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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive]
    #26485939 - 02/14/20 06:52 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I love oats! You are likely overcooking your oats. Wire mesh metal strainers are key. You need to properly strain them so there is no excess moisture on the outside. Ive used most grains. They are no different or More bacteria prone than any other grain. It’s just being prepared improperly. And I never pc my oats more than an hour or an hour and 15 minutes. I don’t have any issues even injecting liquid inoculation into them.




I def dry them enough, i'll cook up 20 jars worth of oats at a time and have them all spread out and drying overnight on window screens.

All the teks say 2 hrs or more for oats.

Im gonna give rye berries a go.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: hamonz] * 1
    #26485960 - 02/14/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I think my point is that oats can be easy when you get used to them. It's like dialing in a tub, once you know what you are looking for, they are a breeze. But until you know, soaking drying times they can be more of a PITA than WBS because it has been used around here alot longer. Me personally, I like oats because your prepping one type of grain. Not several like WBS.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: hamonz]
    #26485968 - 02/14/20 07:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Oats are awesome, pack full of nutritional goodness. In fact I eat them every morning for breakfast and so do my fungi. I did use wbs but it's easier to process and clean oats and way way cheaper. 15$ 15kg bag compared to 40$. Wbs probably has more inoculation points and more surface area but I think it's a mute marginal difference. You could try soaking the oats for 12-24 hours to kill endospores but others here have shown that not necessary.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: amylase]
    #26485983 - 02/14/20 07:13 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I use old screen door mesh laid over pallets on the porch. Ill build some wood frames sooner or later. I pretty much bring em to a boil for a couple minutes or so and then strain. Been working great. Gotta be 100% on agar and you're good.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Failboat]
    #26486023 - 02/14/20 07:32 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

@hampnz. My tek  don’t. There are a ton of oat teks out there. I never cook oats or any grain longer than what I stated above. Does the grain turn to mush when your pc is done cooking?


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: antmanmax]
    #26486028 - 02/14/20 07:36 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I believe the concern is recognizing if oats are clean or not. Oats make it hard to tell if bacteria or contams are present thats what I've heard from some of TCs on why they don't like oats.




I don't understand this. Granted, I only have a few grows under my belt, but what does it matter how dirty it is if you're pressure cooking it?


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DE works(if completely dry) but I dont think its food grade. I try to use food grade methods as much as possible when it comes to growing edibles as well as actives. Remember this is food afrer all.




The FDA considers DE to be "generally safe" as long as it's less than 2% by weight of whatever you're using it in. I would be shocked if the amount of DE that ends up in the shrooms is more than like 0.01% (<1lb of DE for 50 lbs of oats, that's a tiny amount of DE per tub), so even if it weren't food grade (the only difference seems to be the amount of crystalline silica), it seems fine.



COLONIZED OATS. its hard to tell if colonized oats are clean or not. Unlike with other grains.

FDA also says that dead bugs and rat shit in your canned foods is acceptable. Those are more of guidelines businesses have to follow doesn't mean its not disgusting.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Smartattack] * 1
    #26486045 - 02/14/20 07:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Agreed. As far as bugs go.. just PC those bitches too.:shrug:

Having been working with rye lately I cannot wait to get back to oats. Oats are so easy to prep it's tarded.




iv posted this pic b4 but everytime someone talks about bugs in grains i just gtta show what i found after pcing some rye my lil beetle friend colonized and spawned just fine lol


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: jcm4620]
    #26486049 - 02/14/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I dont like oats, nothing but issues with it not worth the hastle for me personally. Love my wheat =)


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive]
    #26486065 - 02/14/20 08:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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@hampnz. My tek  don’t. There are a ton of oat twos out there. I never cook oats or any grain longer than what I stated above. Does the grain turn to mush when your pc is done cooking?




no grains look fine when they come out. Could honestly be my sterile work but ive run thru 150lbs of oats with the sameish results even though my agar work has been improving.

But theres always room for improvement on everything. Ill read your oat tek up @eat and try that out next time


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Loomy]
    #26486116 - 02/14/20 08:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I dont like oats, nothing but issues with it not worth the hastle for me personally. Love my wheat =)



Barley has been pretty good to me and it seems like the easiest grain there is to prep and "feed" grade comes out the bag almost as clean as food grade grains I've used in the past.

Did I see someone say that oats were cleaner than wbs? Ive ran atleast 30 different brands of wbs and even though I've found plenty of weird shit in them I've never in all my years of growing come across a single bag as dirty as my "cleaned" oats. I had to dust and vacuum the entire house after measuring out and bagging up 3 50lb bag of oats. Last time I fucked with those indoors. Idk if they are all like this but the brand I use is filthy. :shrug:


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: gizmo1] * 1
    #26486118 - 02/14/20 08:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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gizmo1 said:
I believe the concern is recognizing if oats are clean or not. Oats make it hard to tell if bacteria or contams are present thats what I've heard from some of TCs on why they don't like oats.




I don't understand this. Granted, I only have a few grows under my belt, but what does it matter how dirty it is if you're pressure cooking it?


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gizmo1 said:
DE works(if completely dry) but I dont think its food grade. I try to use food grade methods as much as possible when it comes to growing edibles as well as actives. Remember this is food afrer all.




The FDA considers DE to be "generally safe" as long as it's less than 2% by weight of whatever you're using it in. I would be shocked if the amount of DE that ends up in the shrooms is more than like 0.01% (<1lb of DE for 50 lbs of oats, that's a tiny amount of DE per tub), so even if it weren't food grade (the only difference seems to be the amount of crystalline silica), it seems fine.



COLONIZED OATS. its hard to tell if colonized oats are clean or not. Unlike with other grains.

