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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
    #26549552 - 03/21/20 07:19 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Holy f*ck quick response, my friend, thanks!

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Cool SGFC. Yeah you can just use a little duct tape if your worried about them cracking more. In between the holes. Don't cover holes. I don't know if you did this but next time get a torch and get the drill bit red hot and drill in reverse. Helps to prevent cracking and will minimize all those little shavings.

Yes you can sand the holes down. Ain't like we got anything better to do right now. Also remember 5 inches of perilite for that size container is a minimum.




I will sand it a little then, thanks! Also, the cracks only happened in moments when I was impatient and pushed the drill too hard. I definitely won't cover the holes, though, no worries there. By the way, the only reason I would sand is to make the whole surface smooth. I checked and all the holes are 1/4" so the rough shavings aren't actually covering any holes. They just annoy me. Ha!

Totally agree about the 5 inches of Perlite. I made sure to buy a nice, big 2 Cubic foot bag, so I should have more than enough.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26549554 - 03/21/20 07:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You have what 2-3 weeks left till your ready for fruiting?


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
    #26549556 - 03/21/20 07:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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You have what 2-3 weeks left till your ready for fruiting?




I would say that's about right. The two week mark after inoculation was yesterday.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26550771 - 03/22/20 11:23 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Hey everyone, just a semi-related side question. Even though I am  waiting for colonizing right now, I am looking ahead to my next grow. I have read truly amazing things about the Penis Envy Strains, but there seem to be mixed opinions as to whether or not PE will grow and fruit properly with Pf Tek. Is this true? There also seems to be different strains or sub-strains with Penis Envy. Anyway, can someone clear this up for me? No hurry, of course, as I have probably another 2-3 weeks for full colonizing, plus however long it takes to fruit and harvest, plus however many flushes I end up getting with this grow.

All assuming this grow works out properly, of course! :mushroom2:

I would imagine that I wouldn't even be ready to start another Pf Tek from scratch for at least a few months, maybe well into the summer? But PE really has my curiosity peaked.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26550982 - 03/22/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Heyo, been following this thread a while

a suggestion

You can always fill in your spare time of waiting on fruits, by making LCs with left over mason jars to help cut down your waiting between batches, that way youve a lot more material to use when you make your next substrates, keeping it flowing. Evenutally you'll be itching on when your next jar will be freed up or other container. (recently Ive started picking up oven bags as a fast and cheap alternative since you should be able to get more than one use out of them apart from easy bulk preping)

As someone who hasnt grown PE, ive noticed that the only difference is in what other cultivars mention, but a "cube is a cube" is the usual saying around here? But I would hope that Im unread about the contrast of subspecies when compared


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: SirSpanksAlot]
    #26551322 - 03/22/20 04:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Heyo, been following this thread a while

a suggestion

You can always fill in your spare time of waiting on fruits, by making LCs with left over mason jars to help cut down your waiting between batches, that way youve a lot more material to use when you make your next substrates, keeping it flowing.




What is LC? Oh, and at the beginning of this journey, I purchased 24 Mason jars, and inoculated all 24 at once. So at the moment, I don't have any spare jars, as they are all colonizing as of 03/06 when I inoculated them. I have no problems waiting until I birth all these cakes to start with another grow. In fact, I may wait a lot longer than that if I get a sizable harvest from however many flushes these 24 jars give me. To be honest, while I do want to try growing PE, if I get a ton of shrooms, I wouldn't need to for a while. I have no desire to sell them, so everything I grow is 100% for personal use. I may still be into doing perhaps a small grow with PE as early as this summer, just for the experience and because I don't know what PE is like to trip with, compared to, say Golden Teacher and Costa Rico, which are the two I am growing now.

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Evenutally you'll be itching on when your next jar will be freed up or other container. (recently Ive started picking up oven bags as a fast and cheap alternative since you should be able to get more than one use out of them apart from easy bulk preping)

As someone who hasnt grown PE, ive noticed that the only difference is in what other cultivars mention, but a "cube is a cube" is the usual
saying around here? But I would hope that Im unread about the contrast of subspecies when compared




Not trying to be dense, but I don't know what any of this means.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26551492 - 03/22/20 05:58 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey everyone, just a semi-related side question. Even though I am  waiting for colonizing right now, I am looking ahead to my next grow. I have read truly amazing things about the Penis Envy Strains, but there seem to be mixed opinions as to whether or not PE will grow and fruit properly with Pf Tek. Is this true? There also seems to be different strains or sub-strains with Penis Envy. Anyway, can someone clear this up for me? No hurry, of course, as I have probably another 2-3 weeks for full colonizing, plus however long it takes to fruit and harvest, plus however many flushes I end up getting with this grow.

