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Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe
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Or are you?
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It might already have exploded 8 minutes and 19 seconds ago  
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: tomnl]
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I may still be in the embrace but it sure would suck..
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I'll stop the world and melt with you...
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Fuck that shit. Death is death = nothingness
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Tripsurfer]
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Where does the electrical energy transfer to?
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Tripsurfer said: Fuck that shit. Death is death = nothingness
the assurance of the void is the embrace

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One cannot experience non-experience, and therefore, one shall only experience, experience
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
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You could get all non-dualistic about it, but the thing that makes you perceive a self stops to exist. Sure matter and even energy goes back into the closed system of all existence and therefore nothing ever truly dissapears, but to say that "you" exist after death is nonsense imho
And if I do find myself existing after death imma be pissed
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remake said: One cannot experience non-experience, and therefore, one shall only experience, experience
How do you know? You ever non experience before?
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'tis precisely the point!!!!!!
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I know. No one TRULY knows the "truth" until they die, and no one has been back to tell the tale.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: remake]
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Just cos you cant do something doesnt mean it cant be done :p
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I agree, which is why:
if you were to experience non-experience you will be experiencing and not not-experiencing non-experience, and therefore you will experience and never not-experience non-experience. You shall only
E X P E R I E N C E

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I agree, which is why:
if you were to experience non-experience you will be experiencing and not not-experiencing non-experience, and therefore you will experience and never not-experience non-experience. You shall only
E X P E R I E N C E


non experience would not be an experience.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: spirit_shadow]
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...and therefore it would be experiencing a non experience.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: tyrannicalrex] 1
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I think yall are ignoring the fact that you have experienced non-experience before you were born. How did that feel? There was no feel because you were not there? Precisely...
Also, "Where does the electrical energy transfer to?" IMHO : Electrical energy is not the same as consciousness. And with all due respect, I am sick of people making that comparison.
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According to my readings on Pleiadian Spirituality, the Soul is Eternal. However, the Soul incarniates on Earth because our human Souls are tied to the Earth. If Earth was destroyed, where would our Souls reincarinate to? Would be just exist in the fine-matter (spirit) realm until another suitable planet was found?
These questions i ponder....
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LogicaL Chaos said: According to my readings on Pleiadian Spirituality, the Soul is Eternal. However, the Soul incarniates on Earth because our human Souls are tied to the Earth. If Earth was destroyed, where would our Souls reincarinate to? Would be just exist in the fine-matter (spirit) realm until another suitable planet was found?
These questions i ponder....
Its also accurate based on what ive gathered. Although not found but newly formed.
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LogicaL Chaos said: According to my readings on Pleiadian Spirituality, the Soul is Eternal. However, the Soul incarniates on Earth because our human Souls are tied to the Earth. If Earth was destroyed, where would our Souls reincarinate to? Would be just exist in the fine-matter (spirit) realm until another suitable planet was found?
These questions i ponder....
Buddhist and Hindu systems of belief have a number of non-Earth inhabiting realms of demons and deities it is considered possible to escape the cycle of rebirth in any of these realms, humans just have the best opportunity because our lives happen on a scale that teach us suffering and celebration in balance and decrease the likelihood of getting too attached to either
in the absence of an Earth and human incarnations, the "soul" would likely just continue through those realms
the real point of interest is that the experience of experiencing is the trap of rebirth, and the ultimate freedom is considered to be reaching a point where the void is all that is ahead
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Tripsurfer said: You could get all non-dualistic about it, but the thing that makes you perceive a self stops to exist. Sure matter and even energy goes back into the closed system of all existence and therefore nothing ever truly dissapears, but to say that "you" exist after death is nonsense imho
And if I do find myself existing after death imma be pissed 
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You are a direct product of the laws of the universe at this point in time.
I don't believe in an eternity of nothing, in a universe that stops rejuvinating itself for all eternity.
You'll have big bangs, over and over and during the stellar era of those bangs, every possible guise of you living every possible life are statistical occurrances.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Primal Glitch]
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flugelizor said: I think yall are ignoring the fact that you have experienced non-experience before you were born. How did that feel? There was no feel because you were not there? Precisely...
Also, "Where does the electrical energy transfer to?" IMHO : Electrical energy is not the same as consciousness. And with all due respect, I am sick of people making that comparison.
