG!!!" could cause a bad trip and unneeded anxiety. WHY THE FUCK RISK IT if it can be completely avoided due to some selfishness? You become selfless and give up things as a parent. If you don't, then don't have kids. I am very opinionated on this subject as you can see.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Dekozn]
    #26493539 - 02/19/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Why risk it? She should wait a few years until she is not breastfeeding. Why risk it???!!! Mushrooms will always be there.




Yes this is true. I doubt she will even do it .. the only reason she even considered it was because her best friend is trying for the first time on this trip and the friend wanted her to join for this special occasion.
If it weren’t for this, the thought of even consider taking shrooms wouldn’t have crossed her mind, I know her well enough to know this.
She is a very responsible and a great mom.
But I thought I would ask, if it were known to not be any risk for contaminated milk after 36-45 hours after consuming it I would have told her to enjoy herself but i guess I won’t be doing that now.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Dekozn]
    #26493553 - 02/19/20 02:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Agree that there is no reason to risk it, although I think the risk is low.
But what the hell is wrong with being with your kid while tripping? I think it's far harder for the kid if she were drunk.




Children is especially sensitive to body language and communication,And  they will notice any slight change in people affected by any substance alcohol or drugs... and this will undoubtedly make the child feel uncomfortable, unsafe and/ or scared .. and what’s the point in that?

And if you where talking about the mom that I’m referring to, then again, she will not be anywhere near the kid IF she were to take anything.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: User9]
    #26494554 - 02/20/20 07:28 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Plus 1 user9, sounds like you people have a tight grip on the reality of the situation. :heart:


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: User9]
    #26494849 - 02/20/20 10:23 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

no its not okay wait 2 days after taking the mushrooms to breastfeed again and get rid of the first pump before giving your kid your milk



or be a mother and sacrifice taking them for the safety of your child,


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26494866 - 02/20/20 10:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

My grandmother was real bad with her fetuses. She smoked through all her pregnancies and took oldschool anti nausea meds which were later found to highly risk deforming the babe's. Babe's are all in their 50-60's now. Still don't know if they're fucked. Keeping an eye on it all, will update if anything changes.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: trees]
    #26494872 - 02/20/20 10:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Honestly I doubt that residual psilocybin would negatively affect a child if they are in the embrace of a loving mother

I’m an insane hippy wizard tho :justdontknow:


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: User9]
    #26494987 - 02/20/20 11:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Just use the bottle a few more days if you are worried.

1,5 years? About time they stopped breastfeeding anyway

My eldest was a breast junkie that we had to taper off slowly around 2 years, but my youngest was like done after 14 months or so. Quit all by herself too :grin:


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Tripsurfer]
    #26495050 - 02/20/20 12:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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1,5 years? About time they stopped breastfeeding anyway




I'm confused. Does this mean one, or five years? Or what?:smirk:

Or did you mean 1.5 years?:smirk:


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: User9]
    #26495065 - 02/20/20 12:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Agree that there is no reason to risk it, although I think the risk is low.
But what the hell is wrong with being with your kid while tripping? I think it's far harder for the kid if she were drunk.




Children is especially sensitive to body language and communication,And  they will notice any slight change in people affected by any substance alcohol or drugs... and this will undoubtedly make the child feel uncomfortable, unsafe and/ or scared .. and what’s the point in that?

And if you where talking about the mom that I’m referring to, then again, she will not be anywhere near the kid IF she were to take anything.



I was talking in general and I not saying one should take a heroic dose and be the whole time with the kid. But when yoy have experience with shrooms and your partner is sober I don't think it'll have a bad influence on the kid.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Dekozn]
    #26495098 - 02/20/20 12:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Kids pick up on things parents and others aren't aware of, they will know something is up, but maybe not exactly what.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26495150 - 02/20/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So, parents gonna be angry, frustrated,  sad etc... Kids gonne pick up that also doesn't mean it's necessarily bad.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Dekozn]
    #26495153 - 02/20/20 01:03 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

There's some things a parent can't avoid, but tripping on any substance or getting inebriated is totally under the parents control, no comparison really.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26495175 - 02/20/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Doesn't matter if they can't avoid it or not. Holding your child while on shrooms can definitely have a positive effect on both child and parrent(s).
But I feel like I m derailing the thread.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Dekozn]
    #26495213 - 02/20/20 01:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I disagree, but I can see your point.


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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26495458 - 02/20/20 03:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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1,5 years? About time they stopped breastfeeding anyway




I'm confused. Does this mean one, or five years? Or what?:smirk:

Or did you mean 1.5 years?:smirk:





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I just wanted to complain about my Faroese keyboard settings and accidentally picked a side in the discussion (the wrong side apparently)

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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: Tripsurfer] * 1
    #26495483 - 02/20/20 03:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Tripping while Breastfeeding [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26495581 - 02/20/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

look its only breast milk and i advise to do what she thinks best which is breastfeeding.

why not.
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