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The L Word: Generation Q 2
#26484563 - 02/14/20 01:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Has anybody on here watched this? Thoughts?
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No I had to look this up and honestly I'm absolutely appalled. They're still making these gay shows just for the sake of being gay? Fuck these people this is what's ruining America. I mean what has the world come to it 2020. I'm absolutely livid these shows are being broadcast to children no less. This show is rooted in bigotry and is entirely cis-phobic. This is the problem when I was growing up being gay wasn't even a fucking thing. Kids would be like oh I'm gay people would go oh didn't know and the conversation would move on. Nobody gives a fuck about stupid ass gay people. Only fucking retard boomers give two rat shits if anyone is gay. Why cant you people just live your life its 2020 just drop it already. Generation Q how about generation go fuck yourselves asshole. Fuck gay rights or any of it. It shouldn't be called gay rights it should just be called rights you asshole nobody thinks your special at all except for you and the people that hate you. Dont you get it? We already did this shit decades ago when lesbians were hot. Now all of a sudden it's a thing again. No fuck you we already did this you scumbags we knos your exploiting peoples emotions for money. Stop trying to label everything and put people into stereotypical groups. It only further divides people and angers them and is a step backwards all in the name of making money. Its sickening.Atleast that's the way I feel about it.
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OP, please don’t think the Shroomery is full of ppl like this guy. We just get a lot of drunk/troll traffic at times.
Haven’t seen the show but I watched 1.5 episodes of Sex Education the other day and it was pretty watchable I know I’d love it in my teens though
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: feldman114] 3
#26485089 - 02/14/20 09:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Haven't seen it but the original was a pretty decent drama. Shane was pretty hot I thought.
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: feldman114] 1
#26485103 - 02/14/20 10:01 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bro I remember when they orginal "L word" was on. It followed a group of these privileged thin white Los Angeles lesbians and their vapid, salacious, and erratic lives. There was Bette, an imperious workaholic, and her long-suffering partner, Tina. There was Jenny, a vicious writer and pot-stirrer who discovered her sexuality after moving in with her boyfriend next door to Bette and Tina. There was Alice, a chirpy journalist, and her best friend, Dana, a repressed tennis player. And there was Shane, an irresistible, monosyllabic lothario, who inspired both ire and emulation. This entire charade tantamount to a cheap gay rip off of another ground breaking show for women at the time called sex and the city. The whole show was a stereotypical caricature written by bigots. Just because your to stupid to see what's going on doesnt mean these scumbags are morally bankrupting America in a scheme to make even more millions so they can get their 10th yacht.
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Just because your to stupid to see what's going on doesnt mean these scumbags are morally bankrupting America in a scheme to make even more millions so they can get their 10th yacht.
You’re right, it doesn’t.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Bro I remember when they orginal "L word" was on. It followed a group of these privileged thin white Los Angeles lesbians and their vapid, salacious, and erratic lives. There was Bette, an imperious workaholic, and her long-suffering partner, Tina. There was Jenny, a vicious writer and pot-stirrer who discovered her sexuality after moving in with her boyfriend next door to Bette and Tina. There was Alice, a chirpy journalist, and her best friend, Dana, a repressed tennis player. And there was Shane, an irresistible, monosyllabic lothario, who inspired both ire and emulation. This entire charade tantamount to a cheap gay rip off of another ground breaking show for women at the time called sex and the city. The whole show was a stereotypical caricature written by bigots. Just because your to stupid to see what's going on doesnt mean these scumbags are morally bankrupting America in a scheme to make even more millions so they can get their 10th yacht.
