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Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period * 3
    #26488158 - 02/16/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

(TL;DR: Had a shitty trip? Feel unfulfilled? Add another gram to your tek dose the next day and right all the previous trip's wrongs.)

Trip report below.

So, all over the web I've seen declarations that there is simply no way one can have a fulfilling second trip the day after the first due to tolerance, and one would need at least a double dose to feel anything at all. This is bullshit.

Perhaps it may be so for high tolerance trippers with no deeper intention, but if you're in any kind of serious shamanic work or are sensitive to shrooms, you'll be fine.

On Valentine's evening I took 2g dried Golden Teacher in a lemon tek. I had last taken 2g Penis Envy about two weeks prior, hoo boy - that's another story. This GT tek lead to a very frustrating, uncomfortable trip that had few visuals (which are very important to me) and even less coherent thought and a constant feeling of "Something is missing" and "Why did I do this to myself?" Despite then feeling very wistful and not ready to leave as the trip subsided. It was all just "off" and extremely unsatisfying.

The next day I had to make a phonecall about some familial issues I had been dreading (and a reason I tekked in the first place, to work everything out) it affected me to a point that I had to lie down in the grass and gasp for air. It felt like picking a thick, nasty scab off my heart Chakra. I felt worse after the call if anything, and felt desperately like I needed to revisit the shrooms to work through it all.

Every post I visited about the matter advised me not to, especially if having a bad day, that I'd have no visuals or a generally shitty time - in each post there was at least one person professing that they've tripped multiple days in a row with no worries.

I was in terrible pain from a migraine and the virtues of womanhood. I also looked into this and noted many women advised against tripping whilst menstruating. I said fuck it to all of this.

I prepared a 3.5g lemon tek with the last of my Golden Teachers. This happened at 3AM due to the time it took for me to decide whether I'd even take it, and preparing my house to do so. I politely told the mixture that I needed to heal, I danced for it emphatically as I waited for the tek time to pass - both to raise my own mood and entertain the mushrooms - said "Skol!" to Odin and took the shot.

What followed was the most phenomenal, nurturing, rejuvenating trip I've ever experienced. Everything was pure decadence. Fascinating closed-eye visuals and textile sensations and extremely comfortable and mirthful in bed whereas I'm usually extremely restless and wind up in very strange positions when I lie down while tripping. The electricity went out and made way for open eye visuals which I can only describe as "Kawaii" - comforting, adorable pastel stars and sweets and trinkets with Japanese styled cartoon faces. It's not a style I'm particularly interested in; it felt more like the mushrooms knew what is universally cute and sweet and wanted to generate it - I felt babied by the trip in a good way; brought down to infantile wonder and delight. I was immersed in overwhelming love and gratitude to a point that I thanked these adorable little visuals for simply existing and being there with me.

That dreadful, scab-picked feeling in my heart healed. I laughed. I cried.

All my verbal appreciation throughout this process seemed to excite the cute kaleidoscope into filling every surface of the house in iridescent eyes interwoven with patterns of such infinite complexity one could spend the whole trip in awe of a single corner.  Everything was punctuated by an ever-growing wonder and thankfulness. I felt a strange honour and privilege in what I was experiencing and the more audible thanks and veneration I gave to the shrooms, the more beautiful things became, the more appreciative I was.

I knew it's a good idea to ask mushrooms things, but I simply couldn't. All I could manage to say to them was "Wow. WOW! You're exquisite. Thank you so much."

Going outside in the twilight, overlooking the rolling green hills and silhouetted treeline on the farmstead I live on, was like being reborn - like watching the whole world come into being for the first time. I felt overwhelmingly in the presence of the deity I cheered as I began the trip, in ways I can't begin to explain. I was surprisingly mobile - able to climb a short but steep hill and hang off a fence to watch mystical eyes roll through the fields and trees whereas I can usually hardly make it to the kitchen for tea on a trip.

Throughout all this, I wasn't even aware I had a uterus, let alone cramps.

Morning rolled in with utter peace and comfort, I went back to bed and delighted in mushing my Maine Coon's face fur around (cats ARE liquid!) - at no point was it jarring for the journey to end and I never got that awful, wistful homesick feeling one can get when sobering up. I got everything I needed and then some. I can handle it now - "it" being anything. I feel like I broke out of a depression or apathy with existence I didn't fully realize I was even suffering. Something clicked. There is still fresh wonder and gratitude for the world today.

Mushrooms are medicine. If you need them, TAKE THEM! Having a really shitty day and being in an awful mood, in pain, all of the above, just gives the shrooms more to transmute. Take them when you need them most, and they will give you their all.

Happy tripping, and don't take rumours and the experience of others as gospel.


Edited by Coulrophany (02/19/20 03:38 AM)


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany] * 4
    #26488173 - 02/16/20 10:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I've tripped a few days in a row. People are just weird noobs with drugs sometimes


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26488179 - 02/16/20 10:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I’m glad you had such a great experience. But, You have been in the wrong parts of the internet, for some of us, you are preaching to the choir.

I agree with your sentiment that occasionally following a trip, there can be a funky mood and that taking another dose soon afterward can be the exact thing you need. For me, a gram over my last trip is usually enough to do it two days in a row, especially on the lower end of the dosing spectrum.

I don’t usually talk a lot about it, or recommend it often because, not everyone’s biology and psychology works the same. Some people, at some times would do better with a longer cool down period( pun intended), or more time to reflect rather than another trip so soon after.

Again, I am happy for you and welcome to The Shroomery! Good first post and hope to see more of you.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26488187 - 02/16/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Wow what an amazing trip; mushrooms do know when to be kind to you. Some of my most mystical and satisfying trips come after sh1tty trips.

I never believe the rumours, either ✊🏻

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26488188 - 02/16/20 10:56 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I've tripped a few days in a row. People are just weird noobs with drugs sometimes




:whathesaid:

I tripped last Tuesday thru Friday. Also I did 1.5g of ape for almost 30days straight. Some people are indeed weird noobs with drugs:lol:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26488202 - 02/16/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Again, I am happy for you and welcome to The Shroomery! Good first post and hope to see more of you.




Thank you, Shr00m! I've been lurking for a little while and thought it time to contribute.

Actually, most of the posts I found advising against tripping twice were on this very forum, which is why I decided to leave the information here - glad to see it's not as uncommon knowledge as it seemed. Hopefully this still helps a new psychonaut who read the posts I did.

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I've tripped a few days in a row. People are just weird noobs with drugs sometimes




:whathesaid:

I tripped last Tuesday thru Friday. Also I did 1.5g of ape for almost 30days straight. Some people are indeed weird noobs with drugs:lol:




Wow! What were your doses Tuesday - Friday? How did you feel physically/mentally after? During your 1.5g run, did your experience diminish at all per trip?


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany] * 2
    #26488212 - 02/16/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

2 to 3g of good cubes. Nothing crazy. I listened to heavy metal and did my usual thing.

try it yourself and find out. I cant tell you how you would react.

What's the worst that could happen? Maybe youll go insane.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26488214 - 02/16/20 11:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Awesome report OP.

Been tripping on 3.5g every Friday, like clockwork, for a couple of months. Lemon tek’d 2g last Monday just to test a new batch and crossed over for 3-4 hours with much stronger than usual visuals.

Mushrooms are a forever mystery.:shrug:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: feldman114]
    #26488302 - 02/16/20 12:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I’ve just done a 2.5g dose a week after a super super strong 3.8g dose!. It was sublime 👍🏻


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26488356 - 02/16/20 12:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I’ve just done a 2.5g dose a week after a super super strong 3.8g dose!. It was sublime 👍🏻




Gosh, a lower dose even? That's very cool to hear. My supplier claims to have developed a hybrid of Golden Teacher and Penis Envy he has dubbed Supernova - I haven't found any solid information on such a hybridization so I'm half skeptical and half excited, but this makes me think I may not have to wait too long before testing them out as I previously assumed. I wonder how much taking different types of shroom in succession affects tolerance and experience. I'll be sure to take photos and write a report when I receive them.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26489370 - 02/17/20 03:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Sure you can trip several days in a row. You might want to slightly up the dose due to tolerance.
Most of the time it's very beneficial. You just enter the same place that you left the day before.