This I ponder, In the depths of PERINATAL REALMS ive experienced not-myself but those who where before me, their sadness, pain, struggles & joy. I was hammered hard until to the point of singularity. This i wonder if there is a truly such a thing as empty nothing.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Asante] 1
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Asante said: ... I don't believe in an eternity of nothing, in a universe that stops rejuvinating itself for all eternity. ...
the mistake here is to confuse the values of human experience for the values of Universal experience an eternity of void for the Atman (the individual observing soul) may take place during a cycle of void for the Brahman (the universal soul)
that the Universe decays to emptiness and gestates before a "big bang" is perfectly comprehensible to that degree of scale but that also generates entirely new matrices of Atman along with it
void is not just "nothing existing" it is the point of pure potentiality for all possible existent things
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: flugelizor] 1
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Asante did too much drugs in his life.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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tyrannicalrex said: ...and therefore it would be experiencing a non experience.
If you are non experiencing then there is no frame of reference, no point of observation....in other words, no way to tell someone else or yourself so it is not experiencing
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Tantrika] 1
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Yup. According to the Pleiadian teachings, the ultimate purpose of reincarination is for the soul to evolve to the point of complete spiritual awareness where you are intuned with Creation completely and therefore become your own spirit self. At this point, a person who become non-physical and transcend into the higher spirit realms which they call the "fine-matter realm".
Its also interesting that within the Pleiadian literature, they mention several Hindu concepts such as the Yugas, which is a 26,000 year "spiritual cycle" of high spirituality and low spirituality. Right now, we are exiting the low spirituality Yuga which ended in 2012 and the new High-Spiritual Yuga starts around this year (hence Asante's stronger connection with Spirituality for example). I predict that concepts of Spirituality are going to be more common among non-believers/agnostics in this year and from here on.
Back in the day, i used to Agnostic. Today, im definitely a believer in God/Creator/Creation.
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These are the questions that hold me up from enjoying life. I hate that our lifespans aren't at least star length
I didn't do the poll because I'm worried that everyone is on the bottom half of the poll. I at least want biological "immortality" until the supposedly inevitable heat death
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Primal Glitch]
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Asante states one of the few sensible final outcomes of the universe: You are a direct product of the laws of the universe at this point in time.
I don't believe in an eternity of nothing, in a universe that stops rejuvinating itself for all eternity.
You'll have big bangs, over and over and during the stellar era of those bangs, every possible guise of you living every possible life are statistical occurrances.
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Patlal said: Asante did too much drugs in his life.
If you have a tub of lego, and it is played with eternally, every possible combination of a few bricks will recur infinitely, with every possible outcome.
I think I've had *enough* drugs, I get it now.
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u da man Asante!
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It's all a lot more than I will be able to tell...therefore yea, I'm safe, I'm safe in possibilities.
I feel like there is a realm where all information is stored...but that realm itself is also not as "solid" as matter in other sorts of ways.
Consciousness might just be what information "feels" like. When the cells/molecules have those interactions they are having based on a MASSIVE storehouse of information they are connecting to a strand of information contained in their DNA that has been encoded here into reality.
We are like giant cells inside of a giant biosphere - together we create a bigger organism but to develop ourselves we are sensing things the way that we are cause we are trying to utilize the storage of information that we have available to us......that's how we are "feeling" the consciousnesses that we have here on Earth...there is a massive storage of information here inside of us and also outside of us.
Unfortunately we have been disconnected from our ancestors and the the true "strand" where our full memory is stored connecting us deeply to what we actually are - a part of this biosphere, here for the good of the whole and the next 7 generations.
Obviously you pass on a lot of information and you can identify "yourself" with your body and say that you're not safe here but the body is a just a part of the whole that is bigger and has a purpose together.
Identifying yourself as the body is like a cell identifying as a cell. It might be useful in SOME way to the cell to be able to somehow identify itself within its immediate surroundings...but ultimately that thing which "was" and "is" and "will always have been" identifying itself as a cell somewhere in our universe, like we may be identifying ourselves as a body right now, was just a temporary storage of information...
...nothingness does not exist anywhere...everything is somethingness...we are afraid of being "emptied" of our very existence but instead we will be filled back up with the full existence of everything that we truly are but that we had temporary forgotten, in order to do our duty to the greater body as just a smaller part of it!
