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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Babylon]
    #26592663 - 04/11/20 03:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I have that exact dehydrator,  I haven't used it for shrooms yet but I have used it to make dried pears, you do indeed take off any of the shelves that you are not using.  I don't remember mine having a large round plastic rubber thing though.




Thanks for posting that. I would have to assume that if its working for dried pears, shrooms should be right up its alley. I was waffling about buying a new one from Walmart or Home Depot tomorrow, but if you have used my same unit before for drying fruit, that's certainly good enough for me.

I'm probably going to wait until tomorrow to start drying. I'm going to trip today at some point, probably early and likely very soon. it's a little after 5:30AM and I may dose right before sunrise and get on my bicycle. Or I may dose part-way through a ride. Or I may just dose at home and decide if I want to ride a little into the trip. Funny, because 3 days ago, when I first started unexpectedly harvesting, since I thought I was at least a week away at that point, I assumed that I was only going to get like 30'sh grams of fresh because a very small amount of shrooms were ready...and I was like REALLY trying to be patient. But in the past three days, in total, I ended up with 286.3 grams. Honestly, I couldn't be happier with this n00b grow so far! I mean, only 8 of my 24 cakes have had their first flush, and I'm just over a pound. I think Sockadin was right when he said that by the end of all this, I will likely be swimming in shrooms! lol

So I will put aside all the "fresh" I intend to consume in the next week or so and dry everything else tomorrow.

See pics below:

I started harvesting the evening of April 8th, and also picked a bunch on the 9th, and did two harvests yesterday. I asked this before, but just to confirm so I get no spoilage, drying tomorrow should be fine, right? That would mean that I started drying within 4 days of the first picking, 3 days after the second picking, and 2 days after the third. My understanding is that in the fridge, fresh picked shrooms are good for about a week? So I should be well within that tomorrow.

Also, and I really should have asked before I did it, but I have all the containers below a little light misting of water. I figure a few days won't be enough to get mildew, especially in the fridge, and my thinking was that even picked, technically these little guys are still growing, at least minimally? Was that all right to do?

Also, look at the third pic. I intend to eat those with the dose I take. I am keeping today's dose very small. So even if those Barbie Dream Shrooms and what look like aborts to me in that pic are very potent, I should be still within a light dose. I assume I should eat those little guys, too, right?






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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26592694 - 04/11/20 04:13 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Mateah, I'm sorry, I meant to reply to several of your highly detailed posts, but I got so caught up in all the harvesting, refrigerating, logging, and such that it fell by the wayside. Also, yesterday was my birthday, and I decided to make myself a Quarantine Birthday cake lol. Which, by the way, took several hours in total. I love to cook, but when it comes to baking cakes, decorating them, and working with frosting...well, let's just say I am not quite as much of a n00b as I am with growing mushrooms, but I am pretty n00bish, so lol there you have it.

Anyway, my response to you, after reading all of your detailed information is actually quite simple. I think you are providing great information for someone who is an aspiring mycologist. And on the intellectual level, I love reading your posts, the immense content, and have gotten used to your stream-of-consciousness posting style. But, I think you may be talking to the wrong guy with regard to your advice, at least right now. Your posts are probably aimed at people who want to be hobbyists or maybe even do this professionally.

What I think you may be missing about me, though, is that I am not that guy. I'm not a hobbyist or a grower. I just wanted some shrooms, and I hate buying hallucinogens off the street, because you never really know what the hell you're getting. I have no intention of EVER selling anything, given the draconian drug laws in America. I can't even imagine what the hell I am going to do with the...well, God only knows how many shrooms I am going to yield with these 24 cakes. Especially when you consider that only 8 of them were harvest-ready, and I am only going to start the second flush on those 8 today. It isn't that I don't think your advice is good or relevant. It clearly is. I just think that, if the initial harvest on those first 8 cakes are any indication, I am already going to have far more shrooms than I know what to do with. I will probably harvest more than a year's worth when all is said and done, at least assuming that my second flush on the 8 cakes and the first flush on my other 16 cakes don't go down in flames, of course! lol


All that said, to break the tension a little, here are some pics of the other work I did yesterday. Off topic and not shroom related, but what the hell, right? Its the weekend and I am about to chow down on a little under 20 grams of fresh!







Edited by LSA Woodrose (04/11/20 04:14 AM)

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
    #26592735 - 04/11/20 04:58 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Am I missing the fruit in your fruit formation?

I see some Knott's and pins, but I am missing how those are better than any other mushrooms. Also your not using a isolate or clone so there is no control.

I get what your saying Meteah but I think you missed the opportunity to prove your point.

I'm sure Elon Musk felt this way when he made the first Tesla but what ever. Cool pins bro.



Fuck man what is fruit formation if it isn't knots and pins ?

Also, you pretty much look like a fucking dick that entire last page.

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26592747 - 04/11/20 05:05 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Also, you pretty much look like a fucking dick that entire last page.