Hybridization is nothing magical.
Just add spores of two different varieties into the same spawn bag/jar and most likely some hybrids will grow showing traits of both varieties.
You simply inoculate not only with one, but with two different syringes, that's it basically.

Stabilizing the new hybrid's traits over several generations is the main work.

There is a thread about this topic in the cultivation subforum.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26489426 - 02/17/20 04:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Gt crossed with PE isn't a hybrid anyway. They're the same species. That's like saying a oreo kid is a hybrid of black and white people. Its a varietal hybrid which isn't a hybrid at all. It's just a kid

GT x PE is still just psilocybin cubensis at the end of the day


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26489435 - 02/17/20 04:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Allright!

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26489440 - 02/17/20 04:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I prefer to just call them variety crosses or just new varieties. Like Rusty whyte. That's aa+ and crs by pastywhyte. It's just called RW now.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26489450 - 02/17/20 05:06 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Hybridization is nothing magical.




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Gt crossed with PE isn't a hybrid anyway.





Have either of you tried GT x PE? I found PE to be a completely different animal to GT trip-wise: I wouldn't have imagined that they're the same species even by appearance.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26489461 - 02/17/20 05:25 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

PE is just a mutant lineage of cubensis. They're stronger per gram than most other cubes


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26489566 - 02/17/20 07:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I've tripped a few days in a row. People are just weird noobs with drugs sometimes




I don't think its that cut and dry, nor do I think someone is a n00b for not wanting to play it fast-and-loose with their fitness and health. First off, most people who trip, me included, have noticed that when you take any sort of hallucinogen, your body builds up tolerance absurdly fast. That's obvious, and we all know it. But these drugs, particularly the ones that are VERY HARD on your digestive system and your cardiovascular system, invariably have some negative effects on the human body.

I remember when I was in my '20s, had a massive LSD trip on a weekend day, and had such a great time I wanted to do it again. Of course, not knowing that tolerance builds up almost immediately, so day 2, same dose, almost zero effect other than a trippy buzz.

But doubling the dose, or adding whatever is necessary to blow past that temporary tolerance, is a dubious plan at best. I like my body. I lift weights heavily, log a lot of miles on my bicycle, keep my bodyfat at 10% or under, and I try to take care of the ONE body that I will ever have in my life.

Not judging anyone else, and if people want to start hammering their bodies with double-doses, or whatever is needed, to blast past the temporary tolerance to trip two days in a row, then Godspeed. But, using me as an example, I am no "tripping n00b" just because I like to take care of my body. I think this is especially true when you are talking about the various natural substances, like shrooms, cacti, peyote buttons, HBW and MG seeds, etc. The toxins in these plants are very bad for you. There's a reason why we get sick when we take them. But, we deal with the risks and the fact that everyone has a vice.

But I think its prudent, if one is going to experiment, that care should be taken, and respect for both the substances we ingest and our bodies should at least be a factor in the decision.

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I agree with your sentiment that occasionally following a trip, there can be a funky mood and that taking another dose soon afterward can be the exact thing you need.




This I can agree with, emphasis on the word "occasionally," of course.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26489577 - 02/17/20 07:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I’ve just done a 2.5g dose a week after a super super strong 3.8g dose!. It was sublime 👍🏻




From a physiologic standpoint, a week should be plenty of time to lose most of the tolerance to hallucinogens one has built up from one trip. There will still be some residual tolerance, but not the same as tripping two days in a row and having to really bump up the dose.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26489598 - 02/17/20 08:13 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

According to reports, ayahuasca can be taken daily without a reduction in dose, not to mention vaporized DMT.

My personal experience has been that with acid, I will have greatly diminished effects if I try to dose the day after, or even up to a week after it seems just. “Meh”. With shrooms, weekly is no problem and I can do two days in a row without doubling to get a similar intensity. Maybe a gram or two more. I haven’t tried 3days in a row. I also have a good amount of experience redosing over a single session. Some people claim that it only extends the trip. I think they are doing it wrong.
But, mostly I think tolerance affects people in different ways. There are general rules, but specific examples vary too widely for me to be definitive on thus subject.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26489620 - 02/17/20 08:35 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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nor do I think someone is a n00b for not wanting to play it fast-and-loose with their fitness and health.






Lol fast and loose. Mushroom use bad for your health? Explain please because that's misleading and ignorant.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26489645 - 02/17/20 08:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Also, exactly what harmful toxins are in shrooms?

Not picking a fight, just wanting to better highlight the overstated case you are presenting, while at the same time, you are trying to indicate that the oppositions case is overstated.

That’s funny. :grin:



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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26489704 - 02/17/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Tolerance with mushrooms is a weird thing, and is very specific to the individual. You’ll find out what works for you with experience. I have found in the past tripping weekly that by the third dose I no longer get “the magic”. So sometimes it’s worth waiting!

The only reason I had the 2.5g a week after a ridiculous strong 3.8 (one of those trips you get from time to time, that is inexplicably strong, and you’re just in survival mode) was because I got NOTHING out of the previous 3.8g, apart obviously from not dying!

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26489715 - 02/17/20 09:50 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I did regular trips when I was 20 and ignorant. For me, the worst feeling in the world is when you take mushrooms but then don’t trip properly. I mean, all the preparation, all the anxiety, and then 5 hours of no trip and can’t even read your iPad! Not for me.

I like to think of tolerance as nature’s way of enforcing respect! I have no problem with anybody that wants to trip repeatedly, but for me, I prefer to rest in between.

I’ve been trying all sorts of dosing regimes over the last 4nyears to aid with depression self-help. I used to think the McKenna way wa sit; 5g silent darkness infrequently. But the trips were strong, scary, and the after glow didn’t last. I tried weekly trips, but often lost the magic, if not by week 2 then certainly by week 3. I have recently stuck to a trip every two weeks. It has been so helpful, the afterglow has been lasting the whole two weeks in between trips. I’m now going to try a few months break and integrate the last few months’,worth of trips.

Dunno how to go when I do come back; 5g.............?

Mush love,
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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26489732 - 02/17/20 10:04 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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nor do I think someone is a n00b for not wanting to play it fast-and-loose with their fitness and health.






Lol fast and loose. Mushroom use bad for your health? Explain please because that's misleading and ignorant.



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Also, exactly what harmful toxins are in shrooms?

Not picking a fight, just wanting to better highlight the overstated case you are presenting, while at the same time, you are trying to indicate that the oppositions case is overstated.

That’s funny. :grin:






I thought LSA Woodrose meant the psychological toll shrooms can have on the unprepared when but then I re-read his post.

I also would like to know, LSA, what toxic chemicals are in cubes?

They take a toll on your heart no more than heavy exercise, assuming you have no pre-existing medical conditions (I know, I've been lifting, running  and playing extreme sports for years. Exercise is awesome but it takes a physical toll as well. And I don't mean just injuries but repeated stresses on your joints, for example. I know many people who have herniated disks from something like basketball because of all the jumping they did. I can feel the decades of exercise have taken a toll on my joints.).


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater] * 1
    #26489927 - 02/17/20 12:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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mushboy said:

Lol fast and loose. Mushroom use bad for your health? Explain please because that's misleading and ignorant.




Quote:

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Also, exactly what harmful toxins are in shrooms?

Not picking a fight, just wanting to better highlight the overstated case you are presenting, while at the same time, you are trying to indicate that the oppositions case is overstated.

That’s funny. :grin:







First off, nothing I said was ignorant, but before I support my position, let me make it clear that I am NOT saying people shouldn't take mushrooms or seeds or plants containing mescaline, of whatever. If I were saying that, then yes, certainly that would be not only ignorant, but hypocritical. I would like to start growing magic mushrooms myself, for my own consumption, and I have a boatload of Morning Glory and Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds. So, yeah, lol if I was abdicating abstinence, then that would be pretty stupid, considering my own use, not to mention this is a psyechedelics forum, and if that were the case, then WTF am I doing here in the first place, right?

No.

My response was to this post:

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Some people are indeed weird noobs with drugs:lol:




My main point, which is why I quoted that post in my original response, was to say that one doesn't have to be either weird or a n00b to not want to put these chemicals in their bodies multiple days in a row, and that waiting for the tolerance to drop down to baseline or at least almost to baseline is not the worst idea in the world.

