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TokeItUp12
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Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet?
#26488655 - 02/16/20 04:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm curious if anyone has been influenced to pick up a vegan or vegetarian diet through psychedelic experiences?
I was vegetarian well before I tried any traditional psychedelics (shrooms and acid) but I feel like cannabis-induced states have strongly influenced me to switch. For me, it was the enhanced perspective that cannabis gives me that made me question my diet.
Part of the reason cannabis influenced me to switch to vegetarian was that the enhanced perspective made me sensitive to the harsh realities of the world and I got hung up on how cruel most animal- agriculture is all across the globe. Additionally, cannabis gives me more vivid senses like smell and so the smell of meat just really started to smell like rotting flesh to me.
Now, my current psychedelic experiences really solidify my previous decision to go vegetarian. Has this happened to anyone else?
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: TokeItUp12]
#26488666 - 02/16/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lol, I shouldn’t comment.
I have been 100% convinced of my vegan ethic by drugs many, many times.
Then, the shrooms wear off and I get hungry for meat again.
So, to your actual question, that’s a no for me.
Food Inc documentary convinced me to give up meat too.
Except, then, god made bacon. I am pretty sure we are supposed to eat it. Why else would it be so delicious?
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26488677 - 02/16/20 04:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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If I thought, even for a second, that my eating habits could change the harsh realities of how Big Meat operates, I’d go vegetarian today. But that’s a pipe dream.
Big Meat
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26488685 - 02/16/20 04:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shr00mEater said: Except, then, god made bacon. I am pretty sure we are supposed to eat it. Why else would it be so delicious?
The form of shamanism I'm in the process of being initiated into holds that pork "closes the third eye" or detrimentally affects the pineal gland. We're not allowed to eat it at all after initiation, forever. You have to pay for that deliciousness!
pleaseeatallthebaconforme
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Coulrophany]
#26488710 - 02/16/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I suppose I am fucked then.
But, really, all I really know is that a lot of people believe a lot of different things. Which actually sucks for me. I have been wasting my life trying to believe less things overall. 
I respect your commitment to principles. And your ability to hold your own views, I wish I could. However, IMO, i think that sounds just a bit wacky for my tastes.
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26488738 - 02/16/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I try to believe less and know more. If I experience it, I can hold true to it. I notice I have far less dreams, especially prophetic or meaningful ones, while eating a lot of pork and it takes a while to come right again - so it is known. To be fair, shamanism IS pretty wacky, but when we're solving serious problems that modern medicine can't comprehend, I don't mind the details or sticking to rules.
The tribe training me eats meat - they don't have the terrain, weather or knowledge for effective farming and animal trade is essential to their culture. Every last part of the animal is used, deeply respected and they know how to deliver an almost instant death. Animals used are generally dreamed of in precise detail by a shaman involved, and it is then tracked down - sometimes miles away in an otherwise unknown location. It is always calm and willingly comes forward and there is an eerie sense of knowing within it. Since partaking in this sacred ceremonial meat, I feel very uncomfortable buying it from the store and do my best not to anymore - although I seem to be the type that needs occasional meat to function properly.
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Coulrophany]
#26488790 - 02/16/20 05:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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That sounds like an amazing experience! what brought you to become so interested in shamanism so much that you are living in primitive conditions?
I am a hedonist and a glutten without an ounce of shame. So, it’s hard for me to relate.
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26488811 - 02/16/20 06:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have no problem focusing on a diet of plants. But I also have no issue eating animals. Fish especially is extremely healthy and easy to digest protein (mercury issues though with some species to watch for).
That said, I think respect is essential, and how tribes will try to use every portion of the animal really resonates with me.
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26488833 - 02/16/20 06:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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A little something known as Shamanic Illness or Calling Sickness - it is the initiation before the initiation. One cannot become this sort of shaman out of interest - you are called upon and generally you can answer or suffer and die. No one goes looking for it. I lived in perpetual torture for ten years with no help from modern medicine, scans, surgeries. My ailments were all physical until they broke me and culminated in shamanic psychosis several years ago that lasted six months - that strangely seems to be a constant time frame for these episodes among others who endure it. My family, friends and I didn't know what to make of the episode, especially after all the prophecies I spouted madly at the time came to pass exactly three years later. There were suspicions but they weren't brought up to me out of fear. I lost my Catholic friends. Last year I was finally discovered by a shaman, the first foreigner to be trained by the tribe; she explained my illness and laid out my path. My remaining friends and family finally accepted it. I have been getting better ever since, and my life and illness finally make sense.
