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Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms?
#26488586 - 02/16/20 03:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hello,
I was raised in a quite disturbing household with my father being an alcoholic and very angry all the time.. I feel that i've developed anxiety and PTSD from certain experiences at such a young age. I am now 22 years of age and away from home. So i've just got ahold of 14g of golden teacher mushrooms. I am planning to do this trip at night, on my own, pitch silence, pitch quiet room. With the intention of going inward and facing if it be demons or fears, trauma of my past etc.
Wanting to get some insight on if I should be doing this or not? If so.. How much should I be consuming? Also any tips would be much appreciated!
Thank you very much, Moonblade
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Moonblade] 1
#26488638 - 02/16/20 04:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I think it may be best you ease into this journey slowly - start with 1g or even less to gauge your sensitivity before deciding on a working dose, or keep upping each dose gradually. It may take several sessions before you're ready to tackle that rough stuff and it's good to just 'meet' the shrooms first before you deep dive.
If you're intent on going big or going home, at least find a trustworthy sitter.
Best of luck.
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Moonblade] 1
#26488642 - 02/16/20 04:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe not all 14g at once.
If you are already this aware of the potential for a strong confrontation with self...
Then, buckle up! You are in for a ride! Just remember you will come down eventually, and no one ever died from too much shrooms.  
How about try 3g and go where the trip leads you with open eyes and open heart?
Don’t expect healing in one go. It can/does/will happen that way, but it’s also a process. Demons lurk where you can’t see, and sometimes, when you first see them, they are hard to recognize and fear may take hold. This will either, fully or partially resolve during the trip or it will go another direction entirely. Occasionally, there are lingering feelings, good or bad, after a trip. that’s ok too. It’s normal, Just relax as much as is realistic and focus on just simply paying attention to the experience as it is happening. That tip works in real life too.
A heroic dose is good. But, based on what you share of your experience, You might consider a weekly session for awhile before going for a big dose. Maybe, 3g this time, Same again next time, then if you feel a need, then go to 5g after that. Or, I always am able to enjoy 2g as a taste tester dose with shrooms of unknown potency. After that, judging an appropriate dose is much easier.
When seeking the ghosts of the past courage is needed, even demanded at times. But, I am recommending you take it a bit slow at first, get used to swimming in the water before attempting a deep dive.
Try to be open, don't expect anything, except to find out what the shrooms are capable of, like test driving a car. After that, if you like what they do, you can grow your own and eat moar shrooms 4ever!!!!
And please don’t forget to have a little fun on your soul search, there are really good reasons why shrooms are used recreationally too.
Post back anytime, you are going to be o.k.
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26488657 - 02/16/20 04:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thank you very much for your responses! I plan to weigh out 3g dried and try that first and see how it goes. Would this process actually help with my PTSD or anxiety in the long run though or could it become worse?
Very nervous as i've experienced paranoia before after abusing LSD when I was younger.
Thank you.
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Moonblade] 1
#26488772 - 02/16/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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In the long run, I am always an optimist, Short term, it could get worse before it gets better. If stuff is deep seated, when it starts coming loose, it could be uncomfortable or difficult. And afterward, you do see it more clearly, and that can increase anxiety or other emotional responses. You may not have fully grieved your loss, or have hidden anger that could catch you by surprise. Have a day or two scheduled off after the trip to recover.
I know I am making it sound scarier than it is, I just don’t want you to think you are getting a magic pill that makes you normal.
Lots of people have been ravaged by the healing power of shrooms. It can hurt a lot and for a long time, but remember how long you have groped in this darkness? It’s like the burning sensation on the eye when seeing light for the first time. Temporarily blinded and suffering, but soon the pain fades away to be replaced with a landscape of color and beauty.
Don’t be nervous. Are you on any meds? OTC drugs? Proper health in general?
If you wanted a doctors opinion, I’m not one. And I don’t suppose you would be holding a bag of shrooms right now if you did want a psychologists help.
Shrooms are amaze balls. They have not let me down yet, and I am as insane as I ever was, so don’t worry. Paranoid is almost the name my mom gave me at birth. Anxiety, depression and possible PTSD from home life? Hell yeah! My parents were in a cult just before I was born! Isn’t life a crazy roller coaster? It’s amazing that anyone of us made it out alive!
