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Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period * 3
    #26488158 - 02/16/20 10:33 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

(TL;DR: Had a shitty trip? Feel unfulfilled? Add another gram to your tek dose the next day and right all the previous trip's wrongs.)

Trip report below.

So, all over the web I've seen declarations that there is simply no way one can have a fulfilling second trip the day after the first due to tolerance, and one would need at least a double dose to feel anything at all. This is bullshit.

Perhaps it may be so for high tolerance trippers with no deeper intention, but if you're in any kind of serious shamanic work or are sensitive to shrooms, you'll be fine.

On Valentine's evening I took 2g dried Golden Teacher in a lemon tek. I had last taken 2g Penis Envy about two weeks prior, hoo boy - that's another story. This GT tek lead to a very frustrating, uncomfortable trip that had few visuals (which are very important to me) and even less coherent thought and a constant feeling of "Something is missing" and "Why did I do this to myself?" Despite then feeling very wistful and not ready to leave as the trip subsided. It was all just "off" and extremely unsatisfying.

The next day I had to make a phonecall about some familial issues I had been dreading (and a reason I tekked in the first place, to work everything out) it affected me to a point that I had to lie down in the grass and gasp for air. It felt like picking a thick, nasty scab off my heart Chakra. I felt worse after the call if anything, and felt desperately like I needed to revisit the shrooms to work through it all.

Every post I visited about the matter advised me not to, especially if having a bad day, that I'd have no visuals or a generally shitty time - in each post there was at least one person professing that they've tripped multiple days in a row with no worries.

I was in terrible pain from a migraine and the virtues of womanhood. I also looked into this and noted many women advised against tripping whilst menstruating. I said fuck it to all of this.

I prepared a 3.5g lemon tek with the last of my Golden Teachers. This happened at 3AM due to the time it took for me to decide whether I'd even take it, and preparing my house to do so. I politely told the mixture that I needed to heal, I danced for it emphatically as I waited for the tek time to pass - both to raise my own mood and entertain the mushrooms - said "Skol!" to Odin and took the shot.

What followed was the most phenomenal, nurturing, rejuvenating trip I've ever experienced. Everything was pure decadence. Fascinating closed-eye visuals and textile sensations and extremely comfortable and mirthful in bed whereas I'm usually extremely restless and wind up in very strange positions when I lie down while tripping. The electricity went out and made way for open eye visuals which I can only describe as "Kawaii" - comforting, adorable pastel stars and sweets and trinkets with Japanese styled cartoon faces. It's not a style I'm particularly interested in; it felt more like the mushrooms knew what is universally cute and sweet and wanted to generate it - I felt babied by the trip in a good way; brought down to infantile wonder and delight. I was immersed in overwhelming love and gratitude to a point that I thanked these adorable little visuals for simply existing and being there with me.

That dreadful, scab-picked feeling in my heart healed. I laughed. I cried.

All my verbal appreciation throughout this process seemed to excite the cute kaleidoscope into filling every surface of the house in iridescent eyes interwoven with patterns of such infinite complexity one could spend the whole trip in awe of a single corner.  Everything was punctuated by an ever-growing wonder and thankfulness. I felt a strange honour and privilege in what I was experiencing and the more audible thanks and veneration I gave to the shrooms, the more beautiful things became, the more appreciative I was.

I knew it's a good idea to ask mushrooms things, but I simply couldn't. All I could manage to say to them was "Wow. WOW! You're exquisite. Thank you so much."

Going outside in the twilight, overlooking the rolling green hills and silhouetted treeline on the farmstead I live on, was like being reborn - like watching the whole world come into being for the first time. I felt overwhelmingly in the presence of the deity I cheered as I began the trip, in ways I can't begin to explain. I was surprisingly mobile - able to climb a short but steep hill and hang off a fence to watch mystical eyes roll through the fields and trees whereas I can usually hardly make it to the kitchen for tea on a trip.

Throughout all this, I wasn't even aware I had a uterus, let alone cramps.

Morning rolled in with utter peace and comfort, I went back to bed and delighted in mushing my Maine Coon's face fur around (cats ARE liquid!) - at no point was it jarring for the journey to end and I never got that awful, wistful homesick feeling one can get when sobering up. I got everything I needed and then some. I can handle it now - "it" being anything. I feel like I broke out of a depression or apathy with existence I didn't fully realize I was even suffering. Something clicked. There is still fresh wonder and gratitude for the world today.

