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Modern Monocropping vs Sustainable Practices, A discussion of the geopolitical implications
    #26490579 - 02/17/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

There are proponents of both schools of thought.

Where do you stand on this issue and why?
Is it a moral issue?
Should this be a data driven discussion?
what say ye?


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Re: Modern Monocropping vs Sustainable Practices, A discussion of the geopolitical implications [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #26490639 - 02/17/20 06:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Both should be flexiable like Gumby....whatever works best; each situation is different.

An example:
In Afganistan we burned, shredded,  roadblocked poppy fields. Gave them a more sustainable alternative (wheat). The outcome was increased poppy crops as a farmer makes triple the income with pods.

Edit: the mistake was, we went after the generational farmer, which created distrust; we also ignored the market.


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Re: Modern Monocropping vs Sustainable Practices, A discussion of the geopolitical implications [Re: SirTripAlot] * 1
    #26491126 - 02/18/20 03:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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SirTripAlot said:
The outcome was increased poppy crops as a farmer makes triple the income with pods.

Edit: the mistake was, we went after the generational farmer, which created distrust; we also ignored the market.





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Re: Modern Monocropping vs Sustainable Practices, A discussion of the geopolitical implications [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #26491371 - 02/18/20 08:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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ballsalsa said:

Where do you stand on this issue and why?




Mostly err on the side of pragmatism with an understanding that we should all push for more sustainable systems of production while maintaining yeilds.

There should be a system of tax deductions/incentives for those who produce some of their own vegetables and a ten or twenty fold higher incentive for those producing in a sustainable way in areas designated as food deserts. 

This would go a long way to getting wholesome nutrition to those who need it most, the poor and disadvantaged, who have a ready supply of processed, shit foods instead of raw, healthy food.  Better nutrition at younger ages would make for a healthier, happier, and better developed (mentally and physically) populace.  A healthier, happier, and better developed populace would, theoretically?, create a cohort that is less of a burden on social services of multiple types as well as costing society less down the line in healthcare costs, for instance.

This type of green new deal would be of vast benefit to our country and americans of all stripes while cutting down on food waste due to spoilage during transit,  I assume.

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When I moved to the country 12 years ago I made a commitment to farm in a sustainable, no pesticide (except insecticidal and fungicidal soaps), no herbicide, no inorganic fertilizer salts way.  Using chickens and rabbits to recycle food waste/scraps and about four years of amending the soil, I was able to overcome the plague of plagues that took over when I first started this regimen.  Now, I almost never need any pest remediation because my plants are healthier and happier due to organic soil amendments, companion cropping, using trap and cover crops, no rototilling, and rotational planting cycles; when healthy, nature finds a way to succeed and provides a delicious, healthy bounty.


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ballsalsa said:
Is it a moral issue?




To me, in the context of what I rambled on about above--remediation of food deserts, incentivizing individual and collective small scale sustainable farming, reducing waste generated via long hauling of products by producing locally, getting wholesome nutrition into the mouths that most need it, etc.--it is a moral issue and one in which we're earning pretty shitty marks presently.

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ballsalsa said:
Should this be a data driven discussion?




Definitely

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ballsalsa said:
what say ye?





Way too much, probably, and much of it redundantly so, likely.

I know this is one of your interests, ballz, and I'm eager to read your input.


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