There are way worse things to be scared of than the monsters in your head. You are going to have a great time, I am just in a poetic mood tonight.
Why not 2g and post up here if you need reassurance? 2g, first time? you prob just going to laugh your ass off and forget you had a parental unit called father. Way more interesting things going on in trip land than to be occupied with therapy. Lol
After you trip, come back and read this post. It will seem more appropriate or less confusing.
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26488850 - 02/16/20 06:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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In the end, your life is a lie and anything to do with drugs sounds like a dream. Once you do them, you can't go back, and that's known from the start. They can kill you, it's not "suicide", in fact, doing them is almost giving "the universe" permission to do anything it wants, including harm. They aren't always healing, and can sometimes hurt your physical health.
Young pieces of shit who don't have their life together, are probably homeless, and slackers or crybabies think they make you knowledgeable, but they don't. That's mostly based on their own faulty perception of reality, which their angst and frustration makes them unable to accept how reality, or life, really works. They use the first thing on their mind as proof they are right in hopes in means they lay some claim to intuition, but they're merely short sighted, or have their mind warped by drugs (hallucinogens) that makes them only acceptable around other addicts and habitual psychoactive substance abusers.
Then they use something like weed as a gateway drug to do more hardcore drugs and actual psychedelics since cannabis (marijuana) is considered a mild one. Mushrooms aren't hard to get but if you follow Terence McKenna you could lose your sight with other psychedelics, even salvia. If you do mushrooms there's no point not smoking weed too then but some say they just get anxiety. A mushroom setup costs less than a thousand dollars, and if you have a closet you could grow some. In the end, it's just jealousy because some who do mushrooms can't do acid and vice versa. But, personal history of use is discarded, and others only focus on the now, so whatever you're doing by other people is considered what you know, and they expect your best at all times.
People used to only do acid or mushrooms once, but the same psychedelics taught me how people evolve or "adapt." When they see you use weed, it makes them think of doing mushrooms or LSD. It isn't that visual because they go away after a while, especially with quick follow up use, so that the effect is weaker by tolerance.
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Blabble40] 1
#26488912 - 02/16/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hi Blabble40, you doing alright today? Glad to see you posting and being so helpful.
Moonblade, Don’t worry about trying too hard to make sense of the other 50pct of his post that didn’t quite make sense. he is very well intentioned, and quite lucid today, a resident example of what can happen if you take too much drugs. I like to think of Blabble and I as close friends. 
Kinda making you rethink your great idea to take mushrooms to solve your mental problems, or at least regret creating an account here, huh?
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26488993 - 02/16/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah.. Umm.. I think I might give my mushrooms away and focus on meditation and talking with my psychologist.
Thank you very much!
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Moonblade]
#26489055 - 02/16/20 08:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Honestly, that’s probably the best idea. How about this: save them somewhere dry. Get some therapy work done first, then if you get to spot where you need that extra kick, tell your therapist you are thinking about it. They might be receptive and could make sure you are mentally ok before and after the trip.
Don’t let them prescribe you a bunch of weird drugs to deal with things. If that’s their only suggestion. Definitely choose the shrooms.
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Moonblade]
#26489594 - 02/17/20 08:07 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Moonblade said: Yeah.. Umm.. I think I might give my mushrooms away and focus on meditation and talking with my psychologist.
Thank you very much!
There are people who can orate elegantly the evils and damage of mushrooms and vice-versa. The problem is, we usually pick to listen to the people that align with what we subconsciously want to hear. People who are uninformed will literally seek out "proof" of what they want to be true rather than seek what is actually true.
Now I'm saying this because it seems that one person wrote a semi incoherent rant about the evils of psychedelics and, since your subconscious is partially afraid, it took the advice to actions.
Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that you are wrong in your assessment. Meditation and a good psychotherapist are just as important as experimentation and self-exploration with substances, activities, etc. If this is what you feel is best for you, pursue it. Your priority should be healing and whatever will get you there.