Maybe, but you can't ban him. I forbid it. He is helping me out waaaay too much, and has been patiently answering all my questions. :laugh:


Edit:
by the way, I just ate this guy about 10 minutes ago. I am assuming all that greenish color is just bruising? I also noticed that the inside of the stem was greenish too. lol Should I induce vomiting?


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #26592828 - 04/11/20 06:43 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah I probably did Bod, sorry I was in a bad mood last night. My apologies to everyone.

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
    #26593030 - 04/11/20 09:12 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Yeah I probably did Bod, sorry I was in a bad mood last night. My apologies to everyone.




I can’t speak for anybody else, brother. Obviously I have absolutely no enforcement power in this forum, not even in my thread LOL but for me I say don’t sweat it. Shit, I’m from Brooklyn. The argument over the last couple of pages? That’s the way me and my friends talk to each other.

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26593301 - 04/11/20 11:30 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Haha. Well again I apologize directly to Meteah and everyone else. Not the first time won't be the last and I seriously doubt anyone is gonna get banned for that little spat. I will do my best just keep my opinions to myself.

Have fun on your trip woodrose!

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
    #26593624 - 04/11/20 02:16 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I will do my best just keep my opinions to myself.




Don't do that, man. Many of the questions I have asked you, for instance, were directly soliciting your opinions; and everyone else's as well. I like reading the opinions and discourse of people who are far more knowledgeable than I am about a given topic. That's not a criticism, but I would rather someone give me an honest opinion, even in criticism, than to hold back because technically I didn't solicit an opinion from them. That's not discourse, its whitewashed censorship when people are afraid to share their ideas for fear that they may hurt someone's feelings.

If I had to guess, by the way, I would bet money that after it was all said and done, and and you and Mateah reached a sort of meeting of the minds, that he wasn't offended at all.

By the way, regardless of the temperature of the argument, I learned a lot from the both of you.

Just saying.

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Have fun on your trip woodrose!





I did, thanks! It was very mild, as expected, and I was just short of that threshold of colorful because the dose was so low. But that is precisely what I was expecting. I ate the 16.8 gram piece I posted a pic of. About an hour and change later, I said, "Hey, why not?" and ate another 5.3 gram mushroom.

Not a trip report, but I have to once again, as I have done MANY TIMES in this forum, extol the virtues of fasting before a trip. I usually like to go 12-16 hours without food before taking any form of hallucinogen, but this time I just did about 11 hours. So, in total, I had 22 grams. Both doses I chewed it to the consistency of baby food before swallowing it. No nausea, cramps, or upset stomach. Then again, I wasn't expecting it with the fasting.

I'll probably wait about a week and then try starting out with 22 right out of the gate, with another 5 grams in the chute like I had today, just in case.

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Babylon] * 1
    #26594020 - 04/11/20 06:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Looks like he grew more than he expected, which is a great outcome.




Unexpected sucess is the best kind of sucess :yesnod:

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26594135 - 04/11/20 07:35 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

How long do I leave fresh shrooms in an electric dehydrator? The one I posted on a previous page has only an on/off button. Anyway, since I wasn't sure, I hedged my bet. I only put about 95 grams fresh on there about three hours ago, and DAMN this thing gets hot. I figure even if I destroy these shrooms I only lose about 1/3 of my yield to date. lol Plus sooooo much more seems to be on the way.

I think someone said 24 hours on an electric dehydrator? But what about the different sizes? There are some that are litte bigger than a grain of rice and some that are like little shroom lollypops. Is it around the same size even for the little mini-shrooms that fell off the cakes, only a little bigger than a grain of rice as it is for the ones with the 2+ inch stems and like 1 to 2 inch diameter caps?

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26594177 - 04/11/20 08:09 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

About 24 hrs. If you open the dehydrator and they break apart when you apply a little pressure then they are dry. ..

I run mine at about 125f. Most people recommend the max setting.

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
    #26594204 - 04/11/20 08:23 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:


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    #26594240 - 04/11/20 08:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
    #26594404 - 04/11/20 09:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

:whathesaid:
LSA, did you end up eating those freshies today as planned??

If so, how was your journey??

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: woofwoof]
    #26595106 - 04/12/20 06:13 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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LSA, did you end up eating those freshies today as planned??

If so, how was your journey??





It was fun and very heady and intellectual. Some concepts and ideological ideas that I have been pondering came right to the surface, and became so clear and focused it kind of blew me away. The trip was very mild, as I expected with such a small dose, but I wanted my first time taking mushrooms in decades to be very, very conservative.

A few comments:

First, I took that 16.8 gram shroom. I ended up taking another mushroom that was 5.3 grams about an hour later, which I also expected to do. So my total dose was 22.1 grams of fresh. Because the dosing was low, I was able to actually walk away, post-trip with a lot of the profound ideas that presented and articulated themselves to me fully intact. Which, in the past, like in my teens and twenties, usually didn't happen because when the trip was over, it was hard to remember accurate details.