The tribe is VERY primitive - there is no electricity, let alone wifi. I'm obviously not there at the moment; once I am, there's no going home until graduation, which can take months to a year or even more for the very unlucky. No touching anyone during training and no sex for a year afterward.
You would hate it thoroughly.
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26488842 - 02/16/20 06:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think the reflective state psychedelics generally encourage are conducive to an extent to changing one's diet in that manner if one is so inclined to philosophize/contemplate on the matter.
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Toad_Prophet]
#26488880 - 02/16/20 06:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I knew I should have just kept walking...
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26488883 - 02/16/20 06:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Too much, eh? You asked!
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Coulrophany]
#26488942 - 02/16/20 07:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Meditation and research and fasting all seem to have lead to the same conclusion. Once vegetarianism or veganism feels normal, meat seems unnecessary, & often unattractive.
Same as what many find after quitting smoking tobacco. Then smoking seems unnecessary, & often unattractive.
Same principle with many 'things'.
But no big deal.
Doesn't have to be a moral issue.
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: laughingdog]
#26488962 - 02/16/20 07:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I’ve never gotten the message to stop eating meat, maybe because at the time there were bigger issues at play (it’s been years since I’ve tripped) but I have had three distinct times when I was shown something that to be honest I already knew but was able to bullshit myself into ignoring.
Shrooms showed me convincingly how I needed to quit cigarettes. Salvia showed me how much damage alcohol does to your mind and a weak ayahuasca tea gave me sort of a full body scan and zeroed in on my intestines and what kratom was doing to them. The last one was different in that it wasn’t about quitting but need to rethink my approach to how I was using kratom.
For someone who has never had the experience it can sound kind of foolish but there really is a ‘profoundness’ to when these messages get delivered. You can’t argue it nor do you really feel the need to, it’s just
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Coulrophany]
#26488966 - 02/16/20 07:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Coulrophany said: Too much, eh? You asked!
LoL, no I’m cool. You’re right, I did ask. I understand we are all on our own trips. I’m the last person who should criticize the way other people see the world. I mean, the way I see things is fairly grim, I’m pretty sure we are all going to die in the end.
I do have other reasons for getting sketched a bit, specifically, this topic looks like a powder keg waiting for someone’s short fuse to come along. LoL, TPE has been rowdy as fuck lately.
For anyone observing and is new, here is an online community survival tip of the day: just assume everyone is already always right about everything. No need to try and convince them otherwise. It will keep you out of many unnecessary emotional arguments. It doesn’t matter if they are wrong. Focus on the positive feedback instead.
Not to imply that differing voices shouldnt be heard, speech is free and people should be encouraged to voice strong opinions strongly even to the point of someone else not liking it. Different opinions and robust exchange is healthy for any society, so if some people don’t like your opinions, that’s ok, you don’t like all of their opinions either.
Anyway, nice to meet you coulrophony! I appreciate your candor and tact.
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: InfiniteDreams]
#26489018 - 02/16/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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InfiniteDreams said: I have no problem focusing on a diet of plants. But I also have no issue eating animals. Fish especially is extremely healthy and easy to digest protein (mercury issues though with some species to watch for).
That said, I think respect is essential, and how tribes will try to use every portion of the animal really resonates with me.
I'm with ya on this one. I'm just honestly disgusted by how most people blindly eat / waste animal products without paying any respect to the animal itself. For people who want to hunt and fish for their meals, all the power to you. I think if the average meat eater had to kill their meal they would think different about it.
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: TokeItUp12]
#26489322 - 02/17/20 02:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quite the contrary, actually. One of my heaviest trips I was reminded that my particular biological shell requires animal fuel. I was vegetarian for a long time and always sick, tired, irritable, despite my diet being spot on. My blood type requires more. My health, strength, focus, and determination for life and goals have soared ever since. Long live the glorious mushroom!
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: Loaded Shaman]
#26489471 - 02/17/20 05:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've definitely started gravitating towards vegetarianism due to LSD.
I noticed that eating low-carb (which is usually a meat heavy diet) dulls the effects of LSD drastically and eating carbs increases the efficiency of the effects - brighter/clearer trips, more ego-dissolution etc, all round a more full spectrum experience. I think that long-term adaptation could help but noticing this effect made me deeply question how it can be a good diet if it blocks the effects of a sacrament so powerfully and eating carbs increases the effects so easily.
I still eat meat but much less than before, like once a day rather than 3x. I don't like eggs or much cheese so have started to include more milk in my diet as B-12 is essential and I don't like taking supplements.
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Re: Has psychedelics influenced anyone to switch to vegetarian diet? [Re: psysearch]
#26489499 - 02/17/20 05:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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No way I could ever!
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