All assuming this grow works out properly, of course! :mushroom2:

I would imagine that I wouldn't even be ready to start another Pf Tek from scratch for at least a few months, maybe well into the summer? But PE really has my curiosity peaked.




PE grows slowly, and doesn't drop spores.  Personally I'm not planning on working with it until I know I am good at growing mushrooms.  It looks very much like a next level thing to me.  I suspect that is part of why people don't think of it as doing well on PF cakes, because PF cakes tend to be a newbie approach.

LC (Liquid Culture) gets mentioned often as something for newbies to stay away from, it's very contamination prone so you have to know that you are good at keeping things completely clean.  It's also best started with agar.

Agar would be a much better way to fill the time in between, IMO.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26551537 - 03/22/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Hey everyone, just a semi-related side question. Even though I am  waiting for colonizing right now, I am looking ahead to my next grow. I have read truly amazing things about the Penis Envy Strains, but there seem to be mixed opinions as to whether or not PE will grow and fruit properly with Pf Tek. Is this true? There also seems to be different strains or sub-strains with Penis Envy. Anyway, can someone clear this up for me? No hurry, of course, as I have probably another 2-3 weeks for full colonizing, plus however long it takes to fruit and harvest, plus however many flushes I end up getting with this grow.

All assuming this grow works out properly, of course! :mushroom2:

I would imagine that I wouldn't even be ready to start another Pf Tek from scratch for at least a few months, maybe well into the summer? But PE really has my curiosity peaked.



Bam! penis cakes! It can be done with relative ease. I would recommend letting them consolidate for 2 weeks over the 1 week for normal cubes.





When this whole covid thing blows over and I have some swabs I will send you some. You will have to move to agar and grain to get the spores onto media. PE doesn't like to drop spores so unless you have a method to run a centerfuge as I have read SW does you will need to start with a sterile swab of the underside of the cap.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
    #26551575 - 03/22/20 06:57 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks for the info, Babylon!

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Bam! penis cakes! It can be done with relative ease. I would recommend letting them consolidate for 2 weeks over the 1 week for normal cubes.




Wow that's really cool, brother. Nice pics! :mushroom2:


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When this whole covid thing blows over and I have some swabs I will send you some. You will have to move to agar and grain to get the spores onto media. PE doesn't like to drop spores so unless you have a method to run a centerfuge as I have read SW does you will need to start with a sterile swab of the underside of the cap.





Honestly, while I think this is all great, the more I think about it, the more I think I'm going to stay with PF Tek and syringe inoculation for at least my first few grows. Before I move onto more nuanced and complex stuff, like Agar and grain, and many of the other awesome stuff I have read here, I intend to first master Pf Tek. So I really want to do at least 3 grows with that Tek first, master it, then move onto something else.

That's if I even care enough to. Look, let me be honest here. I'm not a dealer, and have zero interest in selling a single shroom. I have no aspirations of becoming an amateur mycologist or hobbyist. Literally the only reason I am doing this is I just want some shrooms, and I would prefer not to pay dealers for it, because I would rather know exactly what I'm getting.

That's why when people recommend other teks, the first question I ask myself is, "Really? Why?" The only thing that would make me want to even switch from PF tek, which seems about as idiot-proof as anything I have ever read on this topic, would be if I get crappy or unsatisfactory yields. Or, as I said above, maybe to grow PE, if I even bother.

But my sense, and please correct me if I'm wrong here, is that assuming I get several good flushes, after inoculating 24 cakes, in about a month or so, I am going to be pretty much swimming in shrooms. If I'm not, and the yields are not satisfactory for my own personal use, then that's another conversation. But if I get a ton of shrooms, I would probably just stay loyal to PF Tek.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26551609 - 03/22/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Man you are gonna be swimming in shrooms. 24 cakes will yeild alot. That being said, I don't even eat shrooms anymore. I still have a jar from 4 years ago.

For me the joy is in the art of cultivation. Tweaking things and trying new methods. But it is easier because I have amased 12 years worth of hardware so if it is needed, I have it.

But I so think this year is gonna be a time of healing and it's time to drink some tea maybe.

As far as PF, you can still make cakes with a LC syringe. If you get a swab and it's fairly clean you can make a LC with some LME or Carrot and PC it. Then open the vial the swab is in and cut the top of the cotton and let it drop in the LC container. Give it a week and suck it up into one of your empty syringes that has been sterilized. Then use it just like you would a spore syringe.