Second, for several reasons, I have to say at this point that I like shrooms a helluva lot more than I do the LSA from Woodrose or Morning Glory seeds. I noticed that the trip from shrooms is a lot smoother and warmer. More emotionally forgiving. LSA, since I started taking it again a few months ago, tends to lead me into a sort of coldly introspective headspace, where its hard to shut it off. Not the trip, but sometimes when I trip on LSA, I find that the "introspection" is a little too relentless. Meaning, after I have been trapped in some headspace rabbit-hole of the trip trying to give me that "tough love" we have all come to expect, at some point, on my last LSA trip, and several others, I remember not being upset or scared, but I actually looked up (old habit from my youthful Catholic days, I suppose lol) and rolled my eyes at the universe and the trip, and said. "Jeeze, bitch, enough! I get it, I get it, you're telling me all the things wrong with me. Either move on to some other shit I don't like about me or give me something more pleasant to think about. Douchebag."

Literally, those were my words. Made me feel better, of course. Was even a bit funny. But LSA is relentless and even a little nasty and obnoxious, in a way that the shrooms simply aren't.

I know this is going to sound weird, but the best way I can describe my experience yesterday was to say that LSA is rude, abrasive, a little overbearing, like that unrelenting friend or relative that never shuts the hell up, and LSA can even be a little insulting.

The shrooms were introspective and sometimes insistent, but not overbearing or obnoxious. It was a lot easier to get what the trip was telling me and to sort of change the page to something else when I got what was being told to me. In a way, its almost like LSA is too fucking repetitive and unyielding, to the point where its almost boring...though, that's the wrong word. Shrooms seemed to allow me to drive a little more, instead of being nothing but a passenger while it drove everything. Shrooms were introspective, but allowed me a lot more freedom to mold the trip a little. Not completely, of course. It doesn't work that way, as we all know. But there was a lot more compromise and room for my input, and the shroom trip allowed more freedom. In short, shrooms seem a helluva lot more polite and warm than LSA. Not disparaging LSA, but I think I like the shrooms better.

Also, here's another thing, a more sensitive topic. LSA completely shuts down my libido. It makes me completely uninterested in sex. Not necessarily that the parts don't work, but that I don't really care. Its obnoxious, because one of the things I remember from my twenties and teens was that, while my mind is not dominated by sexual thoughts during a trip, far from it, in fact. If I wanted to go there, if I was with something I was at least attracted to, sex was always absolutely mind-blowing. I even dubbed it "Hallucinogenic sex" because it was so powerful. It was literally the ultimate amalgamation of the primal and the spiritual, the sacred and the profane. But I was worried that maybe because I am older, that my sex drive isn't what it used to be? It was definitely a concern.

Thankfully, shrooms did NOT shut down my libido. So there's that.

I was literally on the threshold of "colorful" but not actual trails or visuals. I realized that the second 5.3 dose didn't actually add to the intensity of the trip, which was fine, but instead it extended the time a little.

Next trip, in about a week, I am going to move up a little in dosage and start with about 22 grams of fresh, with 2 doses of 5 grams each in the shoot. Meaning, if I want more after an hour or so, I will take 5 grams, then if I want more after that, the other 5 an hour later. I have the feeling that if I wait long enough before dosing again, that I may get the visuals by going up 5 grams from the 17ish grams. If that doesn't produce a little visuals and "graphics" when I close my eyes, then I will go up a little more the following week.

Eventually, I'll find my sweet spot.

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26595333 - 04/12/20 09:23 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I forgot to ask this yesterday, but is it possible to dry mushrooms too much? Particularly regarding the constancy of heat from the dehydrator. I read online the other day, and if I remember correctly, this model and others like it with only one setting, go at 173 degrees. That seems like an awful lot of heat for such an extended period of time.

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26595344 - 04/12/20 09:29 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

No they can't be over dried. 170F is gentile

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26595348 - 04/12/20 09:30 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

suspend your disbelief mang. i dry mushrooms 24hrs at 180+

were you worried about shrooms and sex drive? mushrooms can send me into sexual frenzies.

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26595386 - 04/12/20 09:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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No they can't be over dried. 170F is gentile




Excellent! I was hoping you were going to say that. Because they seem to be almost dry, if not dry. But 24 hours is lsn’t for another 6+ hours, and I was thinking maybe just to be safe I’m better off waiting the full 24 hours, which based on what you just said is what I’m going to do.

LMAO mushboy.  😁  No disbelieve here, I was just asking a question.

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26595710 - 04/12/20 12:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Cool to read about your experiences. Yeah I prefer 3-4 grams dried. But the thing is every mushroom has a different potency. So I have eaten 2 gram capsules that sent me to the moon. An do have eat 4 grams dry and had a nice calm time.

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