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/on-television/the-l-word-reboot-seeks-to-absolve-the-originals-sins
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There was Bette, an imperious workaholic, and her long-suffering partner, Tina. There was Jenny, a vicious writer and pot-stirrer who discovered her sexuality after moving in with her boyfriend next door to Bette and Tina. There was Alice, a chirpy journalist, and her best friend, Dana, a repressed tennis player. And there was Shane, an irresistible, monosyllabic lothario, who inspired both ire and emulation. The show’s pilot, directed by Rose Troche—who made the scrappy, influential lesbian film “Go Fish,” on a tiny budget, in 1994—is witty and startling. In one scene, Bette and Tina—following a couples-therapy session that deftly shows the cracks in their relationship—visit an artist friend in his studio to prepare for Tina’s
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Crazy_Horse] 3
#26485122 - 02/14/20 10:14 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hahaha I thought that was a bit TOO coherent
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: feldman114]
#26485128 - 02/14/20 10:18 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Bro I dont have time to watch the show to figure out who any those people are. All I no is its lit garbage trash tv that's morally bankrupting America.
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Its disgraceful. I dont appreciate it.
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I don't get why you seem to be so mad about it though. GF leave you for a woman or something like that?
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: psi]
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It pisses me off because they're just rehashing old garbage instead of coming out with new hot lesbian shows and allow new ideas to flourish. True artist have that type of respect to the creative process. Terrible.
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So you're fine with shows about lesbians as long as they aren't continuations of existing franchises like this? I'm confused where the moral bankrupting thing comes in.
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: psi]
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psi said: So you're fine with shows about lesbians as long as they aren't continuations of existing franchises like this? I'm confused where the moral bankrupting thing comes in.
No, no, no.
They’re not hot.
They GOTTA be hot.
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I'm fine with shows about lesbians but just not for the sake of them being lesbians but for the sake of it being a good drama or whatever it is. Why does it matter so much they're gay? I dont get it it's really upsetting that people are just ok with this. They just let them do it! Stuff like the L word is just mind numbing to me. I mean they didn't even make the characters real they made a stereotypic lesbian-exploitation show for money. That's what it was from the start. There was no genuine good intention to make a serious lesbian show you can tell by the name for fuck sakes. None of it was groundbreaking. None of it was real or even original. none of it really went there. none of it should be applauded for bravery or honoured with awards but yet here we are. Open your fucking eyes people. It's like making a black show starring black people acting in stereotypical ways and calling it the N word. I mean little kids watch this ffs people. You all should be ashamed
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Seems like you’re the only one who cares they’re gay
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: feldman114]
#26485222 - 02/14/20 10:58 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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No I actually care so little about them being gay I'm pointing out how ridiculous of a show they made based solely of people being gay. Try to read back maybe.
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But you haven't seen the show though I thought?
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#26485232 - 02/14/20 11:03 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mean it's not high art or anything, but neither are a bazillion other TV shows.
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: psi]
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I dont need to like I said u can tell from the title and teaser ads they pushed at the time. Back then they were shoving really gay stuff down everyone's throats and all it did was piss people off. It's a big reason why trump's in office honestly. These things need to be done with a little sense of tact, finesse and elegance. I dont why people dont get that.
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How is it shoved down everyone's throats? Just by the show existing? Nobody has to watch it.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: I'm fine with shows about lesbians but just not for the sake of them being lesbians but for the sake of it being a good drama or whatever it is. Why does it matter so much they're gay? I dont get it it's really upsetting that people are just ok with this. They just let them do it! Stuff like the L word is just mind numbing to me. I mean they didn't even make the characters real they made a stereotypic lesbian-exploitation show for money. That's what it was from the start. There was no genuine good intention to make a serious lesbian show you can tell by the name for fuck sakes. None of it was groundbreaking. None of it was real or even original. none of it really went there. none of it should be applauded for bravery or honoured with awards but yet here we are. Open your fucking eyes people. It's like making a black show starring black people acting in stereotypical ways and calling it the N word. I mean little kids watch this ffs people. You all should be ashamed 
I knew people who watched the original show on Showcase and it was like they were watching a sideshow.