Mushrooms are medicine. If you need them, TAKE THEM! Having a really shitty day and being in an awful mood, in pain, all of the above, just gives the shrooms more to transmute. Take them when you need them most, and they will give you their all.

Happy tripping, and don't take rumours and the experience of others as gospel.


Edited by Coulrophany (02/19/20 03:38 AM)


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany] * 4
    #26488173 - 02/16/20 10:42 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I've tripped a few days in a row. People are just weird noobs with drugs sometimes


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26488179 - 02/16/20 10:49 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I’m glad you had such a great experience. But, You have been in the wrong parts of the internet, for some of us, you are preaching to the choir.

I agree with your sentiment that occasionally following a trip, there can be a funky mood and that taking another dose soon afterward can be the exact thing you need. For me, a gram over my last trip is usually enough to do it two days in a row, especially on the lower end of the dosing spectrum.

I don’t usually talk a lot about it, or recommend it often because, not everyone’s biology and psychology works the same. Some people, at some times would do better with a longer cool down period( pun intended), or more time to reflect rather than another trip so soon after.

Again, I am happy for you and welcome to The Shroomery! Good first post and hope to see more of you.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26488187 - 02/16/20 10:55 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Wow what an amazing trip; mushrooms do know when to be kind to you. Some of my most mystical and satisfying trips come after sh1tty trips.

I never believe the rumours, either ✊🏻

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26488188 - 02/16/20 10:56 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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I've tripped a few days in a row. People are just weird noobs with drugs sometimes




:whathesaid:

I tripped last Tuesday thru Friday. Also I did 1.5g of ape for almost 30days straight. Some people are indeed weird noobs with drugs:lol:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26488202 - 02/16/20 11:03 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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Again, I am happy for you and welcome to The Shroomery! Good first post and hope to see more of you.




Thank you, Shr00m! I've been lurking for a little while and thought it time to contribute.

Actually, most of the posts I found advising against tripping twice were on this very forum, which is why I decided to leave the information here - glad to see it's not as uncommon knowledge as it seemed. Hopefully this still helps a new psychonaut who read the posts I did.

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I've tripped a few days in a row. People are just weird noobs with drugs sometimes




:whathesaid:

I tripped last Tuesday thru Friday. Also I did 1.5g of ape for almost 30days straight. Some people are indeed weird noobs with drugs:lol:




Wow! What were your doses Tuesday - Friday? How did you feel physically/mentally after? During your 1.5g run, did your experience diminish at all per trip?


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany] * 2
    #26488212 - 02/16/20 11:10 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

2 to 3g of good cubes. Nothing crazy. I listened to heavy metal and did my usual thing.

try it yourself and find out. I cant tell you how you would react.

What's the worst that could happen? Maybe youll go insane.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26488214 - 02/16/20 11:10 AM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Awesome report OP.

Been tripping on 3.5g every Friday, like clockwork, for a couple of months. Lemon tek’d 2g last Monday just to test a new batch and crossed over for 3-4 hours with much stronger than usual visuals.

Mushrooms are a forever mystery.:shrug:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: feldman114]
    #26488302 - 02/16/20 12:06 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I’ve just done a 2.5g dose a week after a super super strong 3.8g dose!. It was sublime 👍🏻


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26488356 - 02/16/20 12:40 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

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I’ve just done a 2.5g dose a week after a super super strong 3.8g dose!. It was sublime 👍🏻




Gosh, a lower dose even? That's very cool to hear. My supplier claims to have developed a hybrid of Golden Teacher and Penis Envy he has dubbed Supernova - I haven't found any solid information on such a hybridization so I'm half skeptical and half excited, but this makes me think I may not have to wait too long before testing them out as I previously assumed. I wonder how much taking different types of shroom in succession affects tolerance and experience. I'll be sure to take photos and write a report when I receive them.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26489370 - 02/17/20 03:19 AM (4 years, 15 hours ago)

Sure you can trip several days in a row. You might want to slightly up the dose due to tolerance.
Most of the time it's very beneficial. You just enter the same place that you left the day before.


Hybridization is nothing magical.
Just add spores of two different varieties into the same spawn bag/jar and most likely some hybrids will grow showing traits of both varieties.
You simply inoculate not only with one, but with two different syringes, that's it basically.

Stabilizing the new hybrid's traits over several generations is the main work.