We all know that there are toxins in MG and HBW seeds, precursors to strychnine, if I remember correctly? Might be cyanide, actually. However, with mushrooms, or any substance that makes you sick to the point of moderate to severe nausea, possible cramps, rare cases of diarrhea, and other intestinal symptoms. Look at it from a purely common sense standpoint first, before talking about chemicals in these plants and fungi. Is it really completely unreasonable to assert that when something you ingest causes moderate to severe intestinal symptoms that this is your body's way of telling you that this isn't something it actually wants in your system? Want being a non sequitur of sorts, since your digestive system is not sentient. Anyway, my point is that any medical professional will tell you that if things you eat cause these symptoms, its nature, evolution, and you body's way that maybe this isn't so good for you. As things that cause these symptoms do so because they are very hard on your digestive system or irritants of one form or another.

I will walk back one thing I said, because I was typing in haste: I said that these toxins in psychedelic plants are "very bad for you" when what I should have said was that they are toxic to at least enough of an extent to cause profound medical symptoms in human beings.

As for specific chemicals, shrooms have not been studied extensively for their exact pharmacological effects in the body. Mostly because there is no profit in the research, which is generally funded by the pharmaceutical companies. However, the hypothesis is that it could have something to do with a lot of serotonin in the gut, it could be irritating the gastric and intestinal mucosa, and lastly, like MG and HBW seeds, there are probably some toxins in those species' of mushrooms themselves.

Hell, ethanol is actually classified as a poison, yet people drink booze, and few people die from it. Toxins in cigarettes cause a whole world of problems, and even junk food, particularly chemicals like high fructose corn syrup have been implicated to have almost toxic-like effects on the body.

My main point, as I said above, was not to get on a soapbox and preach NOT to take these substances. Ha! In fact, I can't find ANYTHING resembling real mescaline or mushrooms here in The Big Apple, and would take both if I could! My main point was to say that when something makes one physically ill, is it really "weird" or "noobish" for someone to want to err on the side of caution and NOT double up on a dose (or substantially increase the tripping dose) to trip two days in a row, proportionally increasing whatever chemicals they are taking in that are hard enough on the digestive system to cause overt, uncomfortable, and sometimes severe intestinal distress?


Edit: Let me also add this for some perspective. I am on a low carb, ketogenic diet right now. However, I choose days I call "cheat days." I have three coming up this weekend...Yay! lol On my cheat days, I completely depart from my diet regimen. I will eat whatever the f*ck I want, which I can assure you is NOT just eating more of what's healthy. During the course of these cheat days, I will make myself a giant Banana Boat sundae with like 5 giant scoops of ice cream, an insane amount of toppings, and whatever else I want to throw on it. Then I'll have desert! Seriously, I can eat an entire loaf of Italian bread, plus a pound of pasta, other deserts in addition to the ice cream. I eat so much on my cheat days that sometimes I wake up the next day with what I can only describe as a "food hangover."

You think this is good for me? I bet that the toxic effects of all that food on one of my cheat days might even be equal to or surpass the toxins I ingest in a handful of HBW seeds. But I do it anyway. Because, A, we all have our vices, and B, it keeps me VERY STRICT for the 99% of the time I am on my diet.

Obviously, I take MD and HBW seeds even though I am sure they are not great for my digestive system.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26489958 - 02/17/20 12:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Tldr, I read your opening statement and figured out what the rest of the post was.







I lied, I just went back and read it.

You never did name which toxic chemicals are in shrooms?

I get your point, and I personally never claimed you are preaching abstinence.

But, some of us might have claimed that you are talking out of your ass... which, there is nothing inherently wrong with, it also seems in this last post that you do admit as much... If we are being honest, you could walk back a bit more of the definitive language you are using.

HOWEVER, I don’t actually care about that. I don’t need explainations, not required for me at least, as I am able to see the humor in the language you chose to use.

“Fast and loose” is a fairly known debating term for how someone is handling facts. You used the term to describe one side of an argument...... while being fast and loose yourself. Fucking hilarious.

Don’t be mad. Not my intention. I’m the first guy to admit there are potential risks when taking mind altering drugs.

Even the weird noobs thing is, in my opinion, clearly a jest. I don’t think it was intended to indicate that  everyone who doesn’t redose is noob. Instead, it is pointing at how myths get spread.... ie, by weird noobs.

This thread was about wether redosing works or not.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26489990 - 02/17/20 01:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Tldr, I read your opening statement and figured out what the rest of the post was.


I lied, I just went back and read it.




lol I do that all the time. :grin:

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Shr00mEater said:You never did name which toxic chemicals are in shrooms?




The answer is I don't know precisely. I am not sure anyone does. As I said above, there aren't a lot of studies on psychedelic plants and mushrooms because they have been pretty much controlled substances for so long, there's no profit in funding university-based, clinical research, nor exhaustive chemical analysis.

I can tell you that if someone could convince Big Pharma that psilocybin in pill form could give rich, middle-aged white men erections, we would have voluminous research on its toxicity as well as its beneficial effects. The latter, by the way, I believe far outweighs the former, when taken reasonably.

There are only well reasoned hypothesis' like what I said above, as to why mushrooms make you sick before or during a trip. What we really need is for the United States, and other western nations to not only decriminalize these substances, BUT to have medical and health organizations start recognizing the benefits of tripping in human beings. Then, and only then, do I think an answer to your question would be forthcoming. 

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I get your point, and I personally never claimed you are preaching abstinence.




I get that, but I wanted to clarify my position. I think that mushboy got a little defensive, probably thinking that I was attacking mushrooms or something, and I wanted to make sure that my position was clear.

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But, some of us might have claimed that you are talking out of your ass... which, there is nothing inherently wrong with, it also seems in this last post that you do admit as much... If we are being honest, you could walk back a bit more of the definitive language you are using.

HOWEVER, I don’t actually care about that. I don’t need explainations, not required for me at least, as I am able to see the humor in the language you chose to use.

“Fast and loose” is a fairly known debating term for how someone is handling facts. You used the term to describe one side of an argument...... while being fast and loose yourself. Fucking hilarious.

Don’t be mad. Not my intention.





Not mad. But this is the problem with the Internet. Fast and loose isn't necessarily a bad thing, and I used it more as a catchy little writing tool than to suggest people were going to destroy their lives with two trips in a row, or die from it. For the record, talking in casual conversation, like this forum, half the shit that comes out of our mouths is "fast and loose." I was simply saying that not wanting to be so cavalier with one's health by avoiding these things is not "weird" or "noobish.

To be clear, I wasn't talking out of my ass, as I was NOT making wide-sweeping, grandiose claims for or against the use of psychedelics. I think that there is enough foundation in well-established, modern physiology to make a blanket statement like, "If something makes you sick, your body is probably trying to tell you something." Nausea and vomiting are evolutionary tools used by our bodies to get rid of shit we eat that's bad for us. I cannot think of a single instance where the human digestive system is wrong or flawed because it makes you vomit something up that you ate. Assuming you aren't sick before you eat, when you eat something that makes you nauseous, causes you to vomit, gives you cramps or diarrhea, its largely because your body really doesn't want it inside of you, and doesn't want to process it, sending whatever chemicals contained within its structure into your system. So it tries to eliminate it through reverse peristalsis.

I know its simple, but you can't really say that I'm talking out of my ass if I cite that as reasoning.


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Right, and this is all I am saying. Caveat emptor, because there are risks, and maybe doubling up on a dose to trip two days in a row, while being all right once in a while, should perhaps not be a regular thing? So, again to whip that horse, one doesn't have to be weird of a noob to want to avoid the extra risk of eating double a regular dose to trip the same the next day.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26489997 - 02/17/20 01:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Ya I ain't reading all that.

But I did see this...

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My main point was to say that when something makes one physically ill, is it really "weird" or "noobish" for someone to want to err on the side of caution and NOT double up on a dose (or substantially increase the tripping dose) to trip two days in a row, proportionally increasing whatever chemicals they are taking in that are hard enough on the digestive system to cause overt, uncomfortable, and sometimes severe intestinal distress?





And that's the point I disagreed with:shrug: as did a few others.

To err on the side of caution, you actually need something to be cautious of. Shrooms are not toxic and if you consume them in tea form they are rather gentle on the GI. Having fear of something you dont fully understand is the definition of ignorance hence me saying ignorant.