I'm definitely not as mad about it but I get what you're saying. They have been trying to get us to be okay with gay this, gay that for what seems like forever. Not the worst thing ever in the grand scheme but it's not like we ever had shows that overtly were like "THE RACISTS" or "THE HETEROS." Friends is basically that but it had nothing to do with their sexuality. If gay people were so interesting then these stories would have more to them then what their sexualities revolve around. I played Last of Us. I can't imagine how annoying it would have been if Ellie had little "Oh look, I'm fucking gay!!" bits all throughout I'd think it was fucking stupid. Joel: "Holy shit I'm straight male!!!" But just tossing it in to the end of the DLC, it was a nice touch. It added depth to the character rather than virtue signalling to keep relevancy
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Maybe some actual lesbians enjoyed a show about a lesbian social scene? I gotta admit the T&A was a draw for me though.
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Well, that escalated quickly. You don't get it because you're not gay, and you have NOT suffered oppression, prejudice, or been the subject of ridicule and hatred and even death threats or even death due to just simply liking the same sex. I agree that it should just be called "rights", but the powers that be in charge are the ones subjugating and singling out "gay" people due to their religious beliefs, fear etc....
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Like I said when I was growing up being gay wasn't even a thing least not openly in my school. If anyone ever tried to make it a thing it was seen as homophobic which was considered bullying which was extremely disparaging and scorned except by the kids who were known bullies. That's why I dont get why its becoming a thing again. Like when I was really little we called everything gay and everyone was faggots then we learned that wasn't right and everyone stopped doing it. Now it's a thing again I dont get it
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: psi] 2
#26485608 - 02/14/20 02:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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psi said: I mean it's not high art or anything, but neither are a bazillion other TV shows.
For real man  It's not even close to reality (because its tv!).. but I did enjoy watching it rebooted after 10 years. Only a few of the original characters were in it in case anyone was wondering.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: Like I said when I was growing up being gay wasn't even a thing least not openly in my school. If anyone ever tried to make it a thing it was seen as homophobic which was considered bullying which was extremely disparaging and scorned except by the kids who were known bullies. That's why I dont get why its becoming a thing again. Like when I was really little we called everything gay and everyone was faggots then we learned that wasn't right and everyone stopped doing it. Now it's a thing again I dont get it 
I don't get what you're saying. Being gay is a thing, and they should have representation in the media too. A good portion of the pleasure we get from watching tv and movies is being able to relate and identify with the characters, and up until recently mainstream media has been extremely straight and extremely white. It's normal and okay to be gay, and it's normal and okay to write shows about gay people, for gay people. You don't have to like it, but ffs, let people have their shows.
And if you're concerned about people making money off it...well..welcome to society. Our emotions are constantly exploited for cash by corporations.
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ChiefM4ster is very opinioned on this. Also, u quoted an article as if u wrote it! Thats plagiarism!
ikisschicks420: Havent watched the show but the show reminds me of a movie called "But Im a Cheerleader". Ever seen it? Did u like it? I like, i thought it was pretty interesting and entertaining.
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I watch a lot of lesbian programming too
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tyrannicalrex said: Well, that escalated quickly. You don't get it because you're not gay, and you have NOT suffered oppression, prejudice, or been the subject of ridicule and hatred and even death threats or even death due to just simply liking the same sex. I agree that it should just be called "rights", but the powers that be in charge are the ones subjugating and singling out "gay" people due to their religious beliefs, fear etc....
White people are just as oppressed as anyone else. We've just done a good job of being on top of the pile. Tons of people are really racist against white people, there are entire social movements against the white man. Popular ones. The elite 1%ers are predominantly white and even white people hate them. Like, has no one ever been beaten to death for being white? Denied service or robbed? It's not recommended to travel to (x) as a white person? No one's been enslaved as a whitey or fuck all.. No, it just happens that straight white male gives perhaps the least of all fucks. How's this for an example: someone here made a thread about how much money it would take to suck a dick. I said none, I wouldn't do it . And I had people saying I'm HELLA gay for saying so! So for being straight white male, even the wokest folkest decide I'm either a bigot or a liar if I'm not on that gay! Nah, no oppression here Sonny. No one ever won saying your scars are worse than mine. There's nothing to not "get" it's just virtue signalling and preaching to the SJW snowflake in the political minorities. Everybody loves diversity until they have something to shove in your face
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: viraldrome] 1
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Im a Huge supporter of lesbian films. Give it up for Girlfriend Films, videos made for people like me.
