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Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! * 1
    #26488230 - 02/16/20 11:24 AM (4 years, 10 hours ago)

My previous experience posted here: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26415569 was a little underwhelming and gave me a glimpse into the other side. Folks said it was because I spaced out my almost 4g mushrooms versus taking it all at once. That indeed was true!

I did make a rookie mistake this time by eating a dinner prior versus nothing or lite meal. I dont think that made any difference in absorption but certainly affected my trip. I also added lemon to my tea and what ended up happening, 2.5 hours into my trip was intense heartburn that ended up literally being a "buzz kill". I reckon I had at least another hour of trip left in me. Oh well lesson learned.

The difference in this trip was my first spaced out dosage trip were merely slight visuals but very much grounded in this world still. This time, not only were the visuals so much more intense, but each time I closed my eyes, I would feel this emotion come over me which I then knew, I was about to go on this journey. This emotion was one of wanting more of it...very moving. And each journey was different where I no longer felt tied to this current universe.

Nothing in my journeys or experiences was frightening. Nor did I find anything tied to memories or self prophecies/ego dissolution's etc. One of the reasons for trying psychedelics was to see if I had some unresolved emotional issues around my fathers death when I was still in my teens as well as overcoming some "fear" of death I have. But, nothing along those lines so I suppose that may have been the only slight disappointment as it was purely one of beautiful emotional and fascinating trips. Until my heartburn reared its ugly head!


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Skibike] * 1
    #26488267 - 02/16/20 11:47 AM (4 years, 10 hours ago)

Success! Awesome!

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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Skibike]
    #26488276 - 02/16/20 11:55 AM (4 years, 10 hours ago)

I always have a box of “Rennies” in the cupboard. Heartburn / antacid tablets.

And I keep glucose tablets for nausea relief. Rarely need to use either though; Lemon Tek tea 👍🏻


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26488557 - 02/16/20 03:02 PM (4 years, 6 hours ago)

Agreed, LemonTek for the win. I never get nausea when I use this method.


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Bonstrum] * 1
    #26488859 - 02/16/20 06:28 PM (4 years, 3 hours ago)

Lemon Tek + Empty stomach FTW!


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Toad_Prophet]
    #26489173 - 02/16/20 10:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Maximum Effect Achieved.

Im glad u discovered the secret of shroom dosing OP :mushroom2:


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26490555 - 02/17/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah but think Im not going to take the chance next time with the Lemon. Will just let my body convert the psilocybin naturally.

I do feel comfortable at this dose of GT's doing a trip on my own next time without a sitter. I thnk 5g will definitely catapult me into that other universe the entire time and is probably what I will need for any deeper ego stuff. But Ill do that with a sitter.


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Skibike]
    #26490613 - 02/17/20 06:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

That's awesome to hear man! I love hearing success stories of people getting to where they've wanted to go after failed attempts. Honestly man, you don't even need the lemon. Just get it down, all at once.. brace.. and let the wave soar you into the sunset brother:rockon:

Also - when are you planning on doing 5g?

Mush love.


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26490704 - 02/17/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks Vibe!
After my first trip and the glimpse into the other side, I couldn't wait to do it again at a stronger dose. Now that I had a great trip, its left me satisfied  yet not necessarily fulfilled. So I plan to maybe try again in a couple of months at the 5g dose with a definite stronger intent versus just a simple curiosity.


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Skibike]
    #26491220 - 02/18/20 06:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Awesome man. You're on the right path to an awakening and testing the waters of this beautiful gift we are blessed with (our minds and mushrooms). 5g will be an a great adventure for you. The 4g let you know where it wants you to be, and you're listening.

What was your experience, if you could put it into words? If not, I COMPLETELY understand. Because I too, have felt myself disengage but have also still been grounded by opening my eyes and becoming back in touch with this reality.

But.. closing my eyes and listening to my music on a 4g dose really does seem to bring on this feeling of not feeling my body.. but still knowing who I am and what I took. But, i still was on a journey throughout my mind and surfing the music within my mind.

Very hard to explain!


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26491498 - 02/18/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I get the exact same thing from repeated 3.8g doses 👍🏻

Yes it can be intense, but you can get really far and deep, without the overbearing nature of the 5g+ trips; I save the “heroic” trips for once a year, two years.

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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26492104 - 02/18/20 05:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Vibe
I think how you described it was exactly my experience.
I would open my eyes be aware of my surroundings but then almost uncontrollably want to close them again. If anyone has been under anesthesia, I akin it to that feeling of when the drug starts to take effect and for a couple of seconds you start to feel yourself going under.

