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Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms
    #26489884 - 02/17/20 12:08 PM (4 years, 5 hours ago)

Hi,

Wanting to not get into a big trip due to borderline paranoia at times and anxiety. So i've decided to try and micro-dose and record everything.

Wanting some information if you feel this is the correct way to go;

I'm going to be doing 0.20g dried every 3rd day (1 day on, 2 days off).

I've got PTSD deep inside me from my childhood which I wish to rewire through meditation and this micro-dosing. Do you think this could work?

Thankyou very much,
Moonblade


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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: Moonblade] * 1
    #26489928 - 02/17/20 12:37 PM (4 years, 5 hours ago)

Sounds like a plan. .2g sounds like a great place to start.

Don’t worry about it if you don’t “feel” anything much. It might take a couple weeks to notice benefits.

If you feel wired or restless after your dose, ignore it and take the same dose next time... if you continue to noticed the awkward edginess, back your dose down to .1g

With microdosing regimines, less is more seems to work best for a lot of people.

I would expect to notice an improved outlook or mood, a bit more patience for frustrating people or tasks, and easier time letting things go, more motivation to do the things you want to do, etc etc


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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: Moonblade] * 1
    #26489947 - 02/17/20 12:44 PM (4 years, 5 hours ago)

Depending on the strength of your cubes, you may need to adjust but that seems about right.

You can go as low a 0.1g. Sometimes I can feel .2-.3g (but I like the feeling). I'll get heightened relaxation, some stomach butterflies and a glow to the world around me.

Putting in the work can make this very effective although everyone is different. I would recommend meditation within 30 minutes to an hour of taking the micro-dose (basically right when it is "kicking in"). This will put you in the space to do work.

As someone who has micro-dosed a lot and dabbled a lot in the 1-2g range, however, I would say a full dose of 3g+ is most effective. Micro-doses can seem like they aren't "working" since they aren't generally felt and the slight effects can be easy to ignore.

From my experience doses feel like this to me (of average strength cubes):

  • 0.1-0.3g - Micro-Dose. Good as an anti-anxiolytic and anti-depressant. Makes me more aware and involved in the moment.

  • 0.4-1g - Very light dose. More than a micro-dose but not enough to go deep without practice and skill. Can be very fun and lighthearted.

  • 1g-2g - Generally puts you in a psychedelic space but isn't overwhelming. Some pretty good space for therapeutic work and reflection with the effort. This range, however, can be very euphoric and produce such a "feel-good high" that the only think one may focus on here is being in that feeling.

  • 2g-3g - The show begins. OEV's, CEV's can become prominent. Feelings of strong emotion arise. The body load begins flooring you. The space where you begin to be pulled inside the mind. The Ego begins really starting to resist in this dosage for some people. A lot of insight can be given to you here.

  • 3-3.5g - A great introduction to the psychedelic experience. Waves range from intensely scary to enlightening to blissful. Your will be in a space where you are both participant and observer of your mind (which is technically just all of life). This is a good dose to "shock" the system into change.

  • 3.5g+ - I've yet to go above 3.5g so I won't speak for what I could or will experience there (But my next dose will be 4g).


Please note, this is all from my experiences. Any dose can be profound, any dose can be terrifying and any dose can end up being just a fun time. But from my experimentation in those ranges, those seemed the consistent factors in my trips (there were many others that were ever-changing).

The best will be to choose how you want to proceed and stick with it. Do not back down when you've decided, that is the ego running away. One of the traumas I deal with in myself is the "running away" reaction that I have when anything challenging presents itself. Thats why I love mushrooms because once you down the dose you can't run away. It has helped me tremendously in facing challenges head on.

Anyway, best of luck and I hope you find what you are searching for :cheers:


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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: Moonblade] * 2
    #26489950 - 02/17/20 12:45 PM (4 years, 4 hours ago)

Take a micro-dose of .2 (as you intended) your first time to dip your toes into what the mushrooms have to offer. As stated above, micro-dosing can help tremendously with you mood and outlook on life.

  You need a regular dose if you really want to overcome trauma that is defining you. On your 3rd day take a dose of 3 grams. The mushrooms, if ingested with this intention, will bring this to the front forcing you to overcome the trauma you need to accept. They allow you to see that this in no way defines you. It was an experience that the only you can allow yourself to move forward with an understanding you are in full control of your emotions, decisions, entire consciousness. Stop putting yourself mentally in a place where you keep going back and reliving the trauma; stop putting yourself in a place where pain gives you pleasure.