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larry.fisherman said: ... I'm definitely not as mad about it but I get what you're saying. They have been trying to get us to be okay with gay this, gay that for what seems like forever. Not the worst thing ever in the grand scheme but it's not like we ever had shows that overtly were like "THE RACISTS" or "THE HETEROS." Friends is basically that but it had nothing to do with their sexuality. If gay people were so interesting then these stories would have more to them then what their sexualities revolve around. I played Last of Us. I can't imagine how annoying it would have been if Ellie had little "Oh look, I'm fucking gay!!" bits all throughout I'd think it was fucking stupid. Joel: "Holy shit I'm straight male!!!" But just tossing it in to the end of the DLC, it was a nice touch. It added depth to the character rather than virtue signalling to keep relevancy
the "problem" is the media doesn't know how to make decent gay characters they rely on stereotypes, and after years of focusing on negative stereotypes where LGBTQ2+ characters were villianous they simply opted to move to the polar opposite side and make positive stereotypes in place of actual character development
part of this is an issue of scripting -- typical scripting work relies on a premise that only important information is conveyed at any time and that all dialogue must be tied to furthering the narrative at that point, it gets kind of difficult to start having people who are clearly identified as a minority (in contrast to other visible minorities like skin colour) without finding some awkward way to pigeonhole that dialogue in repeatedly
there is also a side-issue that is more typical of trans characters in recent years where things like aesthetic design choices will be used to convey a character is trans but, then, because it is never explicitly stated, cis viewers insist it can't be the case but this is more frequent in anime and gaming in recent years
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Tantrika] 1
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Shameless (US) did an amazing job with their gay characters. They’re relatable regardless of your orientation. Gay Jesus was a crazy storyline.
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White people are just as oppressed as anyone else. We've just done a good job of being on top of the pile. Tons of people are really racist against white people, there are entire social movements against the white man. Popular ones. The elite 1%ers are predominantly white and even white people hate them. Like, has no one ever been beaten to death for being white? Denied service or robbed? It's not recommended to travel to (x) as a white person? No one's been enslaved as a whitey or fuck all.. No, it just happens that straight white male gives perhaps the least of all fucks. How's this for an example: someone here made a thread about how much money it would take to suck a dick. I said none, I wouldn't do it . And I had people saying I'm HELLA gay for saying so! So for being straight white male, even the wokest folkest decide I'm either a bigot or a liar if I'm not on that gay! Nah, no oppression here Sonny. No one ever won saying your scars are worse than mine. There's nothing to not "get" it's just virtue signalling and preaching to the SJW snowflake in the political minorities. Everybody loves diversity until they have something to shove in your face
minority problems:

majority problems:


but yeah, you and rex are both kind of right in this
you are acknowledging the reality that white individuals are identified as white and in consequence face issues with how they can navigate the social sphere
rex is acknowledging the reality of having lived and grown through gay individuals being identified as gay and in consequence facing issues with whether they can navigate the social sphere
there is oppression of white people all over the place, but as you said "the straight white male gives perhaps the least of all fucks" this is not because they are better at responding to oppression than others, but that the spheres they operate in are generally safer and less in need of fucks being given
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: feldman114] 1
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feldman114 said: Shameless (US) did an amazing job with their gay characters. They’re relatable regardless of your orientation. Gay Jesus was a crazy storyline.