Using the term fast and loose they way you did also indicates others are being careless with there health which is seriously misleading considering most people here use mushrooms to improve there overall precieved  health.

And lastly why the fuck take HBW when you can grow an extremely easy and definitely non toxic drug like shrooms. Unless your underage or seriously misinformed... OR! you like playing ...fast and loose ..with your health.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26489999 - 02/17/20 01:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I've tripped a few days in a row. People are just weird noobs with drugs sometimes



After Ram Daas died I read an article that said at one point he wanted to test the envelope and took LSD every four hours for a week. I'm looking for a first hand account if his experience.


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    #26490020 - 02/17/20 01:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Mushboy, if you honestly believe that something that makes a healthy person sick, sometimes to the point of being violently ill, has NO toxins, then lol we're really going to have to agree to disagree.

Because our bodies don't simply "get sick" after eating something for no reason whatsoever. Further, if you believe that presuming toxicity based upon a visceral reaction like getting sick is playing it fast and loose with anything, then I'm not sure what to tell you. Other than, our bodies don't just get sick for no reason. Some outside stimulus or inner dysfunction has to occur to disrupt the normal homeostatic mechanisms within us that keep us feeling good and healthy.

Again, though, I suggest we agree to disagree on this. If you really believe that magic mushrooms make a healthy person magically sick for no reason to do with some toxins, I seriously doubt I would convince you otherwise.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26490033 - 02/17/20 01:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Mushboy, if you honestly believe that something that makes a healthy person sick, sometimes to the point of being violently ill, has NO toxins, then lol we're really going to have to agree to disagree.

Because our bodies don't simply "get sick" after eating something for no reason whatsoever. Further, if you believe that presuming toxicity based upon a visceral reaction like getting sick is playing it fast and loose with anything, then I'm not sure what to tell you. Other than, our bodies don't just get sick for no reason. Some outside stimulus or inner dysfunction has to occur to disrupt the normal homeostatic mechanisms within us that keep us feeling good and healthy.

Again, though, I suggest we agree to disagree on this. If you really believe that magic mushrooms make a healthy person magically sick for no reason to do with toxins, I seriously doubt I would convince you otherwise.




Interesting. I've never seen mushrooms make anyone violently ill. Are you talking about the gas/nausea or the psychological effects?

If the former, I don't see how that is "violently ill". I get slight stomach discomfort and a little gassy from shrooms. Lots of things make me super gassy (more than shrooms) but not in a painful way. I don't see how that is grounds for thinking they are toxic.

I mean I'm no scientist. I have never empirically confirmed, with my own controlled experiments, wether cubes contain toxic chemical or not. I just don't see how assuming a little discomfort means that something is "toxic".


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26490037 - 02/17/20 01:33 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

No I still disagree with you because the mushrooms do not make you sick.

The experience might make you nauseous. Like some people get sea sick but by your logic that means boats are unhealthy.

I forgot the compound in shrooms, chitian? Something like that? But our bodies cant really process it and it does cause some people to have the shits/barf. So you injest tea. Because it filters out the chitan(spelling?).

Tea has never made me ill.. ever. Maybe on high doses but that's because being on an alien world surrounded by beings of light can be really disorienting.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26490041 - 02/17/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Actually the vast majority of consumers don't get sick from mushrooms at all.

It's the chitin in shrooms that cannot be digested, hence lead to some nausea. Make a tea and you are good, you don't have to ingest it to trip.
Some stomach discomfort is caused by the serotonin receptor activation in our gut. Caused by the psilocin itself.
And no, psilocin is no toxin. There are no toxins in shrooms. That's a fact.


Shrooms are safe. :sun:
Noone ever died from eating shrooms. The highest reported ammount found by doctors in a holpitalized person's stomache was 1300g of mushrooms. :smirk:

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Socrateshroom]
    #26490051 - 02/17/20 01:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Pandemoon, I never said shrooms were deadly. Nor did I say folks shouldn't eat them. But I have taken shrooms, and while I never vomited, I definitely didn't feel right in my gut. I was nauseous for a while, and got slight stomach cramps. Great trip, mind you, but my body was definitely telling me it didn't like something in there! lol My mind, on the other hand, loved it! Tripped on shrooms for the first time at a Dead show, waaaaay back in the early eighties. Was a great show, too, at Madison Square Garden. Awesome early Brent stuff, if anyone is into the Dead.

Look, I'm just saying, violently ill, slightly ill, a little nauseous, or even just getting that sickly little feeling in your gut without vomiting. My body is trying to tell me something. Don't get me wrong, I disregard what my body is telling me when I trip, I know that going in. But I think its important to at leash acknowledge there are some symptoms of toxicity, even if you want to argue that they are mild or slight in some cases.

Edit: Oh and just for the sake of dotting my I's, I am very into intermittent fasting as part of my health regimen. And I can tell you that when I have fasted for 12 hours or more, the nasty, obnoxious digestive systems I feel on shrooms and other psychedelics are drastically curbed. So there's that.

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Interesting. I've never seen mushrooms make anyone violently ill. Are you talking about the gas/nausea or the psychological effects?

If the former, I don't see how that is "violently ill". I get slight stomach discomfort and a little gassy from shrooms. Lots of things make me super gassy (more than shrooms) but not in a painful way. I don't see how that is grounds for thinking they are toxic.

I mean I'm no scientist. I have never empirically confirmed, with my own controlled experiments, wether cubes contain toxic chemical or not. I just don't see how assuming a little discomfort means that something is "toxic".




Fair point. I will say that mushrooms are likely much less toxic than other substances like cacti, MG and HBW seeds, etc. I do know people who got violently ill from shrooms, but I have seen less illness from my tripping friends from mushrooms than other plants.

Mushboy, not the same thing. People who get seasick are falling victim to motion sickness in one form or another, arising possibly from slight neurological issues or issues in their inner ear. Taking in chemicals that cause ill effects in the digestive system is an irritant to the system, also known as toxicity, to one degree or another. Its a poor comparison.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26490066 - 02/17/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Agree to disagree is always a good plan.

I don’t ever throw up from tea. Ground up and dried won’t make me even mildly sick, as long as I habituate myself by including edible mushrooms in my normal diet. :shrug:

I will point out that you did it again... “violently ill”? Really? I have had more vomit and pain from eating too many coconut flour cookies than from most Psychedelics I have tried. Acid doesn’t cause vomitting, so it must be healthier than shrooms? I simply refuse to accept that the major reason for getting nauseated is understudied and unnamed toxins. Too scientifically minded to want to use the word “toxic” when referring to food anyway.

You mention that you are using conversational language and therefor are not being as precise as I am demanding, are you sure that isn’t similar to what mushboys first post was? A bit too casual for comfort on a subject you feel strongly about?

I knew I shouldn’t have read anything past:  “First off, nothing I said was ignorant, but before I support my position, let me make it clear”

but, I guess I am a bit of a masochist. I think it’s great to be able to have a variety of opposing views in play, but this kind of argument simply isn’t for me, it is much too tempting for my inner troll.

I will stop tasking you over your opinion and the way it is presented in this thread.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26490067 - 02/17/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

We all know that there are toxins in MG and HBW seeds, precursors to strychnine, if I remember correctly?

No. Unless they contain this: Strychnos alkaloids (strychnine, brucine, vomicine LOL!), and I don't see it listed here.

Argyreia nervosa (Hawaiian Baby Woodrose)
Argyreia nervosa syn. Argyreia speciosa, also known as Hawaiian baby woodrose, elephant creeper and woolly morning glory, is a large climber in the Convolvulaceae plant family and is a relative of the morning glories and bindweeds [83]. In Ayurvedic medicine, every part of the plant including the seed, leaf, bark and root have usage as they possess a broad-range of pharmacological activities such as antimicrobial, antidiarrhoeal, hepatoprotective, anticonvulsant, antioxidant, aphrodisiac, immunomodulatory, analgesic and anti-inflammatory activity [83]. The seeds are the main NPS materials used as a hallucinogen, and have been used traditionally in a number of diseases in India because of their hypotensive, spasmolytic and anti-inflammatory properties while in Hawaii they are used for religious and sacramental purposes [83].

