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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 1
#26582592 - 04/06/20 07:52 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sometimes smaller means higher overall yield.i just pulled about 245 grams (guessing) off a shoebox. I ate one and now my mouth feels funny. Damn I miss shrooms.

Edit: 252 grams wet.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
#26582614 - 04/06/20 08:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: Sometimes smaller means higher overall yield.i just pulled about 245 grams (guessing) off a shoebox. I ate one and now my mouth feels funny. Damn I miss shrooms.

Geez dude! Thanks now I got a serious case of mushroom envy. Seriously, great pic, man. I’m assuming you got a huge yield like that because you used a tech that’s more advanced? But seriously, brother, amazing job! I won’t lie I’m really impressed. For the record, I generally leave pictures out of my quotes when I respond to a post. But I just didn’t have the heart to in this case!
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 1
#26582624 - 04/06/20 08:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the props. I don't know that I really follow teks anymore. Just 1qrt of spawn to 1 qrt if straight coir. Oats to be more specific about the spawn.
Honestly I'm a lazy grower after I get clean agar to grain. It will probably Trich out before flush number 2.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
#26582964 - 04/06/20 10:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay, I'm thinking this can't be good. I just noticed one of my Costa Rico cakes had a greenish tint when I was spraying my cakes. This looks really nasty to me. I took it out of the SGFC immediately when I noticed it, and its in my kitchen now. So until and unless you guys tell me otherwise, I am going to keep this cake isolated. Unless you guys tell me I should take it a step further and dump it?
Edit: Okay, so I did a search on this and went to a few sites. The pics others posted looked a lot like mine, and they were all saying this is some kind of "bruising." Although, they didn't seem to be able to agree, on any site, whether it was due to not enough misting/water or some other physical trauma. I can't imagine its dehydration in my case, as others there suggested. If anything, I over-mist, or at least I did until Mateah suggested not to yesterday.
Anyway, I don't want to take any chances for one cake. So I am going to keep it in the kitchen until you guys give me the okay to put it back into the SGFC.
Edit2: Oops, forgot the pics lol!

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 1
#26583211 - 04/07/20 03:38 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yeah just bruising. If it looks powdery or raised white that is turning green I would worry. But it looks like bruising. Cakes and mushrooms can bruise green or blue or purple.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
#26583274 - 04/07/20 05:06 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: Yeah just bruising. If it looks powdery or raised white that is turning green I would worry. But it looks like bruising. Cakes and mushrooms can bruise green or blue or purple.
Awesome thanks!
I have to work out and do a few things, but in an hour or two I’m going to take and post a picture of two of the cakes that seem to be going heavy today. Even though the shrooms are very, very small, they’re almost looking like for mushrooms, at least to my untrained eyes. You might tell me I should pick them and put them aside for when I have enough for a lowish dose, which I will if you guys suggest that. Or I’ll wait to pick them if you say that would be best.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26583343 - 04/07/20 06:52 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Okay, so to my admittedly untrained eyes, these look really small. When I think of shrooms, I picture those massive, flat, top-split caps. But from what I have read is it correct to assume that not all mushrooms grow to that stereotypical size?
Maybe the ones in these pics are done developing? I kind of hope not, because I would like to see them get much bigger, but if its time to pick and set aside, then so be it.
Oh and don't get too excited lol. The pics of these two cakes are the most developed of the current 20 in my SGFC. Most of the cakes are either not pinning at all yet or if they are, they are much less evolved than these two.

