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What did you open it to discuss? Whether or not anyone could hear, 'bane', in your recording? Sure...it could be interpreted as that... especially when you preface it with the suggestion. Or did you open it to discuss the presence of entities imperceptible except while in a hallucinogenic state?
If the latter, you might have better luck with digging up a thread from the recent past that has had thorough discussion. You'll a lot of hear alien/entity talk around this part of the forums because it rings so true to so many and their psychedelic experiences only stand to solidify those beliefs. But it's all just mysticism. Not to say that the mystic arts aren't a substantial and nourishing aspect of human experience, but they can't be put into a discussion of tangible truths. Not yet at least.
That's why, as shroomeater cautioned about the nature of your topic, you're mostly going to get some checks on your beliefs in this part of the forums - that's what most of those threads I mentioned devolve into, as well. Because 'The Psychedelic Experience' is rooted by the objective and only flourished with the subjective.
Just let it be true to yourself. Those are the best things anyway. Even better when it can be true to a group.
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Re: Recorded Mushroom EVPs [Re: footpath]
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footpath said: What did you open it to discuss?
While I did want to confirm what others were hearing in this recording, my main intent was to discuss the potential of EVP occurring during trips and to make a place for others to leave their own recordings for neutral group examination if I'm not the only one investigating this. Do you possibly remember what part of the forum that thread is on, if not its title or any keywords I can look up?
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Eclipse3130
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footpath said: What did you open it to discuss?
While I did want to confirm what others were hearing in this recording, my main intent was to discuss the potential of EVP occurring during trips and to make a place for others to leave their own recordings for neutral group examination if I'm not the only one investigating this. Do you possibly remember what part of the forum that thread is on, if not its title or any keywords I can look up?
I heard bane and it is reminisce of how spirit(s) sound and respond. Especially in my experience with EVP.
I have a huge concern with your intentions and what you are actually doing this for though, there are many spirits that have "evil" intentions of their own that will play into your own questions and responses, it is a very dangerous thing to get into for many reasons. Playing with the spirit world - that is. Take it from my experience, and be warned, you are opening yourself up and inviting any entity or spirit into you by doing this, and that could very well lead to a world of problems in the future if you not well prepared to deal with the evil ones, they can lead you far into suicidal tendencies over time etc, especially when you are in such a susceptible state as being under the influence of a psychedelic, you are completely opened up, and without proper protection and intentions it can end very badly.
Also the fact that the recording said Bane, which in itself "a cause of great distress or annoyance." most likely means its an ill-intent spirit that you invited in - I hope you know what you are dealing with.
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Coulrophany said: The worst that can happen is nothing happens.
What do you have to lose?
This statement greatly worries me for you
-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
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Don’t get upset now, I mean, reread my first response. I tried to warn you. 
I am not trying to convince you of anything. I am challenging what you currently are convinced of. I have no problem with you believing anything you want. But, I should also be allowed to believe what I want.
Typically, I wouldn’t have responded to this type of post at all. I was keeping it alive for your sake. Don’t worry tho, now that we are bickering about something... the lurkers will come out of the shadows.
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So the spirit world is both educated in and interested in Batman?
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Coulrophany said: The worst that can happen is nothing happens.
What do you have to lose?
This statement greatly worries me for you
Thank you for your response, Eclipse. I am not doing this for fun nor am I unprepared - working with entities is part of my job. You are quite right though, it was highly irresponsible of me to suggest it so flagrantly. I suppose I had aimed that at the folks who are focusing on disproving this phenomenon without experience in a little bout of frustration and that is even worse of me. I retract the suggestion that anyone should ask questions whilst recording - but recording an otherwise normal trip is harmless (or at least, not MORE harmful) in my opinion; you are opening yourself up anyway, the recording is just there to confirm if anything did indeed take part in your session. After all, I did not record this session with the intent of contacting anything and it still occurred. Finding out if EVP and entity activity is increased during a trip is something people should know - it is far more dangerous to be tripping unawares than to be doing research into whether it is spiritually safe to do so. In doing this, perhaps safety measures can be developed specifically for trips.
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InfiniteDreams said: So the spirit world is both educated in and interested in Batman?
What, did you think the Court of Owls was actually just a crime organization?
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Coulrophany said: Look - anyone can "prove" me wrong by insisting such things don't exist simply because they've never experienced it for themselves.
I missed this classic appeal to ignorance. "You can't disprove it, so it must be true."