A. nervosa is recognised as a plant containing lysergic acid amide (LSA), also known as ergine (0.04% by weight) (Fig. 14.10) [84], a precursor to lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD, LSD-25), a well-known synthetic hallucinogenic substance and controlled drug of abuse.


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Figure 14.10. Lysergic acid amide (ergine), a component of Hawaiian baby woodrose is structurally similar to LSD.

However, neurological effects of LSA are similar to those of scopolamine and not to LSD despite the high degree of similarity between both structures (Fig. 14.10). The major components in seeds of A. nervosa are alkaloids (0.5–0.9% by weight) [85], mainly the ergoline-type alkaloids including ergine (d-lysergic acid amide, LSA) and isoergine (l-lysergic acid amide, the isomer of LSA). These two natural products are found in the highest percentage at 0.136% and 0.188%, respectively, of total alkaloids along with ergometrine, lysergol, isolysergol and chanoclavine [84,85]. The amount of indole alkaloids present in Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds is the highest among plants in the Convolvulaceae plant family [85] and 10-fold greater than that of Ipomoea violacea (Morning Glory), a related psychoactive plant in the same family.

NPS users consume on average five to ten seeds of Hawaiian baby woodrose, which is equivalent to 0.14% LSA by weight [4,86], by swallowing the whole or crushed seeds as well as drinking an alcoholic extract or an infusion. This material is sometimes used together with marijuana [87]. Reports from users say that the seeds generate LSD-like actions affecting all sensations, nausea, vomiting, mydriasis, impaired motor skills, along with tranquillising effects which can last for as long as six–eight hours [86,88]. Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds can often be confused with the seeds of I. violacea which are normally dosed at 100–300 seeds (0.02% LSA) [4]. Ingesting more than 12 seeds of A. nervosa can cause highly unpleasant effects such as agitation and tachycardia to fatal doses where the LD50 of seed extract is 500 mg/kg of body weight [4,87,89]. There have been a number of clinical reports of toxicity with reports describing mild to serious adverse effects ranging from nausea, vomiting, tachycardia, hypertension, agitation, disturbances in orientation, visual and auditory hallucination, psychosis and anxiety [86,90]. In one case an individual experienced hallucinations after ingesting the seeds together with smoking Cannabis and he was found dead after jumping from a fourth floor


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26490071 - 02/17/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Anyway, I think this debate has run its course, and we are now starting to derail the thread. So you guys respond any way you want, and I will let you all have the last word, and for my part, I will simply agree to disagree. If anyone wants to debate this with me privately, send me a PM. If not, I don't want to continue unintentionally hijacking the OP's thread. Peace! :smile:


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    #26490088 - 02/17/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

”However, neurological effects of LSA are similar to those of scopolamine and not to LSD“

I wonder if scopolamine like effects would account for mr. ft116’s more recent love affair with LSA...

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    #26490092 - 02/17/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Oh that figures, now that the science shows up you are looking for the door?

Lol I am jk jk jk

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    #26490165 - 02/17/20 02:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

(Without wading back into the debate) tyrannicalrex, great post. I enjoyed the science!


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    #26490172 - 02/17/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Apparently, it’s something to do with the chittins (sorry don’t know the spelling). Our bodies struggle to process them and hence cramps or nausea. But get this folks, psilocybin mushrooms are officially classified as poisonous!!!

As the legend that is Terence McKenna once said; “Mushrooms can’t kill you. They can really convince you they can kill you; but they can’t kill you!”

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26490235 - 02/17/20 03:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Dude you hijacked the thread with your boogeyman theory about regular mushroom use being dangerous because of chemicals.


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    #26490260 - 02/17/20 03:13 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It's hilarious. I rather enjoyed Woodrose's health flex.

Interesting debate though.


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    #26490264 - 02/17/20 03:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I would just ignore LSA :shrug:

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CH3C(S)NH2 + H2O → CH3C(O)NH2 + H2S

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: mushboy]
    #26490271 - 02/17/20 03:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Me ex was taught that the outermost ring of the mushroom caps held strychnine, lol! Him and his friends would cut the ring of the caps off, no telling how much they wasted. BUT, he did live in rural OK as a teen, so they are VERY abundant out there.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26490331 - 02/17/20 03:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Since this thread is already a bit off the hinges - I'm going to ask a technical site question that's gone unanswered in the appropriate part of the forum: I can't edit my gender or title in profile settings - when I hit 'submit' I remain an ungendered stranger. I've tried clearing cookies for the site to no avail. Any suggestions?


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490340 - 02/17/20 03:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, it's right there under your account, then edit personal info. you'll see it. Roll down slowly, it's right above the "signature" box to put pics in or write something for your sig.Sometimes the mods will give a person or persons a diff one, but it's only for a day it seems.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26490358 - 02/17/20 04:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Bruh, did you even read my comment? I've done all that, it doesn't work.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490361 - 02/17/20 04:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Hmmm, maybe message a mod.:shrug:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490408 - 02/17/20 04:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Since this thread is already a bit off the hinges - I'm going to ask a technical site question that's gone unanswered in the appropriate part of the forum: I can't edit my gender or title in profile settings - when I hit 'submit' I remain an ungendered stranger. I've tried clearing cookies for the site to no avail. Any suggestions?




You have to reenter the pw field otherwise changes dont take effect.. I think:lol:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: mushboy]
    #26490415 - 02/17/20 04:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Hmmm, maybe message a mod.:shrug:



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Quote:

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Since this thread is already a bit off the hinges - I'm going to ask a technical site question that's gone unanswered in the appropriate part of the forum: I can't edit my gender or title in profile settings - when I hit 'submit' I remain an ungendered stranger. I've tried clearing cookies for the site to no avail. Any suggestions?




You have to reenter the pw field otherwise changes dont take effect.. I think:lol:





Comedy gold right here folks. :rofl2:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: mushboy]
    #26490421 - 02/17/20 04:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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You have to reenter the pw field otherwise changes dont take effect.. I think:lol:




The only pw field I see in that section is to change my pw? :confused:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490425 - 02/17/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well shit.....

Now imma hafta try it out.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany] * 1
    #26490427 - 02/17/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Shroomery.org assumes your gender


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26490433 - 02/17/20 04:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well, I almost went trans-male, but then I saw the teapot option.

Edit: Decided trans-male would get more attention, changed it again.


Click your name next to your post here, then find the edit profile, it’s at the top of the word tree on the bottom of the your profile page.

Scroll a bit, then click  the “gender” button you choose to identify with at the moment. Scroll some more. Submit. No passwords or anything. I did have to zoom in and tap the button 3 times to make it work, so try that?

I’m actually feeling pretty under represented as a proud part of the trans-male-female community. :frown:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490440 - 02/17/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Quote:

mushboy said:
You have to reenter the pw field otherwise changes dont take effect.. I think:lol:




The only pw field I see in that section is to change my pw? :confused:





Ya just reenter it. Maybe I'm wrong but thats what I do when I make edits:shrug:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: mushboy]
    #26490444 - 02/17/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You don't need to lol


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26490455 - 02/17/20 04:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Then what do I need to do?

Reentering my password did nothing.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490458 - 02/17/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yours is set to unspecified because you don't have an icon.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26490461 - 02/17/20 05:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

??? I do have an icon. Is it not showing up for you?

What I see:





Not only can I not change my gender, but neither anything else such as title, occupation, etc.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: bodhisatta]
    #26490465 - 02/17/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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You don't need to lol




The fuk?

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490470 - 02/17/20 05:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Then what do I need to do?




Click around randomly on the screen for a bit, after that, post back and tell us what you see on the screen now.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26490476 - 02/17/20 05:08 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Should I sing "I'm a little teapot" while I'm at it?


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490481 - 02/17/20 05:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Ok, fine. what’s your password? I will just login and do it for you.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater] * 1
    #26490487 - 02/17/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Would you like the last three digits on my credit card too?


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490490 - 02/17/20 05:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

That icon is for your picture gallery
Go to edit profile it's the option right below birthday.

It says gender with a bunch of boxes you can select. I just go unspecified since meat popsicle isnt an option.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: mushboy]
    #26490494 - 02/17/20 05:12 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I know that - when I edit anything in that section and hit 'submit' it makes no changes.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490508 - 02/17/20 05:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Functionality seems to be working on my end, so, it’s either user error or the whole account is corrupt,  lets have you delete your account and start over with a new one. Ok?