Chasing Amy is one of my favourite films and manages to make the whole thing all about exploring sexual identity while somehow still being a "Jay and Silent Bob" flick at core
of course, there is room to discuss whether and how Kevin Smith is good at writing minority characters and sensitive subjects because he is also the comic author that wrote a meaningful and contributing rape story into the background story of one of my favourite Spider-Man superheroines
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Tantrika]
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Definitely white privilage is strong then theres male privilage then theres straight privilage.
Hopefully these old traditions will die off....i see it slowly happening.
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Tantrika]
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Maybe I flew off the handle a bit with this one. Maybe lesbians are getting repressed a ton by the media and L word is the best they've come out with so far. I love lesbians.
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What do you call a gay dinosaur?
A suckalottadick
A lesbian dinosaur?
A lickalottapuss.
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LogicaL Chaos said: ChiefM4ster is very opinioned on this. Also, u quoted an article as if u wrote it! Thats plagiarism!
ikisschicks420: Havent watched the show but the show reminds me of a movie called "But Im a Cheerleader". Ever seen it? Did u like it? I like, i thought it was pretty interesting and entertaining.
yes I've seen But Im a Cheerleader also, but it's been a long time. I found it entertaining, especially when there wasnt much out like that at the time. its a classic
wooooah this thread got way off topic lol.. but everyone on the internet tends to do that these days. 
so for the 2 people who actually watched the show.. what did you think about what they did as far as story lines about the past characters? Kit, Jenny, ect. or the people they didnt even mention..
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Just use the toilet for disabled people
I do that all the time. Love how much space you have in there, and usually no cue either
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Tripsurfer] 1
#26500726 - 02/23/20 11:59 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: Just use the toilet for disabled people
I do that all the time. Love how much space you have in there, and usually no cue either
When it is an individual room, it is great when it is a wider stall in each of the assigned gender rooms the issue remains the same as in the meme
"in fact" the first point of consideration in the flow chart after answering yes to transgender is whether there is a gender neutral (ie: individual disabilities toilet or "family" room) seperate from the dichotomy of the gendered rooms but "there rarely ever is" -- because in Canada and maybe moreso in the US the individual disability toilets are a luxury and an after thought and the normal approach is to make a double-wide stall in both bathrooms, that has the appropriate handicap bars so people with disabilities are being classified by their gender as a priority over whether they need special accomodations for their disability or not
so you're telling people to use a special toilet because they are different and also saying that you personally occupy said toilet space and increase the likelihood of there being a queue for someone who you advise pick it over others despite you not observing yourself to have the personal qualifiers that indicate said room "should" be the one you use
ps -- just poking fun but "queue" refers to people waiting in line while "cue" is either an instrument for playing pool  or a way to indicate something to someone
so, ironically, your mention of disability toilets having "no cue either" could actually refer to the fact that there is no cue on the toilets indicating which gender is allowed or not
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Tantrika] 2
#26500804 - 02/24/20 01:44 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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One time I accidentally went to the girls restroom at the mall. When I came out of the stall a girl looked me right in the face and said "gross".
I cant imagine that happening every time I use the bathroom. That's rough.
Also life is unfair as shit. I've seen 0 equality between boys n girls bathrooms. Girls bathrooms are WAY cleaner AND sometimes they have couches and shit wtf
guys I'm about to start drilling girls bathrooms closed until our bathrooms are set to the same standard. This is bullshit.
This is the area I want some goddamn equality in.
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: ichugwindex]
#26500806 - 02/24/20 01:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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ichugwindex said: ... Also life is unfair as shit. I've seen 0 equality between boys n girls bathrooms. Girls bathrooms are WAY cleaner AND sometimes they have couches and shit wtf ...
take a janitorial job and clean period blood and shit off the walls of stalls wondering how tf it happened
honestly, if I have to go in public walk right up to the urinal, nail polish, makeup, purse and all bit of piss on the floor on the bottoms of my shoes less gross than some of what shows up in the women's room
but will typically do 3-6 hour trips in public without using the bathroom at all, just hold it have had an abnormal capacity to hold it; in my youth made a day trip home from Calgary with my cousins and my aunt got legitimately enraged at my refusal to get out of the van at the last McDonalds on our 12 hour trip because she insisted it was going to result in me peeing my pants
my dose of E makes me pee much more frequently now but think that overwhelming anxiety puts a cap on it in public places
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Tantrika]
#26501255 - 02/24/20 10:47 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If I have to go bad enough, IDGAFF which bathroom I go into, especially if it's a locking one, I'll hit it.
