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MountainDude1
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Unidentified fruiting 1
#26487683 - 02/15/20 10:02 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Greetings to all.
Using the PF Tek method,I birthed cakes a week ago that have produced the growths in this pic. Can anyone identify what these appear to be? The spores were labeled golden teacher, but I’m not so sure.
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BlueTryptoYoshi
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Weird... is the cake contaminated? Looks like growth tried but died...
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I’ve definitely had something similar..

I attributed it to a some rogue species in my syringe.
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Those are oysters.
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: bodhisatta]
#26487759 - 02/15/20 11:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Are they really? The caps look really odd and the whole stem-body is different, more dynamic.
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: bodhisatta]
#26487778 - 02/16/20 12:36 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Those are oysters.
You never know. Some guy like 2 weeks ago got Enokis on a BRF cake from a GT syringe. https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/26466161
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: bodhisatta]
#26487828 - 02/16/20 02:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Those are oysters.

that happens when oysters dont have enough fresh air. they get all long and lanky
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: Ziran]
#26487852 - 02/16/20 02:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey if you can't get a trip off those, now you can make some fresh straganoff XD. (I'm sorry, I had to) hopefully you have some gold caps pop up.
If not, contact the company who sold that to you.
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: Mimik]
#26487972 - 02/16/20 07:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Spores101 or ralphsters is my guess
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: bodhisatta]
#26488034 - 02/16/20 08:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Make sure you let them know it's the wrong variety under the microscope. In your microscopy findings it's not what you ordered.
this happened to my when I had a contaminated az syringe. They asked for the batch number and sent out a new one no problem.
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I was wondering myself about whether any common sort of contamination would generate its own mushroom fruit.
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: fahtster]
#26488074 - 02/16/20 09:28 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks
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Not sure what they are, but those aren't oysters. In this thread Workman suggests Collybia.
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Workman said: I grew mushrooms but they don't look right
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A less common but not rare contaminate, sometimes mistaken for Panaeolus or malformed Pleurotus (oyster mushrooms). The mushrooms are small and thin with white spores. The cap and stem are the same color, usually grayish. Reported about once a year on this forum. This is almost certainly a collection of similar species since there is some variability in appearance. Collybia is a possible genus. The contamination source is apparently environmental spore load. Not active or edible, possibly poisonous. DO NOT EAT!

Threads with for above images
Rahz (2005) bensoncd1990 (2007) juggaloskater (2008) gmarkball (2011) Scarousel (2012) F4112N (2012) capncaveman (2014)
Microscopy of juggaloskater specimen

The reports of this rarer type of contaminate are hard to find in the forums since they lack common search keywords, so let me know if I missed any. I am pretty sure I've seen a few more over the years.
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: bodhisatta]
#26488078 - 02/16/20 09:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The spores came from one of the better reviewed suppliers. I have already heard back from them. They said they will immediately send out a replacement.
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Yes, that looks a lot like what is growing in my sgfc! And so what you are saying is that it likely originated with spore contamination from the source?
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Quote:
foragedfungus said: Not sure what they are, but those aren't oysters. In this thread Workman suggests Collybia.
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Workman said: I grew mushrooms but they don't look right
------------------ #2 Small Gray Unknown (Spikes)
A less common but not rare contaminate, sometimes mistaken for Panaeolus or malformed Pleurotus (oyster mushrooms). The mushrooms are small and thin with white spores. The cap and stem are the same color, usually grayish. Reported about once a year on this forum. This is almost certainly a collection of similar species since there is some variability in appearance. Collybia is a possible genus. The contamination source is apparently environmental spore load. Not active or edible, possibly poisonous. DO NOT EAT!

Threads with for above images
Rahz (2005) bensoncd1990 (2007) juggaloskater (2008) gmarkball (2011) Scarousel (2012) F4112N (2012) capncaveman (2014)
Microscopy of juggaloskater specimen

The reports of this rarer type of contaminate are hard to find in the forums since they lack common search keywords, so let me know if I missed any. I am pretty sure I've seen a few more over the years.
Yea i didn't look too close. The ones OP have are definitely not oysters on closer inspection. The caps are a dead giveaway
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Quote:
fahtster said: I’ve definitely had something similar..

I attributed it to a some rogue species in my syringe.
Faht
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foragedfungus said: Not sure what they are, but those aren't oysters. In this thread Workman suggests
Quote:
Workman said: I grew mushrooms but they don't look right
------------------ #2 Small Gray Unknown (Spikes)
A less common but not rare contaminate, sometimes mistaken for Panaeolus or malformed Pleurotus (oyster mushrooms). The mushrooms are small and thin with white spores. The cap and stem are the same color, usually grayish. Reported about once a year on this forum. This is almost certainly a collection of similar species since there is some variability in appearance. Collybia is a possible genus. The contamination source is apparently environmental spore load. Not active or edible, possibly poisonous. DO NOT EAT!