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26490513 - 02/17/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Lol, it’s probably time to upgrade your service. Sorry, I have worked tech support, and I can’t help but laugh a little.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490520 - 02/17/20 05:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I know that - when I edit anything in that section and hit 'submit' it makes no changes.




Correct. Same thing happens to me unless I enter my pw info in the change pw field scroll down select male/female/reptilian and hit submit.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26490627 - 02/17/20 06:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Functionality seems to be working on my end, so, it’s either user error or the whole account is corrupt,  lets have you delete your account and start over with a new one. Ok?




Way ahead of you, buddy. Gonna delete system 32.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26490637 - 02/17/20 06:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Lol, if you do, don’t tell me your new name right away... it will be more fun that way. :laugh:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26490666 - 02/17/20 06:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

For all who tripped multiple times in a row:

Did you have to use much higher dosage the next trips?

I heared its proven, that lysergic acids (and probably psylocin) build up strong tolerance. DMT does not.

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: SpearCaps]
    #26490671 - 02/17/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Listen, just wait a month or 2, why the need to trip so much or take so much at a time in such a short time? I have never understood that.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26490677 - 02/17/20 07:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LSA Woodrose]
    #26490863 - 02/17/20 09:34 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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But these drugs, particularly the ones that are VERY HARD on your digestive system and your cardiovascular system, invariably have some negative effects on the human body.





Are you talking about mushrooms here?  Because this is complete BS - and I speak from personal experience, tripping many times a week for long periods, with, of course, all due care. :cookiemonster:

And outstanding results. :awesomenod:

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However, with mushrooms, or any substance that makes you sick to the point of moderate to severe nausea, possible cramps, rare cases of diarrhea, and other intestinal symptoms.




:thataintright:

Well fuck, man, that's 'cause you're doing it wrong. It's the chitin in raw mushrooms that causes your digestive distress.  That, and if you eat a full meal before a heavy trip you'll experience a slowing of digestion due to the serotonin receptors in the gut interacting with psilocin.  This is all well established, and easy to verify for yourself.

Make tea, boil them to hell, strain the chunks, and take after a few hours fast.  You'll be golden with none of those effects.

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As for specific chemicals, shrooms have not been studied extensively for their exact pharmacological effects in the body.




This isn't true either.:shrug:

And sorry, no, I haven't read all of this thread.  I....just....can't.... :horrified:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany] * 2
    #26490882 - 02/17/20 10:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Since this thread is already a bit off the hinges - I'm going to ask a technical site question that's gone unanswered in the appropriate part of the forum: I can't edit my gender or title in profile settings - when I hit 'submit' I remain an ungendered stranger. I've tried clearing cookies for the site to no avail. Any suggestions?





Your account is probably too new and you're forced to post as an ungendered stranger.  But that's just a guess.  You could ask a mod.

Oh wait, you did ask a mod. :laugh2:


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For all who tripped multiple times in a row:

Did you have to use much higher dosage the next trips?

I heared its proven, that lysergic acids (and probably psylocin) build up strong tolerance. DMT does not.






OK, two birds.  Tolerance with psilocin IME reaches a plateau at around 4-5 times the baseline dosage, after that it stops increasing and you can trip daily for as long as you like.  I increase the dose 50% each successive day until it hits the plateau - so for fresh shrooms as tea, that'd be like 50 g no tolerance, 75 g 2nd day, 110 g, 170 g, 250 g, 250 g, etc.  If you skip a day you drop back to previous dosage, skip two days drop back two.  Simple but it all takes a lot of shrooms. 

But totally worthwhile. :awesomenod:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #26491257 - 02/18/20 07:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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OK, two birds.  Tolerance with psilocin IME reaches a plateau at around 4-5 times the baseline dosage, after that it stops increasing and you can trip daily for as long as you like.  I increase the dose 50% each successive day until it hits the plateau - so for fresh shrooms as tea, that'd be like 50 g no tolerance, 75 g 2nd day, 110 g, 170 g, 250 g, 250 g, etc.  If you skip a day you drop back to previous dosage, skip two days drop back two.  Simple but it all takes a lot of shrooms. 

But totally worthwhile. :awesomenod:




That is interesting to hear but might be different for every person with tolerance?. I imagine someone shugging 250g of fresh mushrooms is more work than pleasure :laugh:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26491417 - 02/18/20 09:27 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I’ve just tried myself; click your username top left. Scroll down click edit profile. Change your gender. Scroll down click submit. Voila. I’ve just become female then gone back to male, no password needed 😎


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26491478 - 02/18/20 09:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26491563 - 02/18/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I’ve just tried myself; click your username top left. Scroll down click edit profile. Change your gender. Scroll down click submit. Voila. I’ve just become female then gone back to male, no password needed ��



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That's what I tried to tell them.




And I've tried to tell you guys: I'VE DONE THAT. Multiple times! No changes take place. If I change my gender, title, occupation, etc, and click 'submit', nothing happens. That is my problem. It's not that I don't know how, it's that it DOESN'T WORK.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #26491580 - 02/18/20 11:02 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

"Help! I'm stuck in an elevator!"

"It's okay buddy, just press the 'down' button."

"It doesn't work! I'm stuck!"

"I pressed the 'down' button on my elevator and it's fine."

"But the 'down' button in MY elevator is not functioning."

"Have you tried pressing the 'down' button?"

"YES"

"Lol calm down."


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26491655 - 02/18/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

LOL! I saw that movie on mushrooms! Was pretty fucking epic!


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    #26491779 - 02/18/20 01:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I’ve just tried myself; click your username top left. Scroll down click edit profile. Change your gender. Scroll down click submit. Voila. I’ve just become female then gone back to male, no password needed ��



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That's what I tried to tell them.




And I've tried to tell you guys: I'VE DONE THAT. Multiple times! No changes take place. If I change my gender, title, occupation, etc, and click 'submit', nothing happens. That is my problem. It's not that I don't know how, it's that it DOESN'T WORK.




Ok, calm down sir, we are here to help you. Can I get some more information, such as, what device are you logging in with, is it a phone, or laptop?

Do you know what browser you are using, if so, what is it?

Have you tried logging into your account on another device?


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26491871 - 02/18/20 02:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Ok, calm down sir, we are here to help you. Can I get some more information, such as, what device are you logging in with, is it a phone, or laptop?

Do you know what browser you are using, if so, what is it?

Have you tried logging into your account on another device?




First of all, I am a ma'am. How DARE you assume my gender on a thread in which I specifically mention body functions specific to females? If only the correct gender were being displayed on my profile, this all could have been avoided!

Jokes aside, it would seem that editing my profile on my phone instead of the PC has worked. Thank you for your help, Shr00m :heart:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany]
    #26491875 - 02/18/20 02:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

LoL, glad I could help, have a great day. 😊


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: SpearCaps]
    #26491974 - 02/18/20 03:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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OK, two birds.  Tolerance with psilocin IME reaches a plateau at around 4-5 times the baseline dosage, after that it stops increasing and you can trip daily for as long as you like.  I increase the dose 50% each successive day until it hits the plateau - so for fresh shrooms as tea, that'd be like 50 g no tolerance, 75 g 2nd day, 110 g, 170 g, 250 g, 250 g, etc.  If you skip a day you drop back to previous dosage, skip two days drop back two.  Simple but it all takes a lot of shrooms. 

But totally worthwhile. :awesomenod:




That is interesting to hear but might be different for every person with tolerance?. I imagine someone shugging 250g of fresh mushrooms is more work than pleasure :laugh:





It's exactly the same as an ordinary full dose.  Besides, it's tea and it makes a few chugs, maybe 120cc when done right.  Down the hatch with a chaser just like anything else.  Most people I've heard from who've done this much have the same sort of experience with tolerance BTW.  The rest just make shit up about it. :laugh2:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Coulrophany] * 1
    #26492099 - 02/18/20 05:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It is a total and complete myth that you can't trip on back to back days or that it's not worth it.

I've done it many times, both mushrooms and LSD, and some of my most beautiful trips came on the 2nd day of a back to back.

But yes I do double the dose on day two.


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    #26492173 - 02/18/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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But yes I do double the dose on day two.