Those cakes were grown from PE LC. Which is what I managed to save and get to germinate on agar last month. The Shoebox is 5 days in.

In a few more days I will case it in jiffy and put it into fruiting.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Sockadin]
    #26552691 - 03/23/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Man you are gonna be swimming in shrooms. 24 cakes will yeild alot.




Yaaay!

Its like I'm a contestant on some hippy game show, and the host says, "Well, you have just won two years worth of Magic Mushrooms!" wild applause from the crowd as I bow humbly. "And that's not all, because if you get more than 2 or 3 flushes, you might get another year's worth!"

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Sockadin said:That being said, I don't even eat shrooms anymore. I still have a jar from 4 years ago.




Send them off to me then, bitch! (kidding)

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For me the joy is in the art of cultivation. Tweaking things and trying new methods. But it is easier because I have amased 12 years worth of hardware so if it is needed, I have it.




Wow, that's pretty amazing, actually! Whereabouts are you from, by the way? I am in the Big Apple myself.

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But I so think this year is gonna be a time of healing and it's time to drink some tea maybe.




Why is that? Are you talking about the insanity with Covid-19 or more personal stuff?

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As far as PF, you can still make cakes with a LC syringe. If you get a swab and it's fairly clean you can make a LC with some LME or Carrot and PC it. Then open the vial the swab is in and cut the top of the cotton and let it drop in the LC container. Give it a week and suck it up into one of your empty syringes that has been sterilized. Then use it just like you would a spore syringe.




We'll definitely revisit this later, as right now, this is all alien to me. But then again, so was Pf Tek before I started talking to you and watching the RogerRabbit vids.

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Those cakes were grown from PE LC. Which is what I managed to save and get to germinate on agar last month. The Shoebox is 5 days in.




Are you talking about the two Penis Envy pics in your last post? If so, I have heard a lot of great things about Shoebox Tek (um...is it even a tek or part of another tek?) so another thing we can revisit later.

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In a few more days I will case it in jiffy and put it into fruiting.




Awesome! Keep those pics coming, I love seeing 'em, my friend.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26553046 - 03/23/20 12:35 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

To be honest, I have had much more success with LC over agar, as the preparation for it is fast and simple opposed to agar with the colinization can only spread densely on the surface.

The culture can easily suspend in the media as it consumes the nutrients and can either form a floating disk or weblink blob in the media. The blob is easy to use over the disk form as its mycelium is wispy and a glass shard at the bottom can easily shake up and shred the blood for easy inoculate


Regardless if the agar method works best for you or LC/GW (grain water), mycelium will flourish in nearly anything with nutricious sources

Dextrous LC (BHT)

Recently shook-up BHT GW (formed a disk like the KO)

King Oyster GW in the middle

So just enjoy the ride cause your mycelium will surprise you at times

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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: SirSpanksAlot]
    #26553134 - 03/23/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I have a question about my SGFC. I drilled all the holes, as I posted a while back, but I was wondering, is there any reason I need to get rid of all that plastic bits jutting out and in the hole/surfaces? It’s a bit annoying, they’re semi sharp but they don’t really cut or anything. But I was wondering, since the holes are all intact and air can get in and out, which is the main benefit of drilling all those holes, is there any reason other than aesthetics or inconvenience that I need to sand all of that rough plastic down? I tried it on the lid and I was able to sand the top. The problem is, I left a whole bunch of scratches and streaks through the clear lid. My guess is that they shouldn’t be significant, and I’m probably OK with just leaving the holes the way they are as long as there is aor exchange possible in the chamber? But I just want to make sure that there’s no other reason besides aesthetic’s that I would want to sand down all that debris that is sticking into and out of the chamber through each of the holes.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose] * 1
    #26553146 - 03/23/20 01:39 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Are you currently using the sgfc?

if so, then you could probably get through your current grow with it being left alone. Consider your environment and whether youre comfortable with the risks of carrying any possible contaminate seed/spores to the next batch.

Plus good hygenine is great practice for anything else you may choose to make, like edible gourmet.

Depending on what you do to clean, it helps to get all the nooks/cranny.

If no, why not sand it down then clean it and use it? Knock it out before you start it up

All this is purely preference though

(when I made my mono, i prefered to melt my holes in with a nail and torch, so the need to sand was eliminated with ease, but the larger hole were reverse drilled in -the exits flared,requiring a bit extra attention, but Ive not trimmed or sanded down. so theres always a learning curve, dont feel discouraged, the mushrooms will grow regardless if you clean everything 80% or lower)


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: SirSpanksAlot]
    #26553684 - 03/23/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Are you currently using the sgfc?