FDA also says that dead bugs and rat shit in your canned foods is acceptable. Those are more of guidelines businesses have to follow doesn't mean its not disgusting.





I have a half open 50lb bag of rye berries with rat shit in them because I quit this hobbie a couple of years ago and just let everyting go to the way side.  Was thinking about picking out the rat shit, but hey... :shrug:


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26486127 - 02/14/20 08:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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gizmo1 said:
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antmanmax said:
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gizmo1 said:
I believe the concern is recognizing if oats are clean or not. Oats make it hard to tell if bacteria or contams are present thats what I've heard from some of TCs on why they don't like oats.




I don't understand this. Granted, I only have a few grows under my belt, but what does it matter how dirty it is if you're pressure cooking it?


Quote:

gizmo1 said:
DE works(if completely dry) but I dont think its food grade. I try to use food grade methods as much as possible when it comes to growing edibles as well as actives. Remember this is food afrer all.




The FDA considers DE to be "generally safe" as long as it's less than 2% by weight of whatever you're using it in. I would be shocked if the amount of DE that ends up in the shrooms is more than like 0.01% (<1lb of DE for 50 lbs of oats, that's a tiny amount of DE per tub), so even if it weren't food grade (the only difference seems to be the amount of crystalline silica), it seems fine.



COLONIZED OATS. its hard to tell if colonized oats are clean or not. Unlike with other grains.

FDA also says that dead bugs and rat shit in your canned foods is acceptable. Those are more of guidelines businesses have to follow doesn't mean its not disgusting.





I have a half open 50lb bag of rye berries with rat shit in them because I quit this hobbie a couple of years ago and just let everyting go to the way side.  Was thinking about picking out the rat shit, but hey... :shrug:



Lmao rye is pretty expensive. Might as well just PC the rat turds too FDA probably says its safe. Literally. Do what you do boo-boo.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26486158 - 02/14/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Oats are great. My rye jars weigh more than my oat jars. Most grains work well. It is good to remain adaptable.:heart:


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Nichrome]
    #26486289 - 02/14/20 11:09 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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It is good to remain adaptable.:heart:



Absolute truth. :heart:
Fear no grain.
Even with that being said though I've used alot of grain. Oats are superior to none. Try them all figure out which fits you best, for me it was food grade wheat. Then I lost my wheat plug, im currently running oats, wbs, barley and mixes of these grains plus chopped and straw(as spawn not sub). Wbs and barley being my current favorites


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive] * 1
    #26486347 - 02/15/20 12:01 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Ive never had any issues using oats. IMO they are the easiest grain to prep.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #26486364 - 02/15/20 12:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Ive never had any issues using oats. IMO they are the easiest grain to prep.



Have you tried barley? It hydrates super fast and dries quicker than oats. Best of all it can absorb excess moisture even when hydrated. Even burst grains will keep absorbing.  Idk why. I guess it does make it kinda hard to prep unless you know what look for but I'd suggest anyone that hasnt tried it does. If all else fails ferment it and make some beer. :shrug:


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: gizmo1]
    #26486388 - 02/15/20 01:14 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Loomy said:
I dont like oats, nothing but issues with it not worth the hastle for me personally. Love my wheat =)



Barley has been pretty good to me and it seems like the easiest grain there is to prep and "feed" grade comes out the bag almost as clean as food grade grains I've used in the past.

Did I see someone say that oats were cleaner than wbs? Ive ran atleast 30 different brands of wbs and even though I've found plenty of weird shit in them I've never in all my years of growing come across a single bag as dirty as my "cleaned" oats. I had to dust and vacuum the entire house after measuring out and bagging up 3 50lb bag of oats. Last time I fucked with those indoors. Idk if they are all like this but the brand I use is filthy. :shrug:




The Producer's Pride oats I use are really dusty when I measure them out of the bag. The other day I was noticing the plume of dust and wondered if it could wonk up any nearby tubs. Wondered the same about measuring out dry coir and the dust that comes from that before it's hydrated... anyone have 2cents on this?


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: susurrador]
    #26486409 - 02/15/20 01:34 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I think I might have powdered barley once, a long time ago, and did some PF Tek with ith. But I dont recall using it whole before. Ill give it a go though.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: wildernessjunkie]
    #26486422 - 02/15/20 01:51 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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gizmo1 said:
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Loomy said:
I dont like oats, nothing but issues with it not worth the hastle for me personally. Love my wheat =)



Barley has been pretty good to me and it seems like the easiest grain there is to prep and "feed" grade comes out the bag almost as clean as food grade grains I've used in the past.

Did I see someone say that oats were cleaner than wbs? Ive ran atleast 30 different brands of wbs and even though I've found plenty of weird shit in them I've never in all my years of growing come across a single bag as dirty as my "cleaned" oats. I had to dust and vacuum the entire house after measuring out and bagging up 3 50lb bag of oats. Last time I fucked with those indoors. Idk if they are all like this but the brand I use is filthy. :shrug:




The Producer's Pride oats I use are really dusty when I measure them out of the bag. The other day I was noticing the plume of dust and wondered if it could wonk up any nearby tubs. Wondered the same about measuring out dry coir and the dust that comes from that before it's hydrated... anyone have 2cents on this?



If your spawn is clean tubs will be good.

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I think I might have powdered barley once, a long time ago, and did some PF Tek with ith. But I dont recall using it whole before. Ill give it a go though.



If you can get it locally its definitely worth trying. I think a 50lb bag was $16


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: gizmo1] * 2
    #26486483 - 02/15/20 03:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I always PC my oats for 2 hours. Never had bacteria except when I threw a shitty plate in one
I starting using oats a year or two ago.game changer I hate cleaning wbs
And it’s hella less messy and a lot easier to dry in my opinion.
I do wanna try rye grains next time


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