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But I am actually WAY OFF because it is so much greater and so much more mysterious than what I could possibly know right now. lol. This is just a flowery poem basically, made to describe some grand idea that we can't share with concrete information.
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I have this feeling that when we croak here we go back to a place that we came from. This doesn’t feel like ‘home’ to me, I think we’re on a trip at this point in our realities. Absolutely no proof to back that up but I think there’s something going on there.
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You are correct in your feelings Amanita 
I'll see you in the Spirit Realm
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Yes they have. It's called a Near Death Experience. There are plenty of videos of them on Youtube. Many people have also written books on them.
Everything is really infinite potential consciousness, existing as a single thing. I know this because in my biggest breakthrough, my mind was all-encompassing (the entire universe).
Anyone can experience this. Just roll with a high - very high dose of psilocybin in perfect silent darkness.
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as much as I like the tibetan book of the dead and the tibetan book of living and dying, I think neither our language or minds can grasp what happens outside of spacetime. kinda like breaking through on DMT or having an "ego death" on mushrooms, I might try my best to put it into words but every time I feel like that's not what actually happened, like my mind is simplifying things for me to process
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 3
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I'll see you in the Spirit Realm 
an insight of the kind of world I consider my home. Having the same foresight as to those who have experienced maltreatment & have witnessed the idiocacy brought by the unjust authorities of this world.(heb11)
“These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.”I do find joy along the journey in this world, seeking & stumbling upon my fellow offshore ‘countrymen’ in this subs for the world to come (2pet3). “Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Painkiller]
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I think they truly haven't seen it all the way through. Has someone come back from the dead let's say a week, month, or a year later that's been cryogenically frozen? NO! So the whole entire truth is not really known is it? We can not know it completely until we die completely, period.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26493054 - 02/19/20 08:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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At 90 years of age, a Vegan couple decides to just for once try a steak and dies.
They arrive in the afterlife, Saint Peter catches them at the entrance:
"Welcome to heaven. Heaven is better than the best holiday resort ever, you can do so much more than a mortal can, and with zero suffering because you no longer have a body."
Asks he: "Whats that gonna cost us?"
Sais Saint Peter: "Nothing, everything is completely free and you can see God and reincarnate whenever you like."
Said he to her: "You and your Soy Milk and your damn Tofu! We could have had this 20 years earlier!"
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Asante]
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You know, genetics play the major role in lifespan. So, even the healthiest person who eats "right", and exercises all the time, goes vegan or whatever only adds 3-5 years to their lifespan. Have you seen a 100yo person? do you want to live that long? What about a 120yo person? I personally do not want to become that frail and feeble. I'm thinking around mid 80's to mid 90's I just want to go to sleep. Quality of life is more important than quantity of life to me.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26493128 - 02/19/20 09:51 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Having your heart stop is dieing. People have died for minutes, had their NDE, then "come back" and told their story.
Here are three NDS's. The third one is my favourite and explains the most.
This one's also really good. I love when she says "I was existence itself". Reminds me of the feeling..............
You might also like this one. A neurosurgeon had an NDE, wrote a book about it and has done presentations on it. I've read his book, Proof of Heaven, and I found it to be a lovely read that resonated in me on a deep level. Here's a presentation of his.
NDEers often say the other side is "more real than this (earth walk)" and that this is dreamy compared to the "other side" and I can totally imagine this to be case after my breakthroughs on psilocybin.
If I were to say I knew one thing, it is that we're all one and that there's only life.
And like I said before, anyone can have the experience if they dose high enough in the right setting and roll with it.
I actually most enjoy facilitating ones mystical experience, so people are welcome to PM me questions on how to have their own mystical experience. My advice should be enough, but if people like I'm more than happy to meet up with anyone interested in order to facilitate their mystical experience. I think it's greatest gift one can give: to facilitate an experience of one's own divinity............. so it's a total pleasure for me to do this.........
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Painkiller]
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I know, but these are merely minutes. Has there been people who have died for days, weeks months, or years and come back? NO, there hasn't. So that truth will never be known by a person no matter how many stories are told by however many people, because it can not be completely known until one completely expires. I can be an obstinate MF'r, lol. I do like those some of those stories sometimes.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Painkiller] 2
#26493243 - 02/19/20 11:24 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here’s a couple I like because it’s from the point of people who aren’t necessarily “brainwashed by religion” and so report from an outsiders point of view on just what it is they see.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: ichugwindex]
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ichugwindex said: These are the questions that hold me up from enjoying life. I hate that our lifespans aren't at least star length
I didn't do the poll because I'm worried that everyone is on the bottom half of the poll. I at least want biological "immortality" until the supposedly inevitable heat death
Dude you struggle to make it through the day. How the hell are you going to manage eternity?