This has been my experience. I must increase the dose or the subsequent trip is very mild, comparatively.

Happens the next day with any moderate-strong dose (200ug+ LSD, 3g+ mushrooms). Or relatively quickly with light-moderate doses, about 3 days give or take.

Either way I have noticed tolerance build up. Not to say eating psychedelics daily for a week+ did not have effect on the last dose, just the strength of said dose was drastically diminished.

If you guys can trip days in a row with the same dose i am jealous.

Then again i can eat like a pig and never gain weight so i guess everyone is dealt a different set of cards.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: BabylonRuleDem] * 1
    #26492186 - 02/18/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

My head hurts after reading most of these posts:lol:

I've never tried tripping more than one day in a row.. just never felt the need to really do so though. I believe doing what you want opposed to listening to other people is what teaches the most lessons - hands on if you will.

Some people just put all of these checklists on tripping.. like "gotta have this, gotta have that" - while I do agree with some of it, some of it is just too much.

Look at you, if you would have listened to some people you would have never had that experience. But then again, there's not much you can do after you take the dose - and you're not going to die... worse that's going to happen is a few hours of discomfort until you're right back where you started.


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    #26492192 - 02/18/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Some people just put all of these checklists on tripping.. like "gotta have this, gotta have that" - while I do agree with some of it, some of it is just too much.





I agree. My checklist is be at home and have weed.

But some people prep to the extreme and I think that gets people into trouble. Trying controlling the experience is a lesson in futility imo.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: BabylonRuleDem] * 1
    #26492303 - 02/18/20 06:48 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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But yes I do double the dose on day two.




This has been my experience. I must increase the dose or the subsequent trip is very mild, comparatively.






Yeah if I just do the same dose the next day it'll be diminished to the point where it's not worth it for me. But doubled -- oh yeah, man. Almost always a great time.

There's something to be said about the comfort level of a day two trip. All the confusion and anxiety of a trip is gone for me, leaving crystal clear (but yet still profound) thoughts. Best I can describe it is a just significantly more comfortable experience but still with all 100% of the fun. Idk I know that everyone differs wildly when it comes to this stuff but for me personally this has been my experience.

Seriously a lot of my most amazing trips came on the 2nd day of a back to back. Only thing is, man it's sooooooo hard to be able to do. I mean the time alone needed to go on such an endeavor...you would basically need a minimum of 72 hours.

The first 24 hours for trip #1 (sleep included), the next 24 for trip #2 (sleep included), and then another 24 for a recovery day. And then of course you need enough mushrooms or L just to be blowing on back to backs. That type of time frame just isn't very feasible for most.


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    #26492304 - 02/18/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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But some people prep to the extreme and I think that gets people into trouble. Trying controlling the experience is a lesson in futility imo.




Man this is well stated. Sometimes I've been guilty of that more than I 'd like to admit. Sometimes it's so much better to keep things simple. Just dose and go with the flow.


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    #26492497 - 02/18/20 08:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

i know i have. its how i really started to understand how controlling i can sometimes be without even noticing it. its hard turning that kinda internal circuitry off but:shrug:

do mushrooms everyday for a month. an 8th of cubes or 1-2g ape/pe. i wanted to see what would happen. and dayum:awesomenod:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Niffla]
    #26492729 - 02/19/20 01:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well put Niffla. U can take shrooms back to back sequentially as long as u up the dose on the second day. Its really that simple.

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26492734 - 02/19/20 01:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

ofc you can trip day after day, it just means the last dose you did you will have to double it, sometimes triple. Also some people just get shitty drugs lul. if you have good quality shit she'll be right :super:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: mushboy]
    #26493195 - 02/19/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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i know i have. its how i really started to understand how controlling i can sometimes be without even noticing it. its hard turning that kinda internal circuitry off but:shrug:

do mushrooms everyday for a month. an 8th of cubes or 1-2g ape/pe. i wanted to see what would happen. and dayum:awesomenod:




Not been back to back tripping, unless you’d equate 3.8g dry B+ every 2 weeks without fail for the last 5 months as back to back. I’ve learned so much on how to trip better, and each trip I have gone deeper and further. I’ve learned to let go so much quicker and less painfully, and I’ve also learned a lot about myself. In relation to your point above, I’ve decided I have been somewhat of a “narcissist”. I started to hate myself for this, but given my current mushroom therapy I’ve learned also to stop the negative hating myself thinking and take positive action instead. I’ve healed loads of broken relationships already. The narcissistic tendencies will probably always be there, but now I’ve noticed what a twat I can be, I am making changes.

I look forward to the day when I can truly say I love myself, but without any of the narcissistic excess baggage, if that makes any kind of sense?

It’s kind of ironic, but mushrooms showing you what a twat you are can be very therapeutic!

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: DJ Ed] * 1
    #26493280 - 02/19/20 11:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I am in sheer awe that this topic is back on topic, excellent work everyone!


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    #26493302 - 02/19/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If I had a penny...
Seriously, the most common theme of my trips, especially the comedowns, is me facepalming while thinking back to my douche-y behavior. I try to take note of everything and make up said douche-y behavior to the people affected, but it’s not always possible.
It’s always a rude awakening too. Like I’m basking in the glory of an insightful trip, having deep internal dialogue, and all of a sudden the mushrooms go “woah, hold your horses there, big guru. You got a whole lot more character flaws to work out before you even try to seek true enlightenment.”


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26493550 - 02/19/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Well put Niffla. U can take shrooms back to back sequentially as long as u up the dose on the second day. Its really that simple.

Also, welcome Lady OP to the Shroomery. I see youre fitting in just fine :shroomeryhead:





Yeah, it's not rocket science.  My checklist during those times is very short:  "Got mush?"  :cookiemonster:


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: PrimalSoup] * 2
    #26493710 - 02/19/20 04:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I haven't read through the entire thread....

....but on the topic of tripping multiple days in a row and tolerance, it works just fine for me with mushrooms (LSD, not so much).



Even if I take the same dose I still get damn near as far out as the first day, I don't even have to double up (but it helps to)...I do always end up taking more when tripping a 2nd or 3rd day in a row, but there have been a few times where on the 2nd day I started with 1g of cyans and it still did the trick (where the previous night I had started with 1g of cyans and re-dosed another 2g to 3g through out the night).

In some ways I feel I can go deeper/farther out with more clarity that 2nd day.



One particular time that I had tripped for 3 days in a row (first night, 3g cyans through out the night...2nd night, 2 hits of LSD + 3g to 4g of cyans thru the night + 200mg of MDMA)...on that 3rd night I started with about 2g of cyans in a tea (same batch of tea I was drinking all weekend), and for some reason that 2g of cyans hit me very strongly and in a very unqiue way that was remarkably similar to, pretty much identical to, the way that smoked DMT hits me. I've been meaning to actually make a thread about that time, it was super duper strange. All I can think of is maybe my enzymes were all out of wack from everything I had taken the previous nights :shrug: .

Another time that mushrooms really shined through "tolerance"....At the Oregon eclipse gathering I took about 150mcg of LSD on night one, the 2nd night I took about 150mg of mdma and 3g of cyans through out the night, the 3rd day/night I didn't take any psychedelic drugs, the 4th day was the day of the eclipse and shortly after waking up I took somewhere around 500mcg to 600mcg of LSD. I ended up eating another gel tab or two a little while after because I wasn't really feeling much. So around a total of near 600mcg to 700mcg of LSD and I did not feel a damn thing from it at all, nothing....After the eclipse I took a nap, I woke up later that afternoon and dosed some MDMA and drank the last of my mushroom tea (maybe 2g of cyans)....Even after all of that LSD I ate earlier in the day, which did absolutely nothing for me because of tolerance from the previous days/nights, even after all of that the mushrooms still did the trick for me with visuals and all :yesnod: .

Mushrooms always work for me, even with "tolerance"...The main thing I notice is the peak/main portion of the trip is just a bit shorter in duration, but I almost always just keep drinking more tea.

I always trip for 3 nights in a row at festivals, and mushrooms do the trick for me every night..LSD is super sensitive to tolerance/cross tolerance so I usually only take it one night (along with mushrooms, and sometimes MDMA or MDA too lol).