Not yet. This coming Thursday will be 3 weeks after I inoculated my 24 half-pint jars of substrate.

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if so, then you could probably get through your current grow with it being left alone. Consider your environment and whether youre comfortable with the risks of carrying any possible contaminate seed/spores to the next batch.




I decided that I would address the issue now. Honestly, I don't think that all that plastic shit all over the holes, making everything jagged and nasty, probably wouldn't hurt the fruiting when I birth the cakes and put them in the SGFC in a few weeks. But I wanted to handle it now anyway.

What I did was I took about 2 hours, and let me tell you it was tedious as f*ck lol. In that time, I grabbed a needle-nose pliers, wire cutter, and regular pliers. I just went to work grabbing, twisting, and pulling all that plastic crap that was remaining after drilling all the holes. This was really annoying, but I think worth it. The SGFC is much neater and more tidy than it was, now that I got rid of most of all that plastic. The holes are now all clear. I also ran to Lowes and grabbed some clear epoxy-resin and I spread it into all the cracks that came from the drilling, and I'm letting it all dry now. But all my little and medium sized cracks are covered in the epoxy resin, and in the cases where the cracks were larger, I pulled them open a little, spread some epoxy inside the cracks, effectively gluing them together. Then I spread the epoxy over all the cracks, so its now all water right at least.

All in all, I think that I improved my terrarium for when I'm ready for it.

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Plus good hygenine is great practice for anything else you may choose to make, like edible gourmet.

Depending on what you do to clean, it helps to get all the nooks/cranny.

If no, why not sand it down then clean it and use it? Knock it out before you start it up

All this is purely preference though




I totally agree on hygiene. Not just for fruiting either. When I inoculated all my jars, I took a shower right before, scrubbing everything. I put on fresh, clean clothes. I put my hair into a doo-rag, since human hair has a lot of microbes in it. I used Tyvek sleeves, and before starting, I used 91% alcohol on my gloves, the hypodermic needles, and even my Tyvek sleeves. The point is, its important to have good hygiene.

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(when I made my mono, i prefered to melt my holes in with a nail and torch, so the need to sand was eliminated with ease, but the larger hole were reverse drilled in -the exits flared,requiring a bit extra attention, but Ive not trimmed or sanded down. so theres always a learning curve, dont feel discouraged, the mushrooms will grow regardless if you clean everything 80% or lower)




Agreed. I definitely went overboard here today. But here's my thinking:

I know there is NO rational or empirical basis for this, but I want my Terrarium to be not only great to grow in, but also I want it to be as close to perfect as possible. In a sense, this is a spiritual thing on my part, but I don't care. I want my terrarium to be a spiritually welcoming place for these mushrooms to come into this world in, like a comfortable, clean, and streamlined home. Again, this is not in any way empirical and has zero objective value, but I figure it like this: the universe, Goddess, God, and whatever is out there, its their job to actually bring the mushrooms into the world. But my job is to facilitate that, and I wanted the environment to be loving and welcoming for them, since they are coming into the world to bring me the experience that their psilocybin offers.


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    #26553891 - 03/23/20 08:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, so I am a little uncertain how to proceed from here. As I expected, because of my n00b technique I'm sure, the jars are all colonizing at markedly different rates. I need to take some pics and post them here tomorrow or Wednesday.

So, of the24 jars:

I have 12 jars that are now all white, completely in terms of jar's cylinders, and are now colonizing on the bottoms of the jars at varying rates. One or two have the bottoms completely white, and the other 10 are in progress colonizing the bottoms at various rates.

Then I have 5 jars that are lagging a little behind the 12 above in various stages. All of them have also started colonizing the bottoms, but these 5 all have one minor interruption in the cylindrical colonizing. The un-colonized "gap" in each jar ranges from like 1/4 inch of brown substrate to about an inch.

1 Jar is a lot like the 5 I just listed, only it has a slightly less than 2 inch gap of still un-colonized substrate, and also like the 5 and the 12 above, is also starting to colonize the bottom.

So that's 18 jars doing very well so far!

Now the remaining 6 are a mixed bag. I will try to describe, but again, I will post pics tomorrow.

-1 jar is really lagging for some reason. It is truly the odd man out. It has only about 3 inches of colonization, and the rest looks un-colonized. Also, no visible colonization on the bottom. It was so bad that it looked like only ONE of the inoculated holes was actually producing mycelium. Soooo on Saturday (that just past), I grabbed a syringe with some leftover Costa Rico in it, flame sterilized it on my stove, and inoculated three of the holes, where I was seeing zero evidence of growth. That one is definitely the outlier, and I suspect I will be birthing that cake much later than the other ones.

