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Offlinegreenbeanmachine
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Importing San Pedro seedlings to UK
    #26488566 - 02/16/20 03:10 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I am aware that importing San Pedro/other trichocereus seedlings to the UK is unambiguously legal, however I have also heard anecdotal online reports of things like caapi vine being seized by customs, followed by a visit from a policeman and/or a search warrant for the delivery address (despite no rigorous legal basis for this). Despite the issue being easily defensible legally, I would prefer to keep my head down to avoid hassle, among other reasons. Once again getting information from online reports, customs often seem to be extremely misinformed about these sorts of issues and I wouldn’t want them to get the wrong impression.

Has anyone got experience of importing live cactus seedlings to the UK? Any issues?

It may be worth mentioning that:
-My question is in reference to importing them from the EU
-Importing peyote is slightly more complicated due to its endangered status, and so cases involving peyote may not be 100% applicable to this situation

Thanks for your help


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Re: Importing San Pedro seedlings to UK [Re: greenbeanmachine]
    #26488616 - 02/16/20 03:46 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

I don’t see why not.


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Re: Importing San Pedro seedlings to UK [Re: ft116]
    #26488619 - 02/16/20 03:47 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

Where are you based?
If it’s in the USA it might
Be a bit trickier with customs.


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Re: Importing San Pedro seedlings to UK [Re: ft116]
    #26488689 - 02/16/20 04:43 PM (4 years, 1 day ago)

You will probably be fine, but if i was in your situation i would order seeds.

Your gonna pay 5x-10x(maybe more) the price for ~6-12 months off growth.

I don't see the benefits of buying seedlings when seeds are far cheaper.

I am not in the EU, but every seed order i have placed overseas has arrived safely. Its really up to you, but seeds are much easier to get through customs.


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Re: Importing San Pedro seedlings to UK [Re: BabylonRuleDem]
    #26489079 - 02/16/20 09:13 PM (4 years, 19 hours ago)

I see two options with customs.

You can jump through all the hoops of importing and licensing, which in the USA is PPQ587, phytosanitary certificates, port of entry, etc. Or, you can roll the dice. Technically its a crime to import/export seeds or plant materials into the USA without kissing the king's ring, but its very rarely enforced.

I can't speak for the United Kingdom, but more than likely its the same process but with different forms and probably just as expensive. Jumping through the hoops would need a several hundred dollar order to justify.

Importing live cactus rolls into CITES territory, except for Pereskia and TMK, grafted / monstrose / variegated, but don't quote me on anything after "TMK". Seeds are a much better option with Trichocereus, since you can get several thousand and have a 5-10" graft in six months. Most of the grafts I did back somewhere around July-September of 2019 are in that range now and would be perfectly fine to de-graft, but I'm letting them milk the stock until they spit out some air roots.

Some countries are more scrutinized than others, which is why I never order anything from The Netherlands.

TL;DR, avoid The Netherlands and stick to seeds, Trichocereus grows super fast and will double or triple in size every year if you are treating them right.


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OfflineTramontane.STS
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Re: Importing San Pedro seedlings to UK [Re: greenbeanmachine]
    #26624853 - 04/24/20 02:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It's legal to import them to the UK.
As with all other plants which contain psychoactive compounds, excluding catha edulis and coca plants, you can legally posses them as long as they are not in a prepared state for consumption ie. dried powder


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