Now, about mushrooms.
- They won't physically kill you, assuming you have cubes, pans, etc.
- They are intense. This is a neutral statement. They are not "good" or "bad". They can magnify the smallest intimation of sadness or happiness to an incredibly healing or unbearable degree. This is where the fear comes from. I was scared too and even though my first trip was an intense 3.5g, I dabbled with super low doses 2 years later when I had he chance to try them again. This was my ego winning. I never felt anything and I was super disappointed. Eventually when they called to me again, and I became more involved in the process, I realized how incredible of a tool they are. They called to me and I heeded their call. Now I'm a life-long advocate.
- Listen to Shr00meater, he's got good advice. They aren't a magic pill. The "healing" doesn't always come. Expectations ruin a trip. Sometimes a trip is just a fun and wild ride full of terror and/or amazement. There is healing in those trips too but some people think healing only exists if you get specifically emotional in the trip about what you want to focus on. Sometimes the trip just says "Let go of that crap. The ride is here and now. Watch the dazzling lights and feel your body". Sometimes it takes a handful of experiences to even start the healing.
Ultimately this isn't to say "do them!". I think you need to figure out what is right for you and follow that path. And, of course, a very dark and terror inducing experience can make things worse. But that is the risk we take in simply living. Do you skip driving a car when told how many people die in accidents annually? No because the convenience is worth the risk. BUT if you can't see straight then yes, by all means, skip driving a car because it isn't right for you. The same goes with shrooms. The "risk" is facing the trauma that has been built up in you. The risk is feeling something, seeing something, being something you are unprepared for. And you must weigh those risks.
My first shroom experience was an adventure into the desert to heal trauma of an abusive childhood, alcoholic and emotionally unavailable father, and a handful of other traumas. It turned my world upside down (in a good way). The struggles didn't end but the new perspective and appreciation of life gave me the power to overcome many of them. And even though I still struggle, I look at the world and think "My oh my how incredibly lucky I am to be able to have and share in these experiences".
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Edited by Socrateshroom (02/17/20 08:10 AM)
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Shr00mEater]
#26489790 - 02/17/20 10:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Temporarily blinded and suffering, but soon the pain fades away to be replaced with a landscape of color and beauty.
Sublime 👊🏻❤️ DJ Ed
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26489800 - 02/17/20 10:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Never underestimate a 3.5 g shroom trip to prime your mind for change and acceptance. It can make lifestyle changes easier because of the sense of clarity one feels during the comedown, and it usually makes me think of topics that bothered me before in a much more accurate and healthy way.
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Socrateshroom]
#26489806 - 02/17/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Great post Socrateshroom 👍🏻
I think the reason we bury “those memories” is because they are so damned hard to face up to. So multiply that by some random (mushroom) factor, and you get the “unpleasant experience” in the trip. Might only come out properly in your first “real dose”; Johns Hopkins use 20mg or 30mg, 30mg = approx 5g dry cubensis. You will get. A psychedelic experience with 2.5g dry, enough to have a scary come up, but it will be short lived, and the trip from there will be relatively easy. Allow that ‘ those experiences to sink in, then go for a large “therapeutic” dose.
Good luck, DJ Ed
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Moonblade]
#26490631 - 02/17/20 06:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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My man, so far during this year of experimentation for me, in total I've probably consumed not more than 5 - 7 grams. It's been an interesting discovery and a lot of fun.
If you want to feel relaxed, kind of high, eat one or two mushrooms. That's probably .25g. If you want to really get relaxed and enjoy the intensity of colors and expanded depth of sound, eat 3 or 4. If you want to experience closed eye visuals, 5 or 6, hell maybe even tripping as I experienced. At 5 or 6, assuming consistency of weight, you'd be at about 1.5g. At 7 or 8 mushrooms, or about 2g you're really having fun with it, lots of visuals, lots of energy. You're still in control more or less.
You've got F-O-U-R-T-E-E-N grams dude. Experiment, but don't do them all at once. For a first time experience, that sounds like a waste. Ease into it. You'll still have enough to blast off when you decide you really want to be the universe.
