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When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life?
#26483470 - 02/13/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? That is my question and it is a serious question. If we share the planet with over 10 billion people and cant resonate with one person or a single person what really is the point on being on this earth anymore. Im not talking about suicide but the psychological response in why a person is alive on this planet with so much beings if nobody likes you. Suicide is bad and im not talking about that but what is the psychological purpose on being on this planet if you are not social. Maybe anti social people are waiting to spread their wings and fly and become social butterflies thus establishing a purpose on this planet. But i guess no matter what you are everybody can call this place home. And that is nice. What are thoughts for if they cant be explained expressed so you recite it to yourself and noone hears. That sounds like punishment tbh or maybe human beings love to talk to themselves in their mind haha idk man. Life is intereeting in so many ways and there is so many pieces to the puzzle that is all i have to say really.
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Re: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? [Re: Connection] 1
#26483530 - 02/13/20 11:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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well that brings out many points that really are important but the crux to all of them is that asking "what something is for?" reduces things, and people, to tools, which are things of purpose, while living creatures are things of life and experiencing, not of purpose.
because we are capable of abstract (associative) thought, we can assign purpose to anything, and make it of use to life and experience.
a great deal of what happens is totally random, neither part of someone's assigned purpose, nor intrinsically meaningful, unless we make it meaningful by recognizing patterns in it that we have feelings about, or history with.
the long and the short is, you need not worry about why things are the way they are but by all means do keep finding out what is happening and how it relates to things in and around you.
better questions are "what is that good for?" or "how might I use that?"
good luck with your journey, and do not strive to be a tool except where getting a job comes in and you have to appeal to managers who necessarily objectify people to make their schedules work. you can be any tool you want when it comes to that (just a bit of practice).
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Re: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? [Re: Connection]
#26483537 - 02/13/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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In a state of flux the constant is change, so a definition belongs in a moment. OK a moment can be stretched out and we can be easily bored, so the definition appears all-encompassing without change, but that's deceptive.
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Connection said: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? That is my question and it is a serious question. If we share the planet with over 10 billion people and cant resonate with one person or a single person what really is the point on being on this earth anymore. Im not talking about suicide but the psychological response in why a person is alive on this planet with so much beings if nobody likes you. Suicide is bad and im not talking about that but what is the psychological purpose on being on this planet if you are not social. Maybe anti social people are waiting to spread their wings and fly and become social butterflies thus establishing a purpose on this planet. But i guess no matter what you are everybody can call this place home. And that is nice. What are thoughts for if they cant be explained expressed so you recite it to yourself and noone hears. That sounds like punishment tbh or maybe human beings love to talk to themselves in their mind haha idk man. Life is intereeting in so many ways and there is so many pieces to the puzzle that is all i have to say really.
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Re: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? [Re: Connection]
#26483538 - 02/13/20 11:30 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life?
How would you ever evaluate how you resonate with others? You are not qualified to do so.
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Re: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? [Re: Connection] 1
#26483591 - 02/13/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Connection said:Suicide is bad and im not talking about that but what is the psychological purpose on being on this planet if you are not social.
How do you know if suicide is bad? Is that a fact or an opinion? Also, how do you know if you aren't subconsciously talking about suicide, and consciously or subconsciously calling it 'psychological purpose' instead?
As for the purpose on being on this planet if you aren't social. There may not be a purpose at all. Then again, there may be, and if there is a purpose, I would imagine it would differ from person to person. Although, if there is a purpose, then there must be one ultimate purpose that we all would be a part of, and it wouldn't differ from person to person, since it would be our purpose in life. So we would share the same purpose. And we would approach it in our own way.
What is the purpose of an ant? What is the purpose of a butterfly?
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Re: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? [Re: I AM SWIM]
#26483633 - 02/13/20 12:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Suicide, homicide, mass-killings, etc. all make reasonable logical sense to the person making the choices.
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Re: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? [Re: RJ Tubs 202] 1
#26483699 - 02/13/20 01:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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dealing death is a kind of final solution for people who think only in terms of tools.
my feeling is that it involves a narrowing of perspective.
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Re: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? [Re: Connection]
#26483893 - 02/13/20 03:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Connection said: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life?
You mistake the nature of life and this universe if you feel it is that simple or the point. What is consistent is progress and development. In order for that to occur there is harmony, chaos, friction... Sometimes people don't resonate. This is a good thing. The majority of the world is an amplifier not a signal. Reverberation not source. So, what is this concept of 'people resonation'. The Sun resonates. The earth is a sink. There are few leaders and many followers. A true leader is their source and sink. Few are this. So, what does it mean to 'resonate' with the majority or the flock? Sometimes they are out of tune or astray. Why should one sync'd with a more true source.. progression resonate with the masses? Of the billions of people on earth then, who have you truly met of this quantity to say who resonates with who? This is a null conjecture.
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Connection said: That is my question and it is a serious question.