-As for the other 5, these a lagging behind, but not as bad as the one above. Of those 5, two are ones I only inoculated on 03/12, which was 6 days after I inoculated most of the jars. So I expect those to be behind. But they are actually starting to catch up quite nicely. One of those two (03/12 inoculations) is spotty but almost filled in the cylinder with no visible bottom growth, while the other one has like a 3 inch gap in the mycelium, but has bottom growth. The remaining 3 of these jars have between a 2 and a 3 inch gap in the mycelium with some bottom growth.

That's all 24 jars in a nutshell.

My questions are this:

1. Should I be prepared to stagger the birthing of these cakes? I can definitely see waiting for the set of of 6 jars that are lagging far behind to consolidate, so that I can kind of foresee birthing the first 18 at once, if you guys think that would work. Then, my thinking is I would need to play it by ear for the stragglers, who all 6 of them are at various stages of colonizing, but waaay behind the first group of 12 and pretty far behind the second group of 6.

2. How do I actually know when a jar is fully colonized versus just looking "white?"

3. When do I start my one week countdown from full colonizing to consolidation?

4. If the cakes start pinning in the jar, how do I recognize this? Meaning what does it look like? Also, does that mean I waited too long?

Thanks all! But things are definitely coming along nicely.


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    #26554093 - 03/23/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

LC and agar are both things that happen before the cake, if you want to keep buying syringes from vendors none of that is going to be relevant to you.

If you want to make your own syringes, that's when you need to start thinking about how you want to do that.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Babylon]
    #26554113 - 03/23/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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LC and agar are both things that happen before the cake, if you want to keep buying syringes from vendors none of that is going to be relevant to you.

If you want to make your own syringes, that's when you need to start thinking about how you want to do that.




I understand that liquid culture and agar happen before the cakes. Just to be clear, when I was speaking about these things with several people in this thread, it was more sophistry and intellectual exercise than a serious endeavor. My only concern right now is growing what I’m growing, I couldn’t care less about making my own syringes at this point in time. I don’t foresee myself becoming interested in doing it anytime in the near future either. I haven’t even made my first harvest yet.  And I see no reason why I shouldn’t just order syringes if I’m getting really good results. Which hopefully I will get. Maybe it’s sometime in the future I’ll make my own, if I get a lot more into this than I am now. Right now I just want some shrooms LOL. Most of the people here are into the nuances of growing with different techniques, and are mycologists to one degree or another. That’s not me.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26554121 - 03/23/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Babylon said:
LC and agar are both things that happen before the cake, if you want to keep buying syringes from vendors none of that is going to be relevant to you.

If you want to make your own syringes, that's when you need to start thinking about how you want to do that.




I understand that liquid culture and agar happen before the cakes. Just to be clear, when I was speaking about these things with several people in this thread, it was more sophistry and intellectual exercise. My only concern right now is growing what I’m growing, I couldn’t care less about making my own syringes at this point in time. I don’t foresee myself becoming interested in doing it anytime in the near future either. I haven’t even made my first harvest yet.  And I see no reason why I shouldn’t just order syringes if I’m getting really good results. Which hopefully I will get. Maybe it’s sometime in the future I’ll make my own, if I get a lot more into this than I am now. Right now I just want some shrooms LOL. Most of the people here are into the nuances of growing with different techniques, and are mycologists to one degree or another. That’s not me.





Personally I'm into it because it means I am not dependent on vendors.  If the law changes and spores become illegal I am still able to make mushrooms because I know how to make and harvest spores.  Vendors in the past have gone from being reputable to disreputable.  I hate to think that would happen to any that we have now, but you never know.


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Re: I Need A Lot of Help to Start Cultivating Mushrooms - Total N00b Here! [Re: Babylon]
    #26554132 - 03/23/20 10:11 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Babylon said:
Personally I'm into it because it means I am not dependent on vendors.  If the law changes and spores become illegal I am still able to make mushrooms because I know how to make and harvest spores.  Vendors in the past have gone from being reputable to disreputable.  I hate to think that would happen to any that we have now, but you never know.




Its not really that much of a concern to me. Necessity is the mother of invention, and the moment the laws change or vendors I trust become disreputable, then I would learn how to make spore syringes, because I would have to. Its a pretty simple formula. As long as Pf Tek works for me, is a viable means of growing shrooms, and the spore syringes are readily available, then I keep doing what I'm doing. The moment any link in that particular chain is severed, then I will have to adapt and make whatever adjustments and changes need to be made to my methodology at that time.

Simple.


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