And, for my indulgent side, what Eclipse is saying should be heeded if you're actually trying to provoke this sort of thing. Call it whatever you will, whatever it might be that exists in whatever state - it can damage you if you play with it. Which brings me full circle back to my stance that "People on hallucinogens are especially susceptible participants in the act." All of this has to do with the intended interaction. People "unaware" aren't provoking anything because their intentions are elsewhere. Simply taking psychedelics isn't tantamount to vulnerability - you need the input of intent.
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Re: Recorded Mushroom EVPs [Re: footpath]
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footpath said: All of this has to do with the intended interaction. People "unaware" aren't provoking anything because their intentions are elsewhere. Simply taking psychedelics isn't tantamount to vulnerability - you need the input of intent.
See my above post: I did not record my session with the intent of contacting anything and it possibly occurred anyway. This alarmed me for the safety of other trippers, which is why I am investigating.
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The act of recording suggests intention. Curiosity and intrigue alone are full of intention - the desire to learn; to see beyond. If we're looking, things will most often appear. If we're not looking, they most often will not. Of course people can be blindsided by many sorts of things when they're tripping, but peering into them opens a gate.
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footpath said: All of this has to do with the intended interaction. People "unaware" aren't provoking anything because their intentions are elsewhere. Simply taking psychedelics isn't tantamount to vulnerability - you need the input of intent.
See my above post: I did not record my session with the intent of contacting anything and it possibly occurred anyway. This alarmed me for the safety of other trippers, which is why I am investigating.
You seemed to have asked a question to an invisible force, which is an intention - reaching out to the unseen.
It is not advised to try this at home, and always have the highest intention of your own spiritual development and healing, rather than seeking entities, at best do this sober with EVP. In my opinion and experience. To each their own, even then it is not advisable in my experience - let the entities come naturally to you if they have something to say, and they will in due time. Shamanistic work mainly involves the connection with plant spirits, and ancestor spirits, let this development unfold naturally, seeking out spirits is not recommended, and the ones that are supposed to be connected with you are naturally connected with in my experience.
-------------------- "In The Material World One seeks retirement and grows Old In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms And one day... we will all Realize that all experiences are Simply Different ways in which The All-That Is Perceives Itself"
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footpath said: The act of recording suggests intention. Curiosity and intrigue alone are full of intention - the desire to learn; to see beyond. If we're looking, things will most often appear. If we're not looking, they most often will not. Of course people can be blindsided by many sorts of things when they're tripping, but peering into them opens a gate.
I had simply wanted to record anything profound I may say, as well as to collect the maniacal laughter I am prone to on Psilocybin - to add to my music and soundscapes. I did not go into this session with mystical intent and was shocked when I found this potential EVP; especially as its the first time I have ever recorded a trip. It makes me think it may be more common than expected.
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footpath said: All of this has to do with the intended interaction. People "unaware" aren't provoking anything because their intentions are elsewhere. Simply taking psychedelics isn't tantamount to vulnerability - you need the input of intent.
See my above post: I did not record my session with the intent of contacting anything and it possibly occurred anyway. This alarmed me for the safety of other trippers, which is why I am investigating.
You seemed to have asked a question to an invisible force, which is an intention - reaching out to the unseen.
It is not advised to try this at home, and always have the highest intention of your own spiritual development and healing, rather than seeking entities, at best do this sober with EVP. In my opinion and experience. To each their own, even then it is not advisable in my experience - let the entities come naturally to you if they have something to say, and they will in due time. Shamanistic work mainly involves the connection with plant spirits, and ancestor spirits, let this development unfold naturally, seeking out spirits is not recommended, and the ones that are supposed to be connected with you are naturally connected with in my experience.

I asked that question because I felt something was there - I didn't go looking for it. It came, I acknowledged it, and it seems it spoke. I won't go into these sessions specifically looking for them and I will take much greater precaution in future - you have made fair points about that - but I will not cease recording for music production - and as such analyzing said recordings for further unintended incidents.
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Kinda like a ouija board?? 
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Do not be surprised if they keep coming - as you're looking for more than the medicine is naturally giving you there are safer ways to do what you want to achieve.. do as you wish and reap the benefits, or consequences. The best way to learn is the hard way after all
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Eclipse3130 said: Do not be surprised if they keep coming - as you're looking for more than the medicine is naturally giving you there are safer ways to do what you want to achieve.. do as you wish and reap the benefits, or consequences. The best way to learn is the hard way after all
"Looking for more than the medicine is naturally giving (me)"? I am not tripping to record myself, I am recording myself to make the most of my trips on a creative level. What exactly do you mean by this? What "safer ways" are you suggesting and for what purpose?
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