It is a null conjecture. 'Resonate with people' quantitatively means the whole world. Of this quantity, at max, there is a theoretical 7-9 person resonator field. The numbers would suggest that ultimately, it is highly likely that everyone on earth if permeated would resonate with a 7-9 person coupling. Thus why your conjecture is fall/wrong.
As to the idea that this is the point of life, this is the only portion I found debatable. On pure numbers, everyone likely has a coupling of people they resonate with. The only question now is if this is the point of life which I have framed it is indeed not as there are things far and beyond socialization that are CLEAR guiding principals and trends.
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Connection said: If we share the planet with over 10 billion people and cant resonate with one person or a single person what really is the point on being on this earth anymore.
False conjecture.
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Connection said: Im not talking about suicide but the psychological response in why a person is alive on this planet with so much beings if nobody likes you.
False conjecture. The first step btw is liking and loving yourself. Ultimately that's all you need. Everything else is a surplus. If you don't like or love yourself nor have figured out how to arrive at that, you have your own internal problem which is what you're projecting onto the world.
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Connection said: Suicide is bad and im not talking about that but what is the psychological purpose on being on this planet if you are not social.
Now you're narrowing it to psychology? Psychologically, you should love/like yourself first and foremost. If you don't, you're likely psychologically projecting your deficiency on the world. You don't have to be social to like/love yourself. You are going to have a hard time being social if you don't like/love yourself.
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Connection said: Maybe anti social people are waiting to spread their wings and fly and become social butterflies thus establishing a purpose on this planet.
To be frank, the term (anti-social) doesn't exist in any absolute terms. It's a relative and conflated measure that has no orientation. You're socializing right now online as are tons of people who might be termed 'anti-social'. All humans are quite social. All humans have a preference of not socializing with people they don't enjoy. For some people, especially more intelligent and intentioned, that scope is larger than others. Why? Well because they see the nature/intent and quality more clearly and choose to avoid low quality versions. What's their purpose? Usually its progressing/advancing and furthering society which requires one to be a bit more removed from the day to day idiocy that is considered to be the bulk of most people's socialization
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Connection said: But i guess no matter what you are everybody can call this place home. And that is nice.
No place is my home and in that I am comfortable with the wild.
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Connection said: What are thoughts for if they cant be explained expressed so you recite it to yourself and noone hears. That sounds like punishment tbh or maybe human beings love to talk to themselves in their mind haha idk man. Life is interesting in so many ways and there is so many pieces to the puzzle that is all i have to say really.
Some people busy themselves trying to put puzzle pieces together to frame and construct further along things. For such people, it is required of them to be somewhat resigned from the world and people so as to not muddy the waters. Such people are more tuned into the frequency of source that exists beyond aggregates of people in a social context. That source brings far more joy/fulfillment than trying to get others to understand it/them. Over the years I have matured past frustration with this reality and have just come to accept that the average and majority of people I come across won't understand me. Socialization drains me most time in such contexts and in order to be happy/productive, I have to do it less. I find much more fulfillment in my work more closely tied to 'source' which exists outside most human capture/conception. I don't resonate with most people. I am too ok with this as I resonate with something far greater and manifest great things.
Everything may seem like a confusing mess and some people enjoy this conceptual framing of life. To others, it is quite ordered/structured and is filled with purpose everywhere. For such people, they don't need to constantly bounce their shower thoughts around for social affirmation. They get far more from 'source'... and socialization many times hinders/reduces it not enhances or contributes which is why they do less of it.
One thinks to highly of themselves and humans when they think differently. We as a species are a spec of dust in the cosmos.
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Re: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? [Re: r00tcmplx] 1
#26484552 - 02/14/20 01:10 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Narrowing of perspective for sure when we’re talking about people who jump to taking life from self or others. Individuals who perform such actions are existing in a very troubled space. Human beings, under sufficient stress, experience a profound narrowing of perspective and, under enough pressure, become destructive which, on its own, seems to be an indicator that something is wrong. A symptom. The organism is giving a message that something is broken socially, or in the person for whatever reason - mental health, chronic, ongoing antagonism/poor treatment from others, etc. This signal is often cause for confusion, misunderstanding and results in agro from others.
Alienation and isolation are toxic for human beings. Nonetheless, rejection of those different is the norm for neurotypical-type individuals with limited experience of things unknown to them. Arguably, things do get better for the different ones as they age and adapt, and the ability to “go meta” and observe qualities of social interaction others are completely lost in is invaluable.
There are always people of like mind, they just get harder to find the more arcane your interests are or the more removed you become from cultural norms. Life always has a point as long as the body breaths. Nihilism and hatred / contempt for humanity is a trap arguably for the gifted among us and such a sad, sad state of things. It neglects the importance of historical context and lineage.
Intellect and/or giftedness in general does not make one any better than the rest of mankind. It certainly isn’t virtue. This arrogance is a trap. We’re all on this ride together. Find ppl you gravitate towards, don’t resent people who are plugged into the cultural dream.