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this is from The L Word: Generation Q, right?
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Tantrika]
#26501429 - 02/24/20 12:20 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes you are right its queue Sorry not a native speaker
Here in the Netherlands its very common to have non-gender disability toilets
But I get your point
Do women actually give you trouble for using their bathroom? Men dont give a fuck really, as long as you obey toilet etiquette
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CHeifM4sterDiezL might be waxing lyrical a bit with his descriptions but I agree with him in principle. The vast majority of the last three generations don't care if you're gay/bi/les/whatever. Almost all TV is trash though, it's not like polished turd has any exclusivity to that attribute. People want to identify though so shows like this give them something that sometimes they don't find elsewhere. It's a fucking lonely existence for many people now that social media has truly sunk it's teeth into the fabric of society.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: It's like making a black show starring black people acting in stereotypical ways and calling it the N word.

They can do one called "The F Word" as well and make it about triggered fat people.

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Tripsurfer said: Yes you are right its queue Sorry not a native speaker
Here in the Netherlands its very common to have non-gender disability toilets
But I get your point
Do women actually give you trouble for using their bathroom? Men dont give a fuck really, as long as you obey toilet etiquette
When I was in Johannesburg it took me about 5 seconds to get used to the fact that pretty much all the toilets in clubs are unisex. It was just like "oh really? okay".
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Northerner]
#26501573 - 02/24/20 01:24 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Northerner said: CHeifM4sterDiezL might be waxing lyrical a bit with his descriptions but I agree with him in principle. The vast majority of the last three generations don't care if you're gay/bi/les/whatever. Almost all TV is trash though, it's not like polished turd has any exclusivity to that attribute. People want to identify though so shows like this give them something that sometimes they don't find elsewhere. It's a fucking lonely existence for many people now that social media has truly sunk it's teeth into the fabric of society.
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CHeifM4sterDiezL said: It's like making a black show starring black people acting in stereotypical ways and calling it the N word.

They can do one called "The F Word" as well and make it about triggered fat people.

I wish they would do/make that N word show! The F word one, not so good of an idea, but let it be gay and let me pick the bear/chub men to be in it, and It will be fabulous!
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Northerner]
#26501677 - 02/24/20 02:34 PM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Tripsurfer]
#26502510 - 02/25/20 01:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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Tripsurfer said: Yes you are right its queue Sorry not a native speaker
Here in the Netherlands its very common to have non-gender disability toilets
But I get your point
Do women actually give you trouble for using their bathroom? Men dont give a fuck really, as long as you obey toilet etiquette
No worries, it was just kind of cute to me am pretty sure that "queue" is itself a loan-word from French and that one of the few things someone tried to teach me in Québec was "tu as une beau queue" was a way to tell a chick she has a nice ass
Am not the ideal one to ask about women giving me trouble, have only used one public bathroom in the past year, and had a wing woman with me but, on my side of things, the potential disapproval of some women does not bother me so much as the prospect of some angry father deciding me to be a threat to his daughter because of my need to poop
smaller trans women find the male bathroom feels threatening, especially in club settings because as much as the majority of men are safe to be around there is always threat of the actual sexual predator being the encounter, and as terrifying as rape is to women already trans women typically have a more acute awareness that the abuser may kill them as soon as he actually gets their pants off
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Tantrika] 1