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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I suppose noone has been dead for a while then "come back" like you're saying. I have heard of spirit mediums contacting the deceased, but I don't know enough about this to talk about it.
I can say, that in a psilocybin breakthrough I just know there's only life. I know it like it's the most obvious thing.
For things to develop completely on their own and become conscious to me sounds most unlikely. Rather, everything is a single thing called life and is infinite potential consciousnesses.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Amanita86]
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Oh, I like that, but you can't see me can you? You have ignored me, lol! Still, my point is that until someone is dead for like a week, and then comes back, the real answer will NEVER be known by another human being. Only by complete death can one know "the truth", period.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Painkiller]
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Painkiller said: I suppose noone has been dead for a while then "come back" like you're saying. I have heard of spirit mediums contacting the deceased, but I don't know enough about this to talk about it.
I can say, that in a psilocybin breakthrough I just know there's only life. I know it like it's the most obvious thing.
For things to develop completely on their own and become conscious to me sounds most unlikely. Rather, everything is a single thing called life and is infinite potential consciousnesses.
YES! We are all one, we are all "god". Ever read on the Gaian earth theory? I like this the most. https://www.google.com/search?q=gaian+earth+theory&rlz=1C1NHXL_enUS728US728&oq=gaian+earth+theory&aqs=chrome..69i57.5357j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26493320 - 02/19/20 12:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think my biggest problem is if my religion is right, then billions of people who were good people and deserve to go to heaven what go to hell because they were born on the "wrong" side of the planet? That doesn't seem right
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Seriously_trippin]
#26493363 - 02/19/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Where does it say a single person will burn forever? Truth is the bible is HELLA vague on the subject of death. I think that is on purpose. If I was a grand author I wouldn't want the reader to know the whole story before finishing it
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: ichugwindex]
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These are the questions that hold me up from enjoying life. I hate that our lifespans aren't at least star length.
Female mayflies usually live less than five minutes, so humans have it pretty good
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: spirit_shadow] 1
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spirit_shadow said: Where does it say a single person will burn forever? Truth is the bible is HELLA vague on the subject of death. I think that is on purpose. If I was a grand author I wouldn't want the reader to know the whole story before finishing it 
A little insider info, hell is being absent of God. God is life. Hell is being removed from life for good. The book also states that nobody passes through this life without the opportunity to wake up into it.
A lot of the context becomes more 3D when you take various verses and compare them to each other. Thats why all these conflicting verses arguments are all single verses out of context. It takes time to realize what’s actually going on because things aren’t always as they appear. You won’t find much gold in the mainstream.
There’s a reason Jesus was hated. A lot of these pastors are doing nothing more than playing politician. Watch them, the mannerisms and act are the same.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Amanita86]
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Again, I could be wrong, who knows..
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Amanita86] 2
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Christ's teachings make more sense when "god" isn't viewed as person-like. And heaven and hell are seen as experiences (not as locations people go to live after death). I try to embrace the wisdom of insecurity, and feel safe no matter if the sun explodes or a meteor lands on my head. All things shall pass. I'm cool with that.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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I've heard of it but I haven't read much into it. I might read into it one day.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: spirit_shadow]
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spirit_shadow said: Where does it say a single person will burn forever? Truth is the bible is HELLA vague on the subject of death. I think that is on purpose. If I was a grand author I wouldn't want the reader to know the whole story before finishing it 
Well Christianity is pretty clear that whoever shall believe in him shall be saved which to me sounds like everyone else is pretty fucked no?
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Seriously_trippin] 2
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Im a firm believer that Christianity has some great Spiritual elements but its also mixed with fear-mongering to keep people "in line".
Its a mixture of positive and negative aspects of what Spirituality is about. A mic of Truth and Fear for the Masses.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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What’s the fear mongering?