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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: Socrateshroom] * 1
    #26489955 - 02/17/20 12:49 PM (4 years, 4 hours ago)

There seems to be a ceiling effect with cubes at 7 grams. I've taken up to a half ounce (14 grams), and went to the same state of existence/awareness. The only exception I've found so  far is with PE. Anything over an 8th (3.5 grams) will get you to the same state; which with PE is a uniquely intense place only this strain has taken me.


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Our word "planet" comes from the Greek word planetes, meaning "wanderer."

"There ain't no revolution, only evolution, but every time I'm in Georgia I eat a peach for peace."
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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: O_Dweeds]
    #26490122 - 02/17/20 02:24 PM (4 years, 3 hours ago)

I tried the 0.2g today, found that it was too much for me as a micro-dose. I'm going to try 0.1g in 3 days.


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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: Moonblade] * 1
    #26490130 - 02/17/20 02:29 PM (4 years, 3 hours ago)

just depends on your tolerance.  .2 is nice but wouldnt really want to be going to work or anything, more a relaxing day at home I'd guess.  .1 seems to be about right im told.


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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: Moonblade] * 1
    #26490198 - 02/17/20 02:52 PM (4 years, 2 hours ago)

Hey Moonblade,

Firstly I can’t believe I’m going to say this in a mushroom forum, and particularly as I have been saying I do not recommend this as a recreational drug.

But why not consider getting hold of some decent mdma crystals Nd a good sitter who is prepared to talk and mainly listen to you for a few hours?

Just something for you to chew on. Mushrooms can be great, for so many things. But mdma would be far easier, and would specifically target what you hope to achieve, that is , to get access to and resolve buried painful memories.

Mush love
DJ Ed


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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26490233 - 02/17/20 03:04 PM (4 years, 2 hours ago)

hey,

Thanks for the response. I've just got this feeling that with meditation and a mind-set I can overcome past trauma etc without the use of all these drugs.


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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: Moonblade] * 1
    #26490240 - 02/17/20 03:06 PM (4 years, 2 hours ago)

Godspeed to you, sir 👍🏻

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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: Moonblade]
    #26491873 - 02/18/20 02:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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O_Dweeds said:
Take a micro-dose of .2 (as you intended) your first time to dip your toes into what the mushrooms have to offer. As stated above, micro-dosing can help tremendously with you mood and outlook on life.

  You need a regular dose if you really want to overcome trauma that is defining you. On your 3rd day take a dose of 3 grams.....






I concur.

I'm a big advocate for the MACRO-dose :yesnod:


Micro-dosing has its place...and anyone can use these tools how ever they wish....but people are really missing out on the full potential of what these tools/medicines have to offer by taking tiny minuscule sub-threshold doses.

There has been so much hype and fluff around microdosing over the recent years, I personally just don't get it :shrug: .







Quote:

Moonblade said:
I tried the 0.2g today, found that it was too much for me as a micro-dose. I'm going to try 0.1g in 3 days.





I'm curious why you felt it was "too much" ?






-OM

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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26491916 - 02/18/20 02:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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There has been so much hype and fluff around microdosing over the recent years, I personally just don't get it :shrug:





I think it is the convenience and the antidepressant/anti-anxiolytic potential. I can micro-dose an hour before work. And I can do it even though i'm working morning to night with no time for a macro-dose :frown:

But I absolutely agree. Macro-Doses are where all of the potential for healing rests. And I actually advise against micro-dosing before experiencing a MACRO-dose. I'm of the mindset that you need to be introduced to this with a proper dose (3.5g or above). This is probably because that is how I experienced it. But after having tried all dose ranges under 3g, I'm glad my first time was a strong eighth. I probably wouldn't have nearly the same outlook if I started with 1g (probably wouldn't be involved with them today).


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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26492011 - 02/18/20 03:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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....And I actually advise against micro-dosing before experiencing a MACRO-dose. I'm of the mindset that you need to be introduced to this with a proper dose (3.5g or above).






I feel the same exact way :yesnod: .

I've always felt people should experience a full dose and become familiar with what they're actually working with before micro-dosing. I've always suggested people should have at least a mild trip before micro-dosing.

