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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26501260 - 02/24/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Why aren’t they in their right minds? Because they want some dick and/or intimacy that they aren’t receiving? Lol. I’m confused.



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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Alexthegreat]
    #26501290 - 02/24/20 11:07 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Why aren’t they in their right minds? Because they want some dick and/or intimacy that they aren’t receiving? Lol. I’m confused.





Exactly.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26501304 - 02/24/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I agree with Thanatos here-- violating the terms of monogamy is a breach of trust and integrity-- those women would be better off to either a) figure out how to restore intimacy to their relationship or b) end the relationship and look for true intimacy. You can't have your cake and eat it too-- if the terms of the relationship allow for polyamory, that's different but looking for intimacy outside of the relationship when the relationship is founded on a joint effort between the two to formulate intimacy and uphold each other despite our own desires is violated, that's just a fault of character and dishonesty towards oneself and someone else. The worst thing people can do to each other is lie, betray and feign truth.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Roflspammer]
    #26501323 - 02/24/20 11:22 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Not really what I’m getting at but a good point regardless


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26501340 - 02/24/20 11:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I feel you ROFL. You mention excellent solutions/possibilities.

All of us know that shit doesn’t always work out the way we want it to. As a result, women take action to fulfill their need for intimacy for whatever reason. Right or wrong, it happens and will continue to happen.

We should be celebrating OPs “take it for the team” mentality because he gets to have fun and provide fun and pleasure to someone else who is not getting it. I just don’t see what’s wrong with that?

That may be confusing to y’all cause you are more mature than me, I’m definitely still a bro and recognize it.

OP posted to share something that he likes to do, other people benefit from, and then bam. Salt.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Alexthegreat]
    #26501344 - 02/24/20 11:36 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanatos, I liked where our conversation was going but then you made that comment about women and that shit was too much for me. I’m not ignoring you, I would just like to be more constructive about the conversation and to comment on that would not take us anywhere good.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Alexthegreat]
    #26501382 - 02/24/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

The issue is that the ideology itself is damaging to people, and ideologies spread through networks. Lets say 100 people read this thread and the end result is that we all agree the OP is in the right because he is able to bring pleasure to someone else-- that means these 100 people if put in similar situations are now more likely than previously to engage in similar behaviors-- which are damaging to people. Those 100 people have maybe 100 other people they come in contact with and have similar conversations-- before you know it, there is an entire network that is under the ideology that a) it is pleasure which is of the most important to attain and b) OK to lie to a partner and not pursue the truth-- that intimacy is difficult work to maintain and requires effort. Both a and b are damaging to people and should be condemned, and this is done by fighting ideology with ideology through leading a life which is honest and integral to oneself and others.

I rather live in a society where the predominate mainstream ideal is to enforce a steadfast unwavering dedication to truth and away from self-denial. Self-denial causes instability and sleeping with someone else's wife is not directly wrong on the part of the man, because he is not the cheater. The man is indirectly wrong because he is not upholding values which will benefit society, and instead working selfishly to attain pleasure. The cheater must come to terms with the fact that they are leading a life which is in denial of themselves, and this metaphysical ideal is only brought about through social exclusion and condemnation of the act itself. If you are not upholding this, you contribute to the problem overall.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Roflspammer]
    #26501428 - 02/24/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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The issue is that the ideology itself is damaging to people, and ideologies spread through networks. Lets say 100 people read this thread and the end result is that we all agree the OP is in the right because he is able to bring pleasure to someone else-- that means these 100 people if put in similar situations are now more likely than previously to engage in similar behaviors-- which are damaging to people. Those 100 people have maybe 100 other people they come in contact with and have similar conversations-- before you know it, there is an entire network that is under the ideology that a) it is pleasure which is of the most important to attain and b) OK to lie to a partner and not pursue the truth-- that intimacy is difficult work to maintain and requires effort. Both a and b are damaging to people and should be condemned, and this is done by fighting ideology with ideology through leading a life which is honest and integral to oneself and others.

