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Bulk substrate not colonizing
    #26491199 - 02/18/20 05:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Spawned my shoebox two days ago. I’m not seeing the slightest bit of any sign of starting colonization... I didn’t use a liner, so I’m able to see it from the sides...


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26491202 - 02/18/20 06:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Be little more patient. Two days is not a lot of time.


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: iwh678]
    #26491249 - 02/18/20 06:57 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Okay, I was anticipating a little spreading somewhat into the coir and substrate. Not unreasonable unrealistic amount of colonization, I was thinking something would at least start now 2 days in. About how many days in should I be worried if I still don’t see any signs of colonization in the bulk substrate?


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26491448 - 02/18/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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About how many days in should I be worried if I still don’t see any signs of colonization in the bulk substrate?




You should see growth sooner than that, but let's say a week. Could it perhaps be that your bulk sub was not field capacity? If the substrate is too wet, to growth will stall.

Do you see any exposed grains? As in not covered with the substrate? You should see growth around such grains in about 36 hours, but don't go digging in your substrate. Be patient, good luck!


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: Ombisha]
    #26491576 - 02/18/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If I feel like my sub may be too wet is there anything I can do? I did the field capacity test whenever I prepped it. Nothing came out at first, but when I squeezed really hard a light stream trickled and dripped. Now I’m thinking it’s too wet because I’m reading only a few drops should of come out. I had a little more than a few drops. I used Damions5050 coir tek. Is there anything I can do, or I just wasted and fucked my tub up?


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26491588 - 02/18/20 11:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Calm down man you’re good lol.

It’s like when you shake the jars, it won’t really recover and start moving again for a few days. 5 days is when I usually see circles of myc forming on the bottom and sides.

It sounds like your sub is right where it should be with water content. I made my first few to where when I squeezed really hard only a couple drops came out and it was waaayy too dry.


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: A.k.a]
    #26491909 - 02/18/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Okay got it.

I was starting to think maybe I really did have bad spawn and wasn't colonized correctly.

We were talking about how yours get done in 5 days, and with the amount of spawn I used I should also. I'm on the third day and nothing is really happening or moving, so I was concerned...


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26491936 - 02/18/20 03:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Be patient and don’t get concerned unless it starts to smell bad or the spawn color changes to black


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: SYF8]
    #26491956 - 02/18/20 03:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I’ve had some lately run it in five days but 7-8 is more average.

Are the other jars looking any different or just a little thicker?


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: A.k.a]
    #26491975 - 02/18/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Just thicker like this, here it is: (I can't tell anymore...)



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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26491999 - 02/18/20 03:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

That looks bacterial, but not so much it wouldn't colonize.


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: A.k.a]
    #26492001 - 02/18/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

This is 2-1/5 days after spawn with 4.5 jars of rye and damion5050 substrate in a 54 qt unmodded straight to fruiting.  I had quite a lot of exposed grains. What temperature is your grow in?  Mine was around 76 most of the time.  That was my first mono tub and I was amazed how fast it colonized.  Pins in 10 days and lots of fruits a week later.



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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: Odo]
    #26492008 - 02/18/20 03:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

2 1/2 days??? I'm feeling even more that something is up with mine then...

My room temperature is in the low 70's: 70-75


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: iwh678]
    #26492010 - 02/18/20 03:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

What does this mean for me then? Lots of other people in my other thread said they looked good and I'm good to go and to spawn it...

Will my bulk substrate not colonize then and just contam straight out?


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26492033 - 02/18/20 04:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It doesn't mean anything about yours. Again just be patient, you have no reason to worry at this point.

That spawn isn't terrible. I have spawned far worse without contams.


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: iwh678]
    #26492862 - 02/19/20 05:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I’m trying to be patient, but at the same time aware of any problems. It doesn’t look like my grain is bouncing back from spawning. Also, I noticed that it looks like only the tips of the individual grains are colonized, and the rest of the grain itself is bare. Is this the reason why my jars looked the way they did? I thought maybe it looked like that because I’ve heard millet kind of looks funny when colonizing. I’m also thinking this has something to do with the reason why my substrate isn’t colonizing...? I’m not expecting it to be done or anything, but I do think that I should of been seeing partly or even the start of colonization 4 days in. Nothing is taking over the substrate or coir, and from what I’ve read when that starts it just eats through the coir rapidly colonizing. I see no such thing. It’s just a bunch of millet grains with white tips still sitting in my bulk...


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26493007 - 02/19/20 08:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You can’t compare it’s speed until you’ve run it before and know how it is.

These two are both the same age.



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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: A.k.a]
    #26493198 - 02/19/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah for sure, I’m going to keep waiting. I’ve just been reading all different types of stuff, and if the grain colonization affected it in any way. That’s what I noticed the last few days and have been reading up on. Hopefully my grain and spawn did colonize correctly! But everyone seemed to concur that I was good from my pictures, and you guys got all the experience!!! How does the description of the grains sound to you?


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: A.k.a]
    #26493587 - 02/19/20 03:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Came home from work, and shoebox had an awful smell to it. Had to throw it out. So now it's definitely a fail. My grains never recovered after the spawning and just sat in the bulk substrate for 4 days never colonizing any of it, not a tiny sliver. I'm not understanding wtf happened....

Hopefully my agar comes through, that's all I have now...


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Re: Bulk substrate not colonizing [Re: psycho_nauticus]
    #26493628 - 02/19/20 03:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

What did it smell like?

No visible contamination though?

I’ve had a bunch of weird smelling tubs that did ok, but I wouldn’t describe it as awful. More like spicy fruit maybe slightly rotting


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