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26491404 - 02/18/20 09:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: Great post Socrateshroom 👍🏻
I think the reason we bury “those memories” is because they are so damned hard to face up to. So multiply that by some random (mushroom) factor, and you get the “unpleasant experience” in the trip. Might only come out properly in your first “real dose”; Johns Hopkins use 20mg or 30mg, 30mg = approx 5g dry cubensis. You will get. A psychedelic experience with 2.5g dry, enough to have a scary come up, but it will be short lived, and the trip from there will be relatively easy. Allow that ‘ those experiences to sink in, then go for a large “therapeutic” dose.
Good luck, DJ Ed
Thanks! I agree, it is definitely hard to face those feelings, memories, traumas, etc. But that is what conventional therapy with a psychotherapist is anyway. Plus, as most of us know, the longer we wait to face those things, the deeper rooted our neuroses become as a consequence.
This isn't to say that shrooms are the right way to face those problems. Some of us just can't afford therapy  But they are an incredibly self-reliant (in a sense) way of doing it.
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Socrateshroom]
#26491455 - 02/18/20 09:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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One of the most fundamental lessons that mushrooms have taught me, and note this is very specific to me, is that depression is a choice. Not trying to be flippant, but whatever life throws at you, it is down to you the individual how you react. I chose to react with decades of negative thought loops, rumination, anger, bitterness. It is so easy to blame others, the environment, friends, family, etc, and divert any “blame” from yourself.
SSRIs and other medications are a useful short term tool for those in desperate need, but I would not recommend them in any other situations. It is down to us to deal with and resolve our own depression / issues.
So on that basis, I believe mushrooms, under your own volition, are a very plausible way forward, and alternative to “established” “remedies”.
Edit: as in, you’re born alone, you die alone, you trip alone, so why not deal with your depression issues on your own?
Mush love DJ Ed
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26491503 - 02/18/20 10:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: One of the most fundamental lessons that mushrooms have taught me, and note this is very specific to me, is that depression is a choice. Not trying to be flippant, but whatever life throws at you, it is down to you the individual how you react. I chose to react with decades of negative thought loops, rumination, anger, bitterness. It is so easy to blame others, the environment, friends, family, etc, and divert any “blame” from yourself.
SSRIs and other medications are a useful short term tool for those in desperate need, but I would not recommend them in any other situations. It is down to us to deal with and resolve our own depression / issues.
So on that basis, I believe mushrooms, under your own volition, are a very plausible way forward, and alternative to “established” “remedies”.
Edit: as in, you’re born alone, you die alone, you trip alone, so why not deal with your depression issues on your own?
Mush love DJ Ed
I 100% agree.
Obviously sometimes it is easy to choose depression, bitterness, resentment, etc, because they are the easier choices (and the ego seems to love those feelings/behaviors). It is hard to choose to plow through feeling the constant weight of your life collapsing on you.
But you are right. We are, ultimately, alone. We need to accept that and face the world in such a way.
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: Socrateshroom]
#26491509 - 02/18/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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It was a real kick in the teeth; the dawning realisation that I had made myself depressed. Or rather, the depression was easier than the fight, so I chose the depressed path for years. My negative thought patterns were perpetuating the reality of my choices. Don’t get me wrong though, even though I now realise I am the cause so I have to be the solution, it still takes effort and discipline overcoming years of habit.
I’d encourage anybody who wants to help themselves, to help themselves!
Mush love, DJ Ed
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Re: Before I Try Golden Teacher Mushrooms? [Re: DJ Ed]
#26491546 - 02/18/20 10:38 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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DJ Ed said: It was a real kick in the teeth; the dawning realisation that I had made myself depressed. Or rather, the depression was easier than the fight, so I chose the depressed path for years. My negative thought patterns were perpetuating the reality of my choices. Don’t get me wrong though, even though I now realise I am the cause so I have to be the solution, it still takes effort and discipline overcoming years of habit.
I’d encourage anybody who wants to help themselves, to help themselves!
Mush love, DJ Ed
Yea, that's where I am at. I'm still struggling a lot but my struggle is trending towards the positive direction rather than spiraling into deeper resentment of everything.
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