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Olmate7
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Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :)
#26484592 - 02/14/20 02:07 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hi All! I'm new to the forums and hunting as well, hence why I came to this great place for help Loving this forum and Thankyou guys for keeping a great community alive!
As I said before, This my first "successful" shroom find. been looking around for a long time and finally found something promising! So I need help identifying these as I am very new to the game.
So here's some insight into the location of my journey
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Habitat:
Found these little guys in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia on a Cow paddock just after about 3-4 days of rain. Was hot the day I found them though. Found in some tallish grass next to a cow/horse paddock growing diretly out of cow poo. I think it was in a slight ditch but nothing to deep. Ground was tiny bit damp from the rain but was a hot day. Soil was full of clay and a bit of dirt.
Gills: The gills are black but some of them in the picture are lighter colored which is a little suss. No rings on them, The gills seem to go right up through to the top, maybe not attached to stem by the looks.
Stem: thin, hollow stem
Cap: as determined in picture
Spore print color: Black, some lighter as seen in picture
Bruising: Black/a little blue and some are very blue.
Pictures: Apologies for uploading so many, my camera is terrible and wanted to make sure to get enough Info on the pictures 
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Re: Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :) [Re: Olmate7]
#26484643 - 02/14/20 03:33 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Look pretty damaged, but to me they look like Cyanscens. Theyre everywhere in QLD. Make sure they have blue bruising and if you can, get a spore sprint. Also, maybe wait for a TI to indentify before consuming.
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Re: Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :) [Re: FuckCancer]
#26484682 - 02/14/20 04:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the input! Yeah they did bruise blue to begin with, didn't notice blue around the bottom of the cap to begin with but as soon as I picked them the stems bruised quite well.
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Re: Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :) [Re: Olmate7]
#26485031 - 02/14/20 09:25 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Update:
'Friend' has ingested, am about t-4hours in and no 'real' effects have manifested. No visuals, but only a slight calming and minor tingling sensations occured at around 2hours. one of the big ones where ingested and a smaller, medium sized one (in comparison to the bigger ones, so about 1.6 shrooms)
My question is, if these are magic, Where not enough ingested? unfortunately I could not weigh them and I have no idea what they could have weighed each. they where about 40mm to 70mm long. There where some slight 'definitive' effects but we believe them to be placebo from the anxiousness of them kicking in. Was quite an underwhelming experience. More info would be hugely appreciated as I can't find a lot of information in my web searches and around the forums, unless I'm blind
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Re: Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :) [Re: Olmate7]
#26485790 - 02/14/20 05:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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They are Panaeolus cyanescens, I recommend you dry them thoroughly and weigh them out to dose. 1g dry weight and no more than 2g is plenty for me and many others. over 2g dry weight is uncomfortable for me.
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Re: Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :) [Re: Olmate7]
#26485913 - 02/14/20 06:38 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Olmate7 said: Update:
'Friend' has ingested, am about t-4hours in and no 'real' effects have manifested. No visuals, but only a slight calming and minor tingling sensations occured at around 2hours. one of the big ones where ingested and a smaller, medium sized one (in comparison to the bigger ones, so about 1.6 shrooms)
My question is, if these are magic, Where not enough ingested? unfortunately I could not weigh them and I have no idea what they could have weighed each. they where about 40mm to 70mm long. There where some slight 'definitive' effects but we believe them to be placebo from the anxiousness of them kicking in. Was quite an underwhelming experience. More info would be hugely appreciated as I can't find a lot of information in my web searches and around the forums, unless I'm blind
I recommend mixing in some cubensis if possible. It is about experimentation and personal exploration to trip, so you might want to start slowly. If you up your dose next you might feel something more, but you might not even need to either. Once you trip enough your body takes over and knows what to do with them. If you eat some fresh remember they are possibly more potent yet 10x the weight. I wish I was more sensitive but I’m almost just happy I’m not. Don’t just find shrooms let the shrooms find you. Peaceful trails!
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Re: Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :) [Re: Doc9151]
#26486092 - 02/14/20 08:22 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the reply guys! helps I later found out that freezing them kills Psilocybin which is what we did (for about an hour) as we believed it was the way to go to kill parasites/germs. I have a question though, why would it be worth drying them in comparison to eating raw? I thought it would be more efficient to eat raw as it contains more Psilocybin? Is it purely to decontaminate or is it just to taste better/store for later? I don't mind the taste of the raw meanie? I guess the answer would be to properly dose it, as all mushrooms contain different amounts compared to their weight, but wouldn't that just be the same if you dried and crushed them up? there would still be an unknown amount per gram.
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Re: Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :) [Re: Olmate7]
#26486110 - 02/14/20 08:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The bulk of the psilocybin probably survives the drying process, but the psilocin decomposes. Drying is just for long-term storage. For dosing fresh, the fresh weight is ~10x the dry weight, so 10 g fresh is like 1 g dry. Fresh can pack even more of a punch though, so be careful.
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Re: Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :) [Re: breeg89]
#26486197 - 02/14/20 09:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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in my opinion. fresh seem to be stronger because it's harder to dose accurately with fresh fruit. it's true that you will lose 90% of the weight to water loss, but you have to remember that they start losing weight when you pick them.
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Re: Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :) [Re: Olmate7]
#27054923 - 11/24/20 04:42 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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hi where in brisbane did you find these? im on the hunt
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Re: Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :) [Re: jay1208]
#27055001 - 11/24/20 07:17 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Last time I ate 10g fresh the effect felt more like .75g dry. Imo is easier to be consistent with dosage if they are cracker dry.
Also if you are worried about bugs etc for fresh ones I’ll sometimes saturate them in lemon juice (lemon tek) Not sure how effective it is at killing anything but it makes me believe it does.... if you have ever made ceviche it’s clear how effective these natural acids can be. I consume the juice and the fruit bodies.
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Re: Found Panaeolus cyanescens? Help please :) [Re: CHUCK.HNTR]
#27057892 - 11/25/20 10:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Personally I believe potency mostly varies to the fullest extend in fresh ones 20 is a definite level 5 In a level 4 on 15 this can feel just as intense because of high amounts of energy that is experienced by a level 4 compared to a numbing calm in level 5
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