I rather live in a society where the predominate mainstream ideal is to enforce a steadfast unwavering dedication to truth and away from self-denial. Self-denial causes instability and sleeping with someone else's wife is not directly wrong on the part of the man, because he is not the cheater. The man is indirectly wrong because he is not upholding values which will benefit society, and instead working selfishly to attain pleasure. The cheater must come to terms with the fact that they are leading a life which is in denial of themselves, and this metaphysical ideal is only brought about through social exclusion and condemnation of the act itself. If you are not upholding this, you contribute to the problem overall.




Self denial actually leads to order and what allows society to function. It also enables one to transcend their limits of being human.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Alexthegreat]
    #26501434 - 02/24/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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I feel you ROFL. You mention excellent solutions/possibilities.

All of us know that shit doesn’t always work out the way we want it to. As a result, women take action to fulfill their need for intimacy for whatever reason. Right or wrong, it happens and will continue to happen.

We should be celebrating OPs “take it for the team” mentality because he gets to have fun and provide fun and pleasure to someone else who is not getting it. I just don’t see what’s wrong with that?

That may be confusing to y’all cause you are more mature than me, I’m definitely still a bro and recognize it.

OP posted to share something that he likes to do, other people benefit from, and then bam. Salt.




Except they don’t benefit from it, not truly. They are caught in dependency needs and all he is doing is reinforcing it. They aren’t truly benefiting from it at all. The fact that they want intimacy is another weakness as well. It’s a shame you are stuck in thinking they benefit from it, unable to see the bigger picture


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26501652 - 02/24/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

It’s become very apparent that you’re not getting laid and want everybody else to be as miserable as you. 

Awaiting psycho-babble response.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Anonymous #3] * 1
    #26501683 - 02/24/20 02:38 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thana and Rofl, you 2 can do what you like, but don't try to impose your archaic idealism(s) set forth through a book that was designed to control masses of people through guilt and fear. This is a new dawn, a new age, and people will not be controlled. You parents did an excellent job of imprinting you as well as whatever institutional learning facilities you may have attended, or home schooled. If these ideas and things in your head are through your own research and life experiences, then please live more, read more, do more, get out there and live life!:heart:


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26502818 - 02/25/20 09:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Thana and Rofl, you 2 can do what you like, but don't try to impose your archaic idealism(s) set forth through a book that was designed to control masses of people through guilt and fear. This is a new dawn, a new age, and people will not be controlled. You parents did an excellent job of imprinting you as well as whatever institutional learning facilities you may have attended, or home schooled. If these ideas and things in your head are through your own research and life experiences, then please live more, read more, do more, get out there and live life!:heart:




Calling people conditioned when you provide a predictable response. It isn’t about controlling people in the sense you meant it. Sex for pleasure has done more long term harm than it has helped. This isn’t my parents saying this but what I have found through experience, observation and research. If you think such attitudes are good then you need to read and get out more. You need to learn why most spiritual paths leave it behind and why.

Maybe humans need to be controlled since they don’t clearly don’t know what’s good for them, but that’s another story.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26502823 - 02/25/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Are you not a human?


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: feldman114]
    #26502827 - 02/25/20 09:34 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I am human but I fail to see the relevance of that remark.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10] * 1
    #26502842 - 02/25/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

You believe you need to be controlled.
As such, it should be your imperative to follow directions.

Put a lightbulb in your pooper. Follow my directions or you “need to read and get out more”.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: feldman114]
    #26502853 - 02/25/20 09:57 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

I didn’t say I believe I need to be controlled I said humans meaning the other ones who don’t see how destructive sex for pleasure is. As a whole I think people need to be controlled because left on their own they will rationalize just about anything


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26502892 - 02/25/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Thanatos10 should move to China, I think he'd like it there.

