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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26485646 - 02/14/20 03:25 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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you just posted propaganda used to trick undereducated masses. A bit of logic will tell you that not JUST retail jobs are lost when a small business closes down.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114] 1
#26485649 - 02/14/20 03:27 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Its from Investopedia. Is that propaganda? They seem quite critical of Amazon.
But Im sure its all a big conspiracy and I will be called a fascist in no time
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
#26485650 - 02/14/20 03:28 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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susurrador said: I vote Feldman dictator of all hoarded funds.
Hoarded funds includes any monies he doesn't see going towards concerts or otherwise circulating in ways he deems appropriate.
You'll probably have to supply credentials at the very least. Any econ background? Accounting? Math? Nevermind all that.
He's got a rough idea.

When the vast majority of wealth is concentrated in the very few hands, it becomes non-stimulative to the overall economy and that's exactly what we see today.
Check out the velocity of money, it's at all-time low. That's called economic depression for the bottom 80%.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: qman]
#26485661 - 02/14/20 03:38 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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sorry, I’m done doing your research on this topic. Investopia is an affiliate for banking products...
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
#26485663 - 02/14/20 03:40 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Maybe propaganda is the wrong word. I should have said misleading info. Still, retail jobs are a tiny piece of the big picture.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26485684 - 02/14/20 04:00 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Tripsurfer said:

Looks like the increase in Amazon employees is a lot higher than the decrease of Non-Amazon retail jobs
Way to prove my point.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: feldman114]
#26485690 - 02/14/20 04:07 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Funny you say that. Every article I find on Amazon and the Economy is mainly focussed on retail. I worked in a family owned retail shop myself years ago and we also closed because we couldnt keep up with online sales. Everybody got a new job and the location was rented out again and turned into a fancy food shop 
That was about it
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: christopera]
#26485692 - 02/14/20 04:08 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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What do you mean? seems like the grand total of jobs increased as Amazon increased in size
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26485966 - 02/14/20 07:04 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Holy crap, I come back to this thread after 1 day and there are another 8 pages.
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LogicaL Chaos said: That does make sense.
If i offer $20 an hour verus $19 an hour, i would have the competitive edge because more workers would want to work for me rather than you.
The issue is Jeff Bezos is making all this profit at the expense of his employers who do the labor. If he raised the starting wage for an Amazon position across the whole company, he would make less profit BUT would have a more ethical company overall. And a more ethical company would increase moral, standard of living for the employees and increase quality in labor skills due to the competition of higher wages.
At what point does a CEO make "too much" profit from his company? Does Jeff Bezos has to have a Trillion dollars in his bank accounts to throw up a red flag of unethical company practices? Will the Free Market always him the extra benefit cause its his company and not the employee the benefit? Why cant the employees have more shares in the profit?
If you were having a hard time finding people to work for you for 19 then yes. then lets say things change and there is a surplus of people who want the position. one of them could get ahead of his/her competition by taking a lower wage. Its all about supply and demand.
I dont see how paying somebody the amount they agreed to when they took the job is in anyway unethical.
again, its about supply and demand. They arent having a problem finding employees so there is no need to offer a higher wage.
He actually did raise Amazon's minimum wage to 15 an hour and as a result of that his competitors did the same.
the reality is that the money will do alot of good for mankind when it is concentrated like that and in the hands of someone who invests in new, innovative products and services that raise our quality of life as well as create jobs, and he has also given billions to charity as I've mentioned.
people being allowed to engage in transactions between willing parties and own the fruits of those transactions is what has made our lives exponentially better in the last 200 year.
besides. its immoral to feel entitled to someone else's money. why dont you start a successful business if you want to make more money and if you want to decide what wages should be? dont wait around for handouts. go out and make things happen.
If he raised Amazon's minimum wage to 20 you guys would be telling him to raise it to 25. you would also be upset that Amazon prime or something costs so much now. Like I said, its all about supply and demand. You cant expect to just manipulate the market in whatever way you see fit and have things work out the way you wanted. every action you take to tinker with the market has an equal and opposite reaction.
I also bet that if he did increase his wages as a way of being more competitive a bunch of people would accuse him of putting small competitors out of business and monopolizing. It seems like successful people just cant win.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26486003 - 02/14/20 07:22 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said: I am not rich but want to become rich one dat. If I do not reach my goal I will have nobody to blame but myself. It's nobody else's responsibility to make sure I am successful.
It wont be jeff bezos' fault or anyone elses fault if I fail to make the propper sacrifices.
You guys can blame jeff bezos. Im going to take responsibility for my situation.
if we all took an equal cut of besos' networth we would all get under 20$. whereas with that money concentrated it can be invested and used to create new goods, services and jobs which improve out quality of life as a species.
besides nobody is entitled to anyone elses money just because they want it.