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 1
#26583356 - 04/07/20 07:02 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not yet. They are still growing.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
#26583358 - 04/07/20 07:05 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: Not yet. They are still growing.
That's what I wanted to hear!
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] 1
#26583365 - 04/07/20 07:18 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Nice you have shrooms growing there!!!! Nice work!
That is the benefit of cloning, you can take the best looking one, size wise, or some other cool trait you like and clone it so your flush is consistent with those desired traits.
Multispore, using a syringe or print, your gunna a mixture of genetics, different sized fruits, some growing faster than others, but thats why its called MULTIspore, multi or multiple different genetics; traits.
Congrats man!
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: woofwoof]
#26583373 - 04/07/20 07:26 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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woofwoof said: Nice you have shrooms growing there!!!! Nice work!
That is the benefit of cloning, you can take the best looking one, size wise, or some other cool trait you like and clone it so your flush is consistent with those desired traits.
Multispore, using a syringe or print, your gunna a mixture of genetics, different sized fruits, some growing faster than others, but thats why its called MULTIspore, multi or multiple different genetics; traits.
Congrats man!
Thank you!!!
I totally agree with all of this. And I promise that if I get past the stage where lol I just want to grow a bunch of shrooms for myself, and I start to become a hobbyist, I will definitely go the cloning route for purity. I suppose its analogous to canine hobbyists and trainers and enthusiast pet owners who cherish the pure breeds. For most people, any old breed and mutt would work, just so long as its a lovable, loyal pet. I think I'm at the "I'm perfectly fine with a mutt" stage at the moment.
Although, I will say this. If this grow with all 24 cakes yields vastly inconsistent and inconvenient results, then I may see the MS syringes as untenable, and I think I would start cloning and creating my own syringes to get a more consistent yield from all my cakes. So there's that. I mean, the convenience of just ordering a couple of syringes is really attractive to me right now. And if I order as I did last time, from that awesome site sponsor that gives you a freebie when you order one at full price, I only have to pay for one.
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#26583414 - 04/07/20 08:02 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Clones is less like purebred and more like inbred.
Yeah technically you have everything you need to make a new spore syringe yourself. Just needs maybe some distilled water and a shot glass.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
#26583535 - 04/07/20 09:24 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: Clones is less like purebred and more like inbred.
Yeah technically you have everything you need to make a new spore syringe yourself. Just needs maybe some distilled water and a shot glass.
Well that sounds pretty easy!! I will look around the forum, and if its a quick and not involved process, it may be better than ordering another 2 MS syringes from that site sponsor that shall remain nameless. You probably gave me one already, but in case I have trouble finding the info, do you happen to have a link to thread(s) on spore syringe creation?
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26583577 - 04/07/20 09:42 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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The print thread is on the previous page. I will find a good Syringe link.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26583590 - 04/07/20 09:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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woofwoof said: Nice you have shrooms growing there!!!! Nice work!
That is the benefit of cloning, you can take the best looking one, size wise, or some other cool trait you like and clone it so your flush is consistent with those desired traits.
Multispore, using a syringe or print, your gunna a mixture of genetics, different sized fruits, some growing faster than others, but thats why its called MULTIspore, multi or multiple different genetics; traits.
Congrats man!
Thank you!!!
I totally agree with all of this. And I promise that if I get past the stage where lol I just want to grow a bunch of shrooms for myself, and I start to become a hobbyist, I will definitely go the cloning route for purity. I suppose its analogous to canine hobbyists and trainers and enthusiast pet owners who cherish the pure breeds. For most people, any old breed and mutt would work, just so long as its a lovable, loyal pet. I think I'm at the "I'm perfectly fine with a mutt" stage at the moment.
Although, I will say this. If this grow with all 24 cakes yields vastly inconsistent and inconvenient results, then I may see the MS syringes as untenable, and I think I would start cloning and creating my own syringes to get a more consistent yield from all my cakes. So there's that. I mean, the convenience of just ordering a couple of syringes is really attractive to me right now. And if I order as I did last time, from that awesome site sponsor that gives you a freebie when you order one at full price, I only have to pay for one.
Unfortunately agar doesn't go into a syringe too well unless you get into LI or LC. I think some folks use an agar wedge to inoculate BRF cakes, but you'd have to find the tek, because it has to get in there underneath the vermiculite barrier.
The results you are getting look pretty typical for a PF grow, if they aren't consistent or large enough for you then it might be worth considering branching out, of course you wont know until the GT has fruited. Definitely might be worth saving some spore prints in case you do decide to get into agar, that way you don't have to buy new ones and the ones you have will be from mushrooms that you know what they grow like. I haven't done spore printing yet but it looks really simple, basically just set a cap on tinfoil and let it sit there for a day.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
#26583618 - 04/07/20 10:03 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Sockadin said: The print thread is on the previous page. I will find a good Syringe link.
Cool, I just went back to the previous page. I knew you posted it somewhere at some point, so I hated to ask you again, lol, but I found it easily and opened up tabs to both links. I will read up later. Right now, its an absolutely gorgeous Spring day, and I can feel the road calling to me. So, I'm heading out for a bicycle ride around the currently deserted Big Apple and I will read up on all this later on. Thanks!
Babylon, I agree on all points. As long as its not a huge project, which it certainly seems like it is not, I will do it. I mean, not even just to save the twenty dollars or so, but as you said to know what I am growing exactly. I will probably try to make MS syringes out of both the Golden Teacher and the Costa Rico harvest.
As you suggest, I will definitely consider branching out if I'm not happy with the results of this grow. However, and correct me if I'm wrong here, with 24 cakes in total, and so far all of them viable, albeit most are going slowly, I am still thinking that even if PF Tek doesn't have the same raw yields as other teks, such as HC, bulk substrates, shoeboxes, etc., even this one crop will more than likely meet literally ALL my needs regardless, when all is said and done. I have no intention of selling shrooms, and I mean ever. The last thing I want os to have any possibility of a run-in with the DEA.
So since I am growing only for personal use, my hypothesis, which I hope is correct, is that what would be considered perhaps a terrible or low yield to experienced growers, may indeed seem like a bountiful harvest to me. Especially if I get more than one or two good flushes.
By the way! What's with the two of your forum names being all cool and colorful? I like it.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26583737 - 04/07/20 10:59 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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They're giving away free supporter accounts to help folks enjoy staying home for Covid, supporter account comes with the ability to make your name all pretty.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26581958/an/83/gonew/1#UNREAD
is the thread where I found that out, it's stickied at the top of all the boards at the moment.
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Babylon] 1
#26584428 - 04/07/20 04:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just scroll through this user's all in one link list, should be most anything you need to find,
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=24297804&page=0&vc=1#24297804
And this is an unmodified monotub Tek with coco coir bricks, if you can find the specified 54qt tub at Walmart and follow directions exactly I think results speak for themselves.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22337800
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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Demetrius18]
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#26586727 - 04/08/20 04:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks for the links and info everyone!
I took a bunch of pics I will post a little later, but in the meantime, is this a problem? The bottom of the protruding stem looks like it may be green mold?
BY the way, I REALLY hope not. That is the only Golden Teacher cake to show anything more than a miniscule pin. Although my Costa Rico cakes have started really going. At least the ones that went in last week. Anyway, is this a problem? If so, what do I do about it?
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