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Amanita86]
#26494918 - 02/20/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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That one will burn in hell for eternity, yeah, that. oh wait, I'm ignored.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: tyrannicalrex]
#26495534 - 02/20/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I believe we return to a state of pure creativity where anything and everything is possible and just have like an explosion of divine pleasure.
This is what my acid trip said when I was convinced I was dead forever...


Any belief that dulls imagination is a bit lame imo
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: remake]
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Maybe we're already dead and just not able to grasp wtf is infinity...so we're just chillin from time to time in a safe reality where there are limits and starts and ends... 
Maybe...who knows? Maybe we're all dragons tripping on flubby wubby water.
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remake said: Maybe we're already dead and just not able to grasp wtf is infinity...
We are on the verge of death the experience of Life is the flashback we can't process it as it goes so we repackage it and experience it all at once before we go
that's why we get funky feelings like fatalism and deja vu we've been through all the experiences and "know" what is "coming" but we are actually in the observer seat, weighing out all we have done before giving it away forever
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Amanita86]
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Amanita86 said: What’s the fear mongering?
If you dont believe in God or Jesus, youre going to HELL. If youre gay, youre going to HELL. If you have sex before marriage, youre going to HELL. Descriptions of an upcoming global Apocalypse and fearing The Devil/Satan. Thats all fear-mongering.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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Seriously_trippin said: Well Christianity is pretty clear that whoever shall believe in him shall be saved which to me sounds like everyone else is pretty fucked no?
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tyrannicalrex said: That one will burn in hell for eternity, yeah, that. oh wait, I'm ignored.
99.9% of the majority specially the master's of tithing abuses those line. When in actuality.
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We are on the verge of death the experience of Life is the flashback we can't process it as it goes so we repackage it and experience it all at once before we go
that's why we get funky feelings like fatalism and deja vu we've been through all the experiences and "know" what is "coming" but we are actually in the observer seat, weighing out all we have done before giving it away forever
this is what ive experience lately as if i was just reliving my life in every perspective.
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: pacmanbreed]
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We are on the verge of death the experience of Life is the flashback we can't process it as it goes so we repackage it and experience it all at once before we go
that's why we get funky feelings like fatalism and deja vu we've been through all the experiences and "know" what is "coming" but we are actually in the observer seat, weighing out all we have done before giving it away forever
this is what ive experience lately as if i was just reliving my life in every perspective.

have wrestled with it for a while the biggest aspect discrediting it is my own ability to talk about it in a way that is comprehensible and may impact your own experience when it "should" be that my individual manifestation is oblivious to the event until right before it happens
basically, this would imply my narrator interrupting the story with new details in a way that proceeds to change the rest of the story but maybe this is me breaking through to the collective unconcious, and will end up facing paradox as a result (sorry, nerd reference to Mage: The Awakening)
it came to me as a concept due to pondering the lack of reality of time and a "decision" that what must occur is that our entire life track happens instantaneously, due to an absence of time to break it up and when we get grasp on it for a moment, we create the concept of time so we can slow it down and observe it in a comprehensible way that ascribes cause and effect to things taking place, instead of the implications of randomness that all things instantly happening would imply
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Tantrika]
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So....you are implying the speed of thought is faster than the speed of light?...... Poppycock
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: spirit_shadow]
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spirit_shadow said: So....you are implying the speed of thought is faster than the speed of light?...... Poppycock 
had not thought of the implications in that way but this would more accurately be implying that "thought" (the observation and processing) is a non-manifest energy taking place outside the manifest universe which would then extrapolate into it being "faster" than the speed of light, because it is outside of the physical measurement scale
the real part that should bother you is the implication that all things are actually taking place at the speed of light or whatever may be the "fastest" measure that refers to everything existent simultaneously plowing into a moment
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: spirit_shadow] 2
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According to Entanglement theory of Quantum Mechanics, the information exchanged between atoms IS faster than light. But is that exchange of info between atoms a type of Universe consciousess? Thats to be deteremined by future scientists.....
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Re: Even if the Sun would explode, you would still be eternally safe in the embrace of the God-Universe [Re: Tantrika]
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Tantrika said: When it "should" be that my individual manifestation is oblivious to the event until right before it happens
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Tantrika said: We've been through all the experiences and "know" what is "coming" but we are actually in the observer seat, weighing out all we have done before giving it away forever
It may sound absurb but i do believe everything is connected in someway even the current self is somewhat entangled to the observer thoughts.
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