I honestly really wonder what it is that you do with your time?. Since you're abstaining from any form of hindrance or destruction and almost every recreational activity comes with some hindrance and destruction, what do you do with your self to pass the time if you're not willing to suicide? What activities are worthwhile in this reality? What am I missing out on? Please explain in detail so I can understand.

I don't actually believe that Thanatos10 lives by his words. Maybe he tries, but surely does not adhere 100%.

Right now he's essentially a stubborn chat bot, that no matter what logical input you offer, it's response remains the same, just a recombination of the same words it's been posting since page 1.

What's probably going on is a psychological phenomena where the subject (thanatos10) is 100% resistant to logic, and will stand by his initial position until death. Same exact issue we have with the current USA president, climate change deniers, and such. Basically, the thought of admitting wrong is too painful for them / thanatos10. But they're not aware of this potential pain. It's a defense mechanism, to continually deny logic and support their initial defunct position, until death.

Give this thread another 5 years, Thanatos10 would probably still be here saying the same thing over and over again with nothing more to offer.

ROFL on the other hand, probBly just has a hard time maintaining intimacy with people. His preachy commandments come from a mind of fear and insecurity


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26502906 - 02/25/20 10:31 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

Oh so everyone except monks and you? You do realize how that sounds?

And what’s wrong with rationalizing?


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26502967 - 02/25/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Thana and Rofl, you 2 can do what you like, but don't try to impose your archaic idealism(s) set forth through a book that was designed to control masses of people through guilt and fear. This is a new dawn, a new age, and people will not be controlled. You parents did an excellent job of imprinting you as well as whatever institutional learning facilities you may have attended, or home schooled. If these ideas and things in your head are through your own research and life experiences, then please live more, read more, do more, get out there and live life!:heart:




Calling people conditioned when you provide a predictable response. It isn’t about controlling people in the sense you meant it.




Sex for pleasure has done more long term harm than it has helped.
Maybe for you/in your eyes.





This isn’t my parents saying this but what I have found through experience, observation and research. If you think such attitudes are good then you need to read and get out more. You need to learn why most spiritual paths leave it behind and why.

Usually because they are asexual, gay, or bisexual, or any number of anti social anxieties that can be uncovered with therapy. There is a small % of people that just simply do not enjoy sex, and that's ok, but to try and persuade other people by using guilt trip tactics to not have sex or "see the error of their way" etc....is really silly.






Maybe humans need to be controlled since they don’t clearly don’t know what’s good for them, but that’s another story.




Oh please do tell us you all knowing thanatos,  we must know the secret that you hold within your powerful and all seeing mind on what is good for the whole of humanity.
My "predictable response" is a response to seeing people conditioned to a certain way of thinking/being.


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Re: I have sex with older women, married women, widows and divorcees [Re: Thanatos10]
    #26503014 - 02/25/20 11:45 AM (3 years, 10 months ago)

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Whos paying your bills? If you were concerned with hindrances then you wouldn't be working job and making money to pay your phone or Internet bill ,or any bills for that matter. You'd be outside in the boonies meditating and we'd never have even known that you existed. Sex, to me is purely about enjoyment. It's not about scratching an itch or filling a void. It's a fun activity. Like rock climbing, or snowboarding. Are those hindrances too? Snowboarding costs me money, and it risks my life, should I trancend and quit snowboarding?

By your standards should I be living in a black box trancended to enlightenment, doing nothing? Is that what you do?



That’s a gross misunderstanding as working to earn a living isn’t a hindrance, haven’t you heard of the middle path?

Having sex for enjoyment is scratching an itch, if you’re doing it for fun then you clearly have some issues with your life. Seeking entertainment itself is another problem as well since you are essentially saying the present moment isn’t enough, another problem humans have.




Having sex for enjoyment is great. Just because some people do it irresponsibly doesn't mean most people do. No offense Thanatos but you shouldn't be telling anyone they have issues because they like recreational, satisfying for both parties, sex. You have shared your feelings about being addicted to pain and preferring to be alone. You should be seeking guidance or counseling, not giving it.


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