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Re: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? [Re: Connection]
#26485255 - 02/14/20 11:19 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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If we share the planet with over 10 billion people and cant resonate with one person or a single person what really is the point on being on this earth anymore.
Resonance is our responsibility - no one else's.
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Re: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? [Re: CountHTML]
#26485511 - 02/14/20 01:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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CountHTML said: Narrowing of perspective for sure when we’re talking about people who jump to taking life from self or others. Individuals who perform such actions are existing in a very troubled space.
Of my lengthy and detailed post that spoke of something transcendent and was devoid of this topic, you choose to reply and lead with it : the worst case bottom of the barrel outcome reflective of a person not loving/liking themselves... Quite interesting.
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CountHTML said: Human beings, under sufficient stress, experience a profound narrowing of perspective and, under enough pressure, become destructive which, on its own, seems to be an indicator that something is wrong. A symptom.
Stress can be induced in situations with high socialization. There are tons of cause/effects relationships that vary from person to person which is seemingly beyond grasp here. No manner of pigeon holing can be done to speak on such a broadly scoped field of relationship to prove a narrow point here. For any scenario you can concoct that you loosely string to anti-social behavior, I can provide a counter that is directly tied to social behavior especially concerning stress and a person retreating inward. Still have no clue what point you're trying to make as there is no absolution here as it is all relative, relational, and varied from person to person which is why I avoid playing psychologist beyond broadly scoped commentary.
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CountHTML said: The organism is giving a message that something is broken socially, or in the person for whatever reason - mental health, chronic, ongoing antagonism/poor treatment from others, etc. This signal is often cause for confusion, misunderstanding and results in agro from others.
ok... I mentioned such a scenario in passing and was maybe 1% of my post. Care to comment on the much more profound, positive, and transcendent commentary I aired?
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CountHTML said: Alienation and isolation are toxic for human beings. Nonetheless, rejection of those different is the norm for neurotypical-type individuals with limited experience of things unknown to them. Arguably, things do get better for the different ones as they age and adapt, and the ability to “go meta” and observe qualities of social interaction others are completely lost in is invaluable.
A lot of introverts 'go meta'. A lot of introverts are drained and stressed by low quality mainstream socialization. A lot of introverts are happier in smaller social groupings among quality like minded people. A lot are happy in isolation in which they can focus on their inner thoughts and manifest something creative with them. Your diagnosis as such is patently wrong.
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CountHTML said: There are always people of like mind, they just get harder to find the more arcane your interests are or the more removed you become from cultural norms. Life always has a point as long as the body breaths. Nihilism and hatred / contempt for humanity is a trap arguably for the gifted among us and such a sad, sad state of things. It neglects the importance of historical context and lineage.
Not sure why there is a focus on such a lowly and negative scoping... Not something I even cared to mention as I quickly highlighted such people have personal problems much deeper than surface level or communal psychological analysis.
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CountHTML said: Intellect and/or giftedness in general does not make one any better than the rest of mankind. It certainly isn’t virtue. This arrogance is a trap. We’re all on this ride together. Find ppl you gravitate towards, don’t resent people who are plugged into the cultural dream.
Is this some kind of sermon? There frankly is no understanding of universal value or measure enough to say who is this and that. I don't recall saying anything as such in my commentary. Yet, you're consistently bashing on a quite happy segment of the population? Saying that their lifestyle leads to bad things? Even though this isn't the truth and speaks more to a fundamental misunderstanding? Why do you think that is?
Thanks for your thoughts. They related little to my much more positive commentary but thanks anyway.
A claim of someone's arrogance, in my experience, is often an inverse projection of one's own inferiority complex. As I maintain we are all less than dirt, there is no such thing as arrogance in my book. Not sure why this is a standout idea to some people but I generally have found it expressed in relation to a sense of inferiority. If someone reflects positive on their attributes and transcendent perspective, that shouldn't spark a claim of 'arrogance'. If you center on positive attributes and transcendence in your own person, it would instead spark relational and positive commentary.
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Re: When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? [Re: Connection]
#26487681 - 02/15/20 10:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Connection said: ...When you dont resonate with people what is the point of life? That is my question and it is a serious question. If we share the planet with over 10 billion people and cant resonate with one person or a single person what really is the point on being on this earth anymore. ...
You seem to confuse the desire for companionship, with what some people think is a worthwhile question: "What is the meaning of life."
If you want friends,be specific and take measures to improve social skills, or do some therapy, or take a class; there are many such ideas.
Also worth considering that many dumb, cruel, & superficial people have friends, So just having friends doesn't mean much. Also worth considering that Greta Thunberg didn't set out to have friends & now has many. Also worth considering that Greta Thunberg didn't set out to solve a philosophical question, but just to deal with what seemed most important.
To feel there is a meaning to life,( while it sounds philosophical & profound or spiritual), but that you are missing it, is actually just another feeling. Any answer that doesn't come from within is just another belief copied.
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