My journeys were all different. The emotional aspect was what was so profound compared to the 2g initial hit I took the first time. I would get visuals that were so much more 3 dimensional and deep and then they would just stop almost as if it would just let me feel the emotion. Then a new visual/journey would start.

I listen to Meditation music and honestly without it, the experience would be like night and day for me. I could not imagine doing it without that type of music or music in general, whatever your taste, as it truly seems to guide my trips.

One of my trips I was floating up to the ceiling whilst feeling something pulling me. I broke through and there were these 2 octopus like figures with what I can only describe as female Chinese like entities in the middle of them coming towards me. Was just beautiful. Then another just floating through this 3 dimensional colorful changing scenery. And lots of other visuals of course.

When I would go to the bathroom or kitchen, I certainly felt a little drunk. But 2.5 hours in, my heartburn sobered me up pretty quickly, so it wasn't like I couldn't snap out of it.

This time though, sounds bothered or disturbed me more. My GF had the same experience. Whereas on the 2g, none of that did. I just wanted to be immersed in the music and experience and not be disturbed, so when my GF would move around, it was distracting. I actually wished I was alone even though she didnt move around too much. I cant imagine doing this dosage or more in a non-tranquil setting.

My GF has done a 3g trip and she experienced a lot of the emotion with ZERO CEV's......very bizarre. Just goes to show how different we all are.

I am curious as to what the difference between a 4g vs 5g may be, but Im not afraid now.

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Yes it can be intense, but you can get really far and deep, without the overbearing nature of the 5g+ trips; I save the “heroic” trips for once a year, two years.




Curious what is overbearing about the 5g trips?


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Skibike]
    #26492576 - 02/18/20 09:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Glad to hear that you tried again and got the results you wanted this time :thumbup:


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Skibike]
    #26493203 - 02/19/20 10:51 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Still need to fully embrace the 5g experience; I carry a lot of fear still from decades ago bad trips from insane liberty cap doses! I’ve been repeating a 3.8g dose now for months and have become much more comfortable with “letting go”. I’ve also done all these recent trips alone. I’ve found being alone it is easier to let go, and not get too scared!

Previous. 5g trips I’ve always resisted. It’s taken me quite a while to realise that resistance is counterproductive. That’s why they have been so overbearing for me, because at 5g it takes one hell of a lot of energy to resist and not “die”.

I’ll report back towards the end of this year, when I reckon I’ll be ready to try 5g “properly”, I.e alone and letting go.

My language describing those experiences was with hindsight lazy and misleading, so apologies for that.

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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26493217 - 02/19/20 11:05 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

No apology needed, was just curious.

Maybe being somewhat still connected to this realm makes the difference....I don’t know. I tackled all my journeys with curiosity. I can see where someone who was resistant to finding things out or not having total control may be overwhelmed. In one of my trips I had some almost Smokey dark images appearing in the peripheral of one of my trips and I purposely went to go explore it. Maybe that makes the difference as well as knowing these are mind created experiences.

Having said that, I do not want to get cocky about it as obviously there are real bad trips even had by the experienced.


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Skibike]
    #26494629 - 02/20/20 08:11 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like u got the ideal mindset to handle even rough/difficult trips. Good on you Skibike :thumbup::thumbup:


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Re: Taking 4g all at once vs spaced out was the key! [Re: Skibike]
    #26494889 - 02/20/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Skibike said:
No apology needed, was just curious.

Maybe being somewhat still connected to this realm makes the difference....I don’t know. I tackled all my journeys with curiosity. I can see where someone who was resistant to finding things out or not having total control may be overwhelmed. In one of my trips I had some almost Smokey dark images appearing in the peripheral of one of my trips and I purposely went to go explore it. Maybe that makes the difference as well as knowing these are mind created experiences.

Having said that, I do not want to get cocky about it as obviously there are real bad trips even had by the experienced.




I don’t think you sound cocky. It is too easy to be accused of that, so no problems. Tripping alone has forced me to d=face up to stuff, and that’s how I’ve come to the realisation you describe, that you should confront what is causing you anxiety, ask why it is in your head, explore it, resolve it, let go and move on.

It’s become much easier for me and this is why I now understand why I’ve being doing the 5g wrong!

I changed my signature a while back after these realisations had started to surface in me, with the Michael Pollan quote 👍🏻


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