Threads with for above images
Rahz (2005) bensoncd1990 (2007) juggaloskater (2008) gmarkball (2011) Scarousel (2012) F4112N (2012) capncaveman (2014)
Microscopy of juggaloskater specimen

The reports of this rarer type of contaminate are hard to find in the forums since they lack common search keywords, so let me know if I missed any. I am pretty sure I've seen a few more over the years.
Thanks foragedfungus. When you say the contamination is caused by environmental spore load, does that imply that the spores I ordered were contaminated, or that the contamination occurred during inoculation?
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foragedfungus!
They almost look like pans but highly doubtful. Strange but cool.
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Whats up buddy? Thanks for the hike!
 
Mountaindude1 Most of that is a quote. All I said is that they aren't cubes, or oysters. Could be a contaminated syringe, or your cake prep, maybe it got in during a sloppy inoculation, spores could've even just floated in during fruiting and been aggressive enough... You should take a spore print and lots of good pictures and post in the hunting and ID forum. Someone there may know what they are. Then throw 'em in the compost and try again.
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Thats a nice shot man! Love that hike but damn is it brutal. My legs were pretty sore for a solid day or 2 after. I'm out of shape 
@OP- probably a contaminated syringe, but it's hard to say definitively.
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Environmental load usually means spores just floating around in the grow room.
AFAIK.
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It is interesting that they grow along side P cubes, I wonder if they are parasitics. Because one of the quoted pictures has a cube growing on the same cake. I have seen this on this site before.
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: Sockadin]
#26488273 - 02/16/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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They look dangerous. Not something my eyes deem safe at all. Take caution and dispose, goodluck on identifying if you do, let us know.... scary af lol
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: bodhisatta]
#26488279 - 02/16/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I don't think those are oyster. Only because I made the mistake of labeling wrong and putting blue oysters to mono tubs. They did grow long and weird like but the cap did not look like the regular helmet mushroom. It was distinguishly still an oyster mushroom cap just small. Post it on the identification forum.
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: mycopanda]
#26488280 - 02/16/20 11:56 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The only type of contam I ran into that produced it's own mushroom fruit was not pasteurizing correctly and getting inky caps along with my shrooms...
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I'm thinking the lab that sold this to him had an obvious cross contamination issue with there spores. Curious on who sold it to you so I never in life order from them.
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Quote:
foragedfungus said: Not sure what they are, but those aren't oysters. In this thread Workman suggests Collybia.
Quote:
Workman said: I grew mushrooms but they don't look right
------------------ #2 Small Gray Unknown (Spikes)
A less common but not rare contaminate, sometimes mistaken for Panaeolus or malformed Pleurotus (oyster mushrooms). The mushrooms are small and thin with white spores. The cap and stem are the same color, usually grayish. Reported about once a year on this forum. This is almost certainly a collection of similar species since there is some variability in appearance. Collybia is a possible genus. The contamination source is apparently environmental spore load. Not active or edible, possibly poisonous. DO NOT EAT!

Threads with for above images
Rahz (2005) bensoncd1990 (2007) juggaloskater (2008) gmarkball (2011) Scarousel (2012) F4112N (2012) capncaveman (2014)
Microscopy of juggaloskater specimen

The reports of this rarer type of contaminate are hard to find in the forums since they lack common search keywords, so let me know if I missed any. I am pretty sure I've seen a few more over the years.
I think this is dead on because it is not an oyster mushroom. I've made that mistake and even a oyster with not enough fae wont grow a helmet cap. I recently had this mistake happen and there was no doubt by the cap that it was oyster.
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Much appreciated foragedfungus. I might try using a pressure cooker my next go around.
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: mycopanda]
#26488361 - 02/16/20 12:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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mycopanda said: I'm thinking the lab that sold this to him had an obvious cross contamination issue with there spores. Curious on who sold it to you so I never in life order from them.
I got the spores from a reputable vendor. They are giving me the benefit of the doubt and sending a new batch, even though I’m not 100% whether it was their fault or mine. At this point, even though it totally sucks to have wasted this much time, I am giving them a positive review and would still do business with them.
Edited by MountainDude1 (02/16/20 10:21 PM)
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Re: Unidentified fruiting [Re: A.k.a]
#26488370 - 02/16/20 12:48 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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A.k.a said: Environmental load usually means spores just floating around in the grow room.
AFAIK.
Ah - got it. Thanks for the clarification.
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Most likely contaminated syringe. And don't post vendors cause you know, Against the rules. Might want to edit that out.
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