I also feel there is a lot of placebo-effect at play with micro-dosing...but what ever works, works :shrug: .

(that's not to say micro-dosing doesn't have any real action or benefit to offer...I just feel there is a lot of placebo going on in some cases).





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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: openmind]
    #26492097 - 02/18/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

Socrateshroom said:
....And I actually advise against micro-dosing before experiencing a MACRO-dose. I'm of the mindset that you need to be introduced to this with a proper dose (3.5g or above).






I feel the same exact way :yesnod: .

I've always felt people should experience a full dose and become familiar with what they're actually working with before micro-dosing. I've always suggested people should have at least a mild trip before micro-dosing.

I also feel there is a lot of placebo-effect at play with micro-dosing...but what ever works, works :shrug: .

(that's not to say micro-dosing doesn't have any real action or benefit to offer...I just feel there is a lot of placebo going on in some cases).





-OM

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There is definitely a degree of placebo effect going on (that is why I like to microdose .3g as I actually get very slight effects). And I don’t micro dose often anymore but sometimes I know I won’t have an opportunity to have the time and space for a real dose for a while so I play around with micro doses and low doses until I can plan for a full dose.

Anyway, I don’t even think people should go below 3g of average cubes on their first time. I think a 1g dose would be a disservice as they may just feel “high”. I like the 1.5g to 2g dose here and there if I don’t have the set and setting but I’m always left yearning for a deeper experience.

Like Terrence Mckenna said, if you’re worried you’ve done too much than you haven’t done enough!


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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: openmind] * 1
    #26492176 - 02/18/20 05:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

O_Dweeds said:
Take a micro-dose of .2 (as you intended) your first time to dip your toes into what the mushrooms have to offer. As stated above, micro-dosing can help tremendously with you mood and outlook on life.

  You need a regular dose if you really want to overcome trauma that is defining you. On your 3rd day take a dose of 3 grams.....






I concur.

I'm a big advocate for the MACRO-dose :yesnod:


Micro-dosing has its place...and anyone can use these tools how ever they wish....but people are really missing out on the full potential of what these tools/medicines have to offer by taking tiny minuscule sub-threshold doses.

There has been so much hype and fluff around microdosing over the recent years, I personally just don't get it :shrug: .







Quote:

Moonblade said:
I tried the 0.2g today, found that it was too much for me as a micro-dose. I'm going to try 0.1g in 3 days.





I'm curious why you felt it was "too much" ?






-OM

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  I viewed micro-dosing the same way. However, I've found these tools have a wide range of use. Such as using a hammer, sometimes you need to swing it full force & sometimes you need to tap it in. With a serious wall, it's going to take some serious force. With daily anxiety, depression, a tap done right can snap you out of it.
"Give it a little tappy, tap tap, taparoo."


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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26493214 - 02/19/20 11:01 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Let’s hope this “placebo effect” is not the same as happened with the SSRI placebo effect when they were introduced in the 80s. Apparently they worked like magic at first, with all the hype surrounding them. Not so effective these days, now that hype has worn off.

Similarly, hope the reported successes from microdosing are not through this initial hyped up placebo effect.

All that said, though, a program in the UK, Horizon, had an episode a while ago on placebo. Apparently, even if you are told a pill is a placebo, 47% of the time you will still get the intended effect!

I tried that same hypothesis last “Stoptober” (October!). I bought some alcohol free beer and drank a few hoping I’d get placebo drunk. They tasted great but not the slightest buzz at all lol....

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Re: Micro-dosing Golden Teacher Mushrooms [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26494147 - 02/19/20 09:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I don’t have much of anything to add in the form of advice of dosages and regimens; I would just like to send you my prayers(if you’re into that kind of thing), positive thoughts, and support. I, too, suffer from CPTSD stemming from my early youth and up until my early teenage years: substantial sexual, physical, verbal, and emotional abuse, along with about 3 years of severe ostracization by my peers at the time. I attempted suicide at the age of 14 and was narrowly unsuccessful.

I truly applaud you in your efforts to get to the bottom of all this and to come out a better and more whole individual. That takes courage and strength; so many instead choose the suffer in silence and allow their inner demons to slowly bring them down and eventually define them as human beings. I know how hard it can be to take the path towards healing, and I wish you all of the best in your efforts.

Love yourself, because you are most certainly worth it.


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