You want to become rich, but if not it's nobody's fault but your own. This is what you should do instead. Play the lottery. It gives you a better chance. But not as good of a chance as being struck by lightning several different time.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Brian Jones]
#26486095 - 02/14/20 08:25 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Brian Jones said:
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BANANA.MAN said: I am not rich but want to become rich one dat. If I do not reach my goal I will have nobody to blame but myself. It's nobody else's responsibility to make sure I am successful.
It wont be jeff bezos' fault or anyone elses fault if I fail to make the propper sacrifices.
You guys can blame jeff bezos. Im going to take responsibility for my situation.
if we all took an equal cut of besos' networth we would all get under 20$. whereas with that money concentrated it can be invested and used to create new goods, services and jobs which improve out quality of life as a species.
besides nobody is entitled to anyone elses money just because they want it.
You want to become rich, but if not it's nobody's fault but your own. This is what you should do instead. Play the lottery. It gives you a better chance. But not as good of a chance as being struck by lightning several different time.
lol the lottery gives a better chance than working hard and being responsible? you are being ridiculous.
A disproportionate amount of poor lottery winners become poor again.
according to the brookings institute only 2% of people in the united states who do three basic things remain perminently poor. those things are graduate highschool, get a full time job and wait until you are atleast 20 and married to have children. 98% of people who do those basic things will not be poor.
The fact is personal choice plays a large role in our economic standing.
People dont just become successful based on luck. Sure there may be some aspect of chance. but luck alone wont make you rich and keep you that way. you need personal responsibility.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26486105 - 02/14/20 08:34 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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It is easier to be poor and blame than it is to become the richest of the rich.
But there is still gold here in the personal responsibility.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
#26486119 - 02/14/20 08:42 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Lend me a fiver Jeff
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26486187 - 02/14/20 09:47 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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its immoral to feel entitled to someone else's money
That’s why Bezos shouldn’t feel entitled to the billions of dollars that rightfully belong to the laborers.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26486192 - 02/14/20 09:49 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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its immoral to feel entitled to someone else's money
That’s why Bezos shouldn’t feel entitled to the billions of dollars that rightfully belong to the laborers.
if you obtain something by engaging in a voluntary transaction it is yours.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: BANANA.MAN]
#26486213 - 02/14/20 10:01 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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BANANA.MAN said:
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TheFakeSunRa said:
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its immoral to feel entitled to someone else's money
That’s why Bezos shouldn’t feel entitled to the billions of dollars that rightfully belong to the laborers.
if you obtain something by engaging in a voluntary transaction it is yours.
It’s not a voluntary transaction. People are forced to work under threat of homelessness, exposure, and starvation.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
#26486223 - 02/14/20 10:09 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said:
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BANANA.MAN said:
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TheFakeSunRa said:
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its immoral to feel entitled to someone else's money
That’s why Bezos shouldn’t feel entitled to the billions of dollars that rightfully belong to the laborers.
if you obtain something by engaging in a voluntary transaction it is yours.
It’s not a voluntary transaction. People are forced to work under threat of homelessness, exposure, and starvation.
That threat comes from nature. the person offering the job is bound by the same necessity. he is not imposing itnon other people to coerce them to work for him. thats just life dude. yeah you have to work to get ahead. thats the way its always been. thats how it was for our ancestors, long before we were even human. Quit being so dramatic.
produce something for yourself if you dont want to gain wealth through cooperation. dont expect people to produce things for you. go grow some food. and cut some lumber and slap it together to make a house.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: TheFakeSunRa] 1
#26486263 - 02/14/20 10:46 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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TheFakeSunRa said:
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BANANA.MAN said:
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TheFakeSunRa said:
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its immoral to feel entitled to someone else's money
That’s why Bezos shouldn’t feel entitled to the billions of dollars that rightfully belong to the laborers.
if you obtain something by engaging in a voluntary transaction it is yours.
It’s not a voluntary transaction. People are forced to work under threat of homelessness, exposure, and starvation.
Totally voluntary. But yes, you do have to work to eat and have shelter. Just like our ancestors dating back forever and ever. But you don't have to work for Bezos. That is voluntary.
Edit.... aw shit. Didn't mean to echo echo echo.
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: susurrador]
#26486273 - 02/14/20 10:55 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Great minds think alike
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Re: Jeff Bezos' estimated personal wealth, as of this morning, is about $129,500,000,000.00 [Re: BANANA.MAN] 1
#26486444 - 02/15/20 02:35 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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You don’t work you don’t eat but y’all still claim that’s not force... incredible. You guys could find a way to justify rape if the government said it was cool.
Everything in the earth is of the earth. The earth doesn’t charge. Nobody should have more just because the government says they do. Property is theft.
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