There is a thread about this topic in the cultivation subforum.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26489426 - 02/17/20 04:43 AM (4 years, 14 hours ago)

Gt crossed with PE isn't a hybrid anyway. They're the same species. That's like saying a oreo kid is a hybrid of black and white people. Its a varietal hybrid which isn't a hybrid at all. It's just a kid

GT x PE is still just psilocybin cubensis at the end of the day


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26489435 - 02/17/20 04:53 AM (4 years, 14 hours ago)

Allright!

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26489440 - 02/17/20 04:59 AM (4 years, 14 hours ago)

I prefer to just call them variety crosses or just new varieties. Like Rusty whyte. That's aa+ and crs by pastywhyte. It's just called RW now.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26489450 - 02/17/20 05:06 AM (4 years, 14 hours ago)

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Hybridization is nothing magical.




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Gt crossed with PE isn't a hybrid anyway.





Have either of you tried GT x PE? I found PE to be a completely different animal to GT trip-wise: I wouldn't have imagined that they're the same species even by appearance.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26489461 - 02/17/20 05:25 AM (4 years, 13 hours ago)

PE is just a mutant lineage of cubensis. They're stronger per gram than most other cubes


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26489566 - 02/17/20 07:39 AM (4 years, 11 hours ago)

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I've tripped a few days in a row. People are just weird noobs with drugs sometimes




I don't think its that cut and dry, nor do I think someone is a n00b for not wanting to play it fast-and-loose with their fitness and health. First off, most people who trip, me included, have noticed that when you take any sort of hallucinogen, your body builds up tolerance absurdly fast. That's obvious, and we all know it. But these drugs, particularly the ones that are VERY HARD on your digestive system and your cardiovascular system, invariably have some negative effects on the human body.

I remember when I was in my '20s, had a massive LSD trip on a weekend day, and had such a great time I wanted to do it again. Of course, not knowing that tolerance builds up almost immediately, so day 2, same dose, almost zero effect other than a trippy buzz.

But doubling the dose, or adding whatever is necessary to blow past that temporary tolerance, is a dubious plan at best. I like my body. I lift weights heavily, log a lot of miles on my bicycle, keep my bodyfat at 10% or under, and I try to take care of the ONE body that I will ever have in my life.

Not judging anyone else, and if people want to start hammering their bodies with double-doses, or whatever is needed, to blast past the temporary tolerance to trip two days in a row, then Godspeed. But, using me as an example, I am no "tripping n00b" just because I like to take care of my body. I think this is especially true when you are talking about the various natural substances, like shrooms, cacti, peyote buttons, HBW and MG seeds, etc. The toxins in these plants are very bad for you. There's a reason why we get sick when we take them. But, we deal with the risks and the fact that everyone has a vice.

But I think its prudent, if one is going to experiment, that care should be taken, and respect for both the substances we ingest and our bodies should at least be a factor in the decision.

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I agree with your sentiment that occasionally following a trip, there can be a funky mood and that taking another dose soon afterward can be the exact thing you need.




This I can agree with, emphasis on the word "occasionally," of course.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26489577 - 02/17/20 07:49 AM (4 years, 11 hours ago)

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I’ve just done a 2.5g dose a week after a super super strong 3.8g dose!. It was sublime 👍🏻




From a physiologic standpoint, a week should be plenty of time to lose most of the tolerance to hallucinogens one has built up from one trip. There will still be some residual tolerance, but not the same as tripping two days in a row and having to really bump up the dose.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26489598 - 02/17/20 08:13 AM (4 years, 11 hours ago)

According to reports, ayahuasca can be taken daily without a reduction in dose, not to mention vaporized DMT.

My personal experience has been that with acid, I will have greatly diminished effects if I try to dose the day after, or even up to a week after it seems just. “Meh”. With shrooms, weekly is no problem and I can do two days in a row without doubling to get a similar intensity. Maybe a gram or two more. I haven’t tried 3days in a row. I also have a good amount of experience redosing over a single session. Some people claim that it only extends the trip. I think they are doing it wrong.
But, mostly I think tolerance affects people in different ways. There are general rules, but specific examples vary too widely for me to be definitive on thus subject.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26489620 - 02/17/20 08:35 AM (4 years, 10 hours ago)

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nor do I think someone is a n00b for not wanting to play it fast-and-loose with their fitness and health.






Lol fast and loose. Mushroom use bad for your health? Explain please because that's misleading and ignorant.


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