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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive]
    #26977700 - 10/09/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive]
    #26977701 - 10/09/20 10:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'm down to 25 minutes from your original prescribed 45 and still getting bursted ones off these particular oats.

It sure as fuck leaves my pot and stove cleaner than Bods does though without my filthy unrinsed oat water splashin all over.
I'll stop my timer at 20 on these ones and if they're not done I'll still throw them on my door sized strainer and just up my LC to 10ml per jar.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26977706 - 10/09/20 10:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I was stuck in the hills without wifi when this got cereally rolling (i think). Got a link to the best thread on it? I'm curious.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26977739 - 10/09/20 10:44 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I’m going to do some oats soaked with no boil straight to the jar after being drained and fan dried and then see how it grows from there !!


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26977798 - 10/10/20 12:22 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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I was stuck in the hills without wifi when this got cereally rolling (i think). Got a link to the best thread on it? I'm curious.




I got the idea/process from Southwest mushrooms on YouTube, his process was the most simple I have ever seen and he grow thousands of pounds a month. It got taken down unfortunately for some reason, so it wasn't available for me to go back and reference when I was trying to remember his exact water ratios, but I remembered his process other than his ratio. So I took to the shroomery to find someones water to millet ratios for bags and adapted it to the process I had seen the Southwest mushrooms guy do. I found a couple different write-ups here. While not as simple (I skip a good amount of what he does) this was the closest thing I could find on the shroomery.

I will probably do a write up soon because I am in love with how white trash easy this shit is.

Decide what you want your final bag weight to be, calculate what 30% of that weight is and that is your moisture content for bags. Weigh your grain, and weigh your water so it's the exact same every time, put them in the bag and PC.

I don't soak, rinse, simmer, do that dry rinse step that guy I linked to does, or anything... Get your calculations right for moisture to grain ratios and PC them bitches.

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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Funky Monkey]
    #26978008 - 10/10/20 06:16 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I watched that same video a little while back. I wonder why it got taken down :shrug:

Dude has an interesting setup with the grow tents and whatnot. I can dig it

Do you let your millet hydrate in the bag for a bit after mixing or do you go straight to the pc and let it hydrate during sterilization?


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Dhearic]
    #26978030 - 10/10/20 06:52 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Oats are 12$ per 50lb bag. Next closest is wbs or wbf for 15$ for 40lbs. And i have no seed stuck between the toes. Some people hate oats. I think if your in horse country you get better quality oat brands more frequently. So far the 3 ive tried have been excellent.

My local feed store didnt even know what rye or wheat was when i asked lol

As far as speed for colonizing bulk and top layer, wbs is king with far more inoc. Points. Id rate wbs as my top grain. Prep is easy and fast, colonization on shake after g2g, bulk and top layer is the best. But i had to stop using it because i started having nightmares about grain stuck between my toes, in my socks, under the counter, in the cracks.... no more.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Dhearic]
    #26978311 - 10/10/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Do you let your millet hydrate in the bag for a bit after mixing or do you go straight to the pc and let it hydrate during sterilization?




I will generally let it soak in the bag while I prep other bags and whatnot then give it a good hand churn/mix inside the bag to distribute the water as best I can before PCing, and while my reptile brain likes the idea of having the grains soak up as much water as possible so there's no standing water at the bottom of the bag, I have thrown plenty in the PC that have most of the water at the bottom layers of grains and after they come out of the PC and get a shake/get nocced up etc I can tell no difference in the final product, so a true "no prep" is working just fine :rockon:

It's all about the perfectly dialed in water ratio, and weighing it out. This is so much more exact than all the other methods of trying to get that perfect level of hydration in my opinion because the entire moisture content of the bag was perfectly weighed every time not soaked in, simmered in, dried off, and fingers crossed that the batches stay consistent when all the variables have been considered. I am fully onboard with anything that cuts out steps/work. I love love love streamlining.

Love you guys, and this wonderful place that has allowed me to progress to the point of even having an opinion lol, long live the shroomery!


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Oats are 12$ per 50lb bag. Next closest is wbs or wbf for 15$ for 40lbs.

As far as speed for colonizing bulk and top layer, wbs is king with far more inoc. Points. Id rate wbs as my top grain. Prep is easy and fast, colonization on shake after g2g, bulk and top layer is the best.




I get 50# bags of pure white proso millet for $12.99

Millet is WBS's pretty sister that married into a rich family... So clean and fancy all of a sudden and she can't help but feel superior when she looks upon her dirtier less refined family members.

And like a self-hating racist half breed, millet is WBS's favorite thing about it's self. :lol: (those aforementioned noc points)

I started with WBS and won't turn back as long as this source for $12.99 50# bags of millet is around for me. I mean I'll always dip and dabble experimenting with trying new stuff but having done both I certainly prefer straight millet with my current prep practices.

#NoPrepMilletGang :hamsterdance:


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive]
    #26978357 - 10/10/20 11:08 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Edit : Woops double post


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive]
    #26979993 - 10/11/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Oats are 12$ per 50lb bag. Next closest is wbs or wbf for 15$ for 40lbs. And i have no seed stuck between the toes. Some people hate oats. I think if your in horse country you get better quality oat brands more frequently. So far the 3 ive tried have been excellent.

My local feed store didnt even know what rye or wheat was when i asked lol

As far as speed for colonizing bulk and top layer, wbs is king with far more inoc. Points. Id rate wbs as my top grain. Prep is easy and fast, colonization on shake after g2g, bulk and top layer is the best. But i had to stop using it because i started having nightmares about grain stuck between my toes, in my socks, under the counter, in the cracks.... no more.




Same situation here.  Oats are cheap and plentiful, but if you go into a feed store asking for rye berries they look at you like you're an alien.  I would prefer white millet if it were cost effective, but it's over 2x the cost to get white millet unless i want to order a pallet.  So you learn to adapt :wink:

For my jars, I've been having really good luck with a 15-20 minute hard boil then spread them out on a screen table for at least an hour with a small fan keeping the air moving, but not blowing directly on them.  I like the middles of the oats to just get a hair past the gummy stage but not be squishy soft.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: PBJ710]
    #26980062 - 10/11/20 01:56 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I definitely liked millet back in the day. Cant get it for that good of a price locally.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive]
    #26980079 - 10/11/20 02:07 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I have always used WBS. I can get it at the grocery store less than a mile from my house for cheap and of course every home improvement store has it. Oats? I have no idea where to get oats and I am not making the extra effort to drive out and get them when I have been having great success with WBS. I tried popcorn at one point but it costs way more, hydrating process is not as easy, and it is obviously inferior once you see colonization times.


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