#26543872 - 03/19/20 03:48 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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larry.fisherman said: ... I'm definitely not as mad about it but I get what you're saying. They have been trying to get us to be okay with gay this, gay that for what seems like forever. Not the worst thing ever in the grand scheme but it's not like we ever had shows that overtly were like "THE RACISTS" or "THE HETEROS." Friends is basically that but it had nothing to do with their sexuality. If gay people were so interesting then these stories would have more to them then what their sexualities revolve around. I played Last of Us. I can't imagine how annoying it would have been if Ellie had little "Oh look, I'm fucking gay!!" bits all throughout I'd think it was fucking stupid. Joel: "Holy shit I'm straight male!!!" But just tossing it in to the end of the DLC, it was a nice touch. It added depth to the character rather than virtue signalling to keep relevancy
the "problem" is the media doesn't know how to make decent gay characters they rely on stereotypes, and after years of focusing on negative stereotypes where LGBTQ2+ characters were villianous they simply opted to move to the polar opposite side and make positive stereotypes in place of actual character development
part of this is an issue of scripting -- typical scripting work relies on a premise that only important information is conveyed at any time and that all dialogue must be tied to furthering the narrative at that point, it gets kind of difficult to start having people who are clearly identified as a minority (in contrast to other visible minorities like skin colour) without finding some awkward way to pigeonhole that dialogue in repeatedly
there is also a side-issue that is more typical of trans characters in recent years where things like aesthetic design choices will be used to convey a character is trans but, then, because it is never explicitly stated, cis viewers insist it can't be the case but this is more frequent in anime and gaming in recent years
Actress from The L Word: Generation Q talking about how desirable it is to see trans characters that just happen to be trans and not have their scripted story being about transitioning and how actors portraying trans women impact perceptions of what it means to be transgender:
compared to Marvel's totally ridiculous and stereotypey new trans super hero:

safespace's powers get triggered by snowflake being in danger
While not directly trans related, really liked Marvel's conceptual handling of Spider-Gwen Gwen Stacy was such an important character in the formative years of the Spider-Man story that having an inversion of the roles between her and Peter Parker made for a really cool reboot without it "just" feeling like "here's Spider-Man for girls!" like earlier character attempts at Spider-Woman somewhat did
but not clear how they can have some writing/production teams on hand that seem to be really tuned in and creative and others that are so completely tone deaf and inane with their content and my concern is the shit handling of this character is going to put them off to potentially having characters that are trans at all, just not with the narrow design focus
want to support Marvel, they had a lot of powerful characters through my childhood and early teens
 Rogue 
but man, between this and the Gwenpool cash-in, they get so fucking frustrating
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Tantrika]
#26543875 - 03/19/20 03:53 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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"Snowflake and Safespace". Cant believe Marvel made those characters up. The upmost of silly.
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LogicaL Chaos said: "Snowflake and Safespace". Cant believe Marvel made those characters up. The upmost of silly.
If you were to ask members of the trans community what their preferred super power is most would reply shape shifting hopefully need not explain why 
but you need a good writer to take a power ascribed to a pretty infamous villain and have it be used by a hero, without going through a multi-story arc like X-Men used to do any time they needed to pull Mystique (and or Magneto) onto the good guys side for the greater good

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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: Tantrika]
#26543941 - 03/19/20 05:49 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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If the trans community had the ability to shapeshift, that would be revolutionary for them! They could be the gender they always wanted to be and change up their appearance whenever they wanted. Takes "gender fluid" to a whole new level!
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Re: The L Word: Generation Q [Re: psi]
#26543942 - 03/19/20 05:51 AM (3 years, 10 months ago) |
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psi said: So you're fine with shows about lesbians as long as they aren't continuations of existing franchises like this? I'm confused where the moral bankrupting thing comes in.
From the late 90's.
https://www.channel4.com/programmes/queer-as-folk/on-demand/26061-001
I liked this series. Despite the supposed age of one character I don't see the "moral bankrupting", just a depiction of reality. 
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