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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive]
    #26960489 - 09/29/20 02:51 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

-5 minutes is sweet.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Nichrome]
    #26960660 - 09/29/20 04:24 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Not a big deal but the only issue I get sometimes is some clumping. Seems to only happen with my AA's running the same prepped grain as a stovetop Presto simultaneously. I wonder if the higher temp (20 psi) plays a role?


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26961269 - 09/30/20 12:05 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Anyone here who doesn't cook oats? Just rinse, soak, dry and PC?


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Bsdgaou]
    #26961317 - 09/30/20 01:09 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

How long are you soaking? I just tried a 24 hour soak and wasn't really happy with the result. They seemed to be just shy of hydrated.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: pureshrooming]
    #26961352 - 09/30/20 01:57 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Get an on demand water heater and pump 160 degree water in. Then try your over night soak.
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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26961440 - 09/30/20 04:28 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I am asking because right now I use rye and I just soak it. Now I can get oats for the same price, but I don't want cook them if it's not necesarily.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Bsdgaou]
    #26961509 - 09/30/20 06:38 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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Anyone here who doesn't cook oats? Just rinse, soak, dry and PC?




Same...I rinse, soak 24 hours, drain a few hours, load and cook.

Stole the idea from a commercial mushroom farmer with a youtube channel..Mossy Creek Mushrooms.

It is stupid simple.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: verum subsequentis]
    #26961753 - 09/30/20 10:33 AM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I'll give that a go. My standard is boil water, toss in oats for 30m, strain and PC. Works great but just doing a soak takes a small bit off my plate which I'm always down for.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: pureshrooming]
    #26977227 - 10/09/20 03:46 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I just got back after a week long business trip and came back to this. Would you say this is fully colonized? You can see that hot all of the oats are engulfed in mycelium. Is that normal?


6 other jars look more like this.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #26977556 - 10/09/20 07:58 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

They dont look like what I would call perfect but I'd spawn them. I bet the top one is going to be a mofo to break up.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26977582 - 10/09/20 08:17 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I think you're right. Gonna have to whack the hell out of it. They're all going in shoeboxes. Lost 1 jar to trich and another to yeast. The yeasty jar is throwing white spots everywhere and the myc hasn't grown very fast. Not even gonna waste the time on it.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #26977586 - 10/09/20 08:19 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

One of the main failures on oats is not draining properly. If you have issues, strain them til outside is dry. Ive been using them for years without issues. I bring the water to a boil which takes 15 mins, then put heat on medium, put timer on 15 mins. Strain. Go do something. Come back later, load em up.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive]
    #26977625 - 10/09/20 08:52 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

We're pretty similar eat. I hard boil the water then add the oats and continue to hard boil covered for 10 minutes. Probably similar results but yours may be a little more hydrated. I tried to cram 45 cups into my pot the other day but it was so stuffed after boiling I let it sit with no flame for an additional 5 minutes and they turned out perfect.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive]
    #26977649 - 10/09/20 09:15 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

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One of the main failures on oats is not draining properly. If you have issues, strain them til outside is dry. Ive been using them for years without issues. I bring the water to a boil which takes 15 mins, then put heat on medium, put timer on 15 mins. Strain. Go do something. Come back later, load em up.




I've been using your no soak tek but instead of draining for 10 minutes the first batch I did sat for a few hours. After PC there was a lot of condensation. After 2 days and a few shakes, the condensation was absorbed. The 2nd batch I did dried for about 10 hours and had less condensation. The oats absorbed it and jars were ready after 1 day.

Im not in a hurry with any of this so I'll wait as long as I need to however, both batches seem to have performed fine after wedges were dropped. I guarantee that the yeast and trich jar were due to improper sterile tek. I live in a place where trich is everywhere. The ground outside has a green hue to it and buildings and houses are covered in green mold. Even with being very slow and careful in the SAB I still get a shit ton of lost plates. Last pour I lost 16/20 plates to white mold. I'm not sure what preventative measures can be taken especially with my kids and dog constantly in and out of the house. Doesnt seem feasible. Maybe when winter comes around contam rates will drop. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Doctor Mario]
    #26977664 - 10/09/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I don't know how eat dries his oats but I dry mine thoroughly. No exterior wetness. If I'm running short on time I'll dump them all back in my stock pot covered half dry until the next day and they turn out great.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26977670 - 10/09/20 09:32 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I just left mine sitting out in strainers over night. So far so good. Im trying not to get too excited but I'm just about at the home stretch. Spent weeks just getting clean agar and when grain jars didn't contam it was a milestone for me. Now I just have to get field capacity right and make sure I don't fk tubs up somehow. So close but not out of the woods yet.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26977674 - 10/09/20 09:36 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Posted in the CGD thread about having troubles with oats now after a year of no troubles. My oats come from a bulk distribution place that gets oats from all sorts of different farmers. The oats are not being sold as either milling variety or feed, just as oats.

There is a difference between milling and feed oats. The oats I just got from the same place are bursting way sooner, not prepping as nicely and are fat and mushy. Might be something to think about for you other Oat lovers like myself that the differences in what is classed as milling vs feed might make for a better oat experience. Logic tells me that all oats can be feed but not all oats can be used for milling as milling requires mechanical hull separation and because it's going into human consumption I bet requirements to be sold to a mill specify it needs a certain % of key things like how farmers have to wait for protein %'s to rise in Wheat before they harvest.



The difference could be negligible but like I was saying in the other thread after ~600kg of oats using Bods tek I'm now having issues and yeah these are oats but they ain't what I'm used to using as oats.

Who knows which is better for mycology or if it even matters, perhaps it does I'd have to run a side by side from clone across a few monotubs but I have no way of knowing which oats I'm going to be buying when I get them.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: starbones]
    #26977685 - 10/09/20 09:48 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

I don't think quality matters that much I don't even skim floaters out of my boil anymore. While they're in my drying racks and I'm rolling them over I'll pick obvious big pieces of straw and other crap out. Fine particles fall through the screen. The end result is all about no burst grain, proper drying and sterilization IMO.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: Grimsweeper]
    #26977688 - 10/09/20 09:50 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

For me, using liquid inoculation means i dont have to overhydrate the grain. I prefer on the dryer side. Also lefty was using barley and it only took 12 mins prep. So i lowered my time by 5 minutes and it works great!

Ive recently been letting the grain strain longer as well. Ill leave it and come back an hour later then pc. Agree you want the grain dry on the outside. I also just cook whatever is in there, peas, corn...

Starbones i had a similar issue recently. Reducing my boil time by 5 minutes and properly straining solved that issue.


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Re: Are oats not the way to go? [Re: eatyualive]
    #26977698 - 10/09/20 10:03 PM (3 years, 3 months ago)

Im with you eat cereal grains are regional by cost. Oats are dirt cheap for me. Literally (anything) else is 5-10X the cost but I do love my current short prep with oats.


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