But yea...I know a lot of folks go on about spacing out trips and allowing time to "integrate" between doses/trips....But one of the ways I like to work with mushrooms is having trips 2 nights in a row, sometimes three :yesnod: . That 2nd night is always my favorite, the first night is just getting thing started lol.




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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: openmind] * 3
    #26493745 - 02/19/20 05:13 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Clarity is it.  Multiple days, multiple trips synergize to a much elevated experience. :awesomenod:

Dunno why so many people seem afraid of this or downright deny it.  But that's their problem. :goodday:


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    #26493790 - 02/19/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Not much experience, but the few times I have tripped day-to-day, it is the experience from the second day that has stuck in my mind.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: openmind] * 2
    #26493952 - 02/19/20 07:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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If I had a penny...
Seriously, the most common theme of my trips, especially the comedowns, is me facepalming while thinking back to my douche-y behavior. I try to take note of everything and make up said douche-y behavior to the people affected, but it’s not always possible.
It’s always a rude awakening too. Like I’m basking in the glory of an insightful trip, having deep internal dialogue, and all of a sudden the mushrooms go “woah, hold your horses there, big guru. You got a whole lot more character flaws to work out before you even try to seek true enlightenment.”




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I go through the same thing virtually every trip

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In some ways I feel I can go deeper/farther out with more clarity that 2nd day.







Yep. Exactly. On the second day things tend to be so much more clear and defined. And the anxiety is gone.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26495326 - 02/20/20 02:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Clarity is it.  Multiple days, multiple trips synergize to a much elevated experience. :awesomenod:





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Not much experience, but the few times I have tripped day-to-day, it is the experience from the second day that has stuck in my mind.





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In some ways I feel I can go deeper/farther out with more clarity that 2nd day.







Yep. Exactly. On the second day things tend to be so much more clear and defined. And the anxiety is gone.







Absolutely :yesnod: .

Cool to hear I'm not the only one that has noticed the same aspects.



During the 2nd trip/night...There is virtually no come up for me, at least not in the classic/typical way that mushroom trips usually come up for me (feeling cold, sedated/lethargic, slowed cognition, some underlying anxiety/feeling on edge, just generally wanting to curl up in a ball and waiting for the come up to pass lol)...Most of those aspects are non-existent for me during the come up on the 2nd trip, but I still do feel a little bit of the sedated/slow/lethargic feels for a short while when initially coming up. I feel so much sharper, more coherent & clear that 2nd trip while simultaneously being higher/farther out. 


I'm likely going to be doing some back to back trips this weekend and/or next week....Mostly mushrooms but I might combine them with some mescaline one of the days. It's been a while for me, I haven't tripped much over the past couple years. It is much needed.





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    #26495354 - 02/20/20 02:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

People, you’ve got me really intrigued. It sounds so plausible going deeper the next day for less anxiety and les come up.

So let me get this straight, so I’m absolutely sure. If I want to trip back to back days with mushrooms, do I double the dose on day 2? Do I fast the same etc on day 2 as I would for day 1?

One other thought, say if you were a bit timid about doing a 5g dose. Would you say do a 3.5g dose day 1 then instead of 7g on day 2, do 10g on day 2?

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    #26495673 - 02/20/20 05:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Less anxiety on a re-dose the same day too.

Drink a second cup about 30-45 mins after the first. If you wait too long it extends more than boosts.

I don’t do that regular. But, it works, it’s fun. Need to drink the second cup before the peak. You want to still be going up as the second cup kicks in. If you are already aware you are coming down, don’t bother.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26495684 - 02/20/20 05:23 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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During the 2nd trip/night...There is virtually no come up for me, at least not in the classic/typical way that mushroom trips usually come up for me (feeling cold, sedated/lethargic, slowed cognition, some underlying anxiety/feeling on edge, just generally wanting to curl up in a ball and waiting for the come up to pass lol)...Most of those aspects are non-existent for me during the come up on the 2nd trip, but I still do feel a little bit of the sedated/slow/lethargic feels for a short while when initially coming up. I feel so much sharper, more coherent & clear that 2nd trip while simultaneously being higher/farther out. 







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People, you’ve got me really intrigued. It sounds so plausible going deeper the next day for less anxiety and les come up.

So let me get this straight, so I’m absolutely sure. If I want to trip back to back days with mushrooms, do I double the dose on day 2? Do I fast the same etc on day 2 as I would for day 1?

One other thought, say if you were a bit timid about doing a 5g dose. Would you say do a 3.5g dose day 1 then instead of 7g on day 2, do 10g on day 2?






The basic rule on tripping on consecutive days is to at least double the dose, yes. I've gotten away with just upping the dose on the 2nd day as opposed to doubling it (like doing 3 grams on day 1 and then 5 grams on day 2), but to be sure I'd double it. Otherwise you could possibly find day two a little underwhelming.

As far as going from 3.5 to 10 (on day two), I think there's a good chance that you'd be much more prepared for that level of a trip than say doing 5 on day one -- that said that's still a steep dose. I would expect to be tripping face going from 3.5 to 10 on day two. Obviously.


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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: Niffla] * 1
    #26495688 - 02/20/20 05:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Oh and when it comes to fasting the same on day two, sure, I'd keep all that stuff relatively the same as you usually do going into a trip.


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    #26495799 - 02/20/20 06:28 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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People, you’ve got me really intrigued. It sounds so plausible going deeper the next day for less anxiety and les come up.

So let me get this straight, so I’m absolutely sure. If I want to trip back to back days with mushrooms, do I double the dose on day 2? Do I fast the same etc on day 2 as I would for day 1?

One other thought, say if you were a bit timid about doing a 5g dose. Would you say do a 3.5g dose day 1 then instead of 7g on day 2, do 10g on day 2?

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Dosage will vary and you'll have to experiment.  I found 50% more each successive day was about right, and I've done it that way many times now.  Doubling a dose is 4x, 50% more is 2x (roughly), speaking to the actual effects. 

What will happen is the second day you'll be much less concerned about the dosage and eager to just go back again, but it's just as possible to overdo it.  I would not recommend 3.5 and then 10 though, that 10g is almost 10 times the effect of the 3.5, so you'll likely get a 7g trip instead the second day, well outside your comfort zone.


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    #26495829 - 02/20/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Dosage will vary and you'll have to experiment.  I found 50% more each successive day was about right, and I've done it that way many times now.  Doubling a dose is 4x, 50% more is 2x (roughly), speaking to the actual effects. 

What will happen is the second day you'll be much less concerned about the dosage and eager to just go back again, but it's just as possible to overdo it.  I would not recommend 3.5 and then 10 though, that 10g is almost 10 times the effect of the 3.5, so you'll likely get a 7g trip instead the second day, well outside your comfort zone.




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    #26495837 - 02/20/20 06:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

" Yes , I can trip two days in a row"
Would've been a far better heading.

Each individual has their own individual outcomes.

Just because you experience a substance in a certain way it doesnt mean everybody does.
It's good to hear and discuss similarity of experiences but do it knowing yours is yours alone.


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    #26496353 - 02/21/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you PrimalSoup.

So I think I have this. Using easy numbers: day 1 5g, day 2 +50% = 7.5g to give an equivalent day 1 5g trip........

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    #26496354 - 02/21/20 01:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thank you, niffla,

I think I’ve misunderstood Primal’s maths. He talks about day 2, 50% = x2. But yourself and others talk about doubling.

I’m obviously s bit slow........

Day 1: 5g
Day 2: double = 10g
Or
Day 2: 50% = 7.5g

I suppose at the end of the day you are all saying it’s what works for you. So only way to find out for sure is to take the plunge.

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Re: Yes, You CAN Trip Two Days In A Row - In a Bad Mood, On Period [Re: DJ Ed]
    #26496722 - 02/21/20 09:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Look, most people talk about doubling.  I didn't find that necessary.  You might.  Try it out and see what happens.  Twice the dose on day 1 is 4 times the effect, this is pretty normal.  Find out what your tolerance is after 24 hours, then do the math appropriately.

Also ANYBODY who gets to the tolerance plateau I've mentioned many times, I'd love to hear about it.  Because I thought, originally, the dose just goes up and up - but it doesn't.  Maybe some people have a much lower one, who knows?


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Thank you, I’ll try 5g then 7.5g next.

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