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OfflineTokeItUp12
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How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms?
    #26482592 - 02/12/20 07:26 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Hey all,

I'm looking to trip soon and the focus of my trip is to close my eyes and look inward. I plan to take an eighth of golden teachers (either in tea or capsules not sure yet) and use some external resources to dive deep into my imagination. I will likely be using an eye mask for extra dark, headphones, and guided meditation with ambient music. Does anyone have any tips on enhancing this type of experience? Maybe a higher dose or dosage method?

For anyone interested, the reason I'm interested in this type of introspective trip has to do with one of my early cannabis experiences and one of my first shroom experiences.

The cannabis experience was when I was 15 and this was the first time I smoked by by myself. I just remember putting in headphones, laying in my dark room and experience music for the first time on cannabis. This was a profound experience I still cant describe and is one that LSD or Psilocybin still have not touched - I think I need to take more.

Almost 10 years later and I have a shroom experience that gets eerily close to this early cannabis experience. I took 2.4g of G.T's and used an eye mask and headphones to listen to ambient music. The CEV were so beautiful and indescribable. But still I think my early cannabis experience was more profound - possibly because of how naive my young brain was to mind altering substances.

Anyways, I'm hoping that if I take 3.5g and have a similar approach, I can have a profound internal experience with potential for beautiful CEV or out of body experience.

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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: TokeItUp12] * 1
    #26482600 - 02/12/20 07:31 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I think you got the right idea :cool: :thumbup:


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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26482717 - 02/12/20 08:26 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I may draw some criticism with this response but, for me, to get awesome visuals and an out of body experience I would recommend the “heroic dose”(5 grams). That’s if you do the capsule thing. 3.5 grams in tea would do the job. I find that the tea is more intense but doesn’t last long as consuming them whole.


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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: Antigov]
    #26482862 - 02/12/20 10:05 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I think I'll just stick with capsules from here out. I've found that tea makes me more nauseous than swallowing capsules. And while the trip is more intense with tea, the speed of the comeup really throws me off and the overall trip is shorter.

And I do want you to work my way up to 5g one day but I think I'll start with 3.5g because I do have a decent supply and dont want to ruin the experience by diving in too deep too fast

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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26483120 - 02/13/20 05:05 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Do you put things in your tea to help nausea? 30 mins prior magnesium citrate 500mg, then with tea lemon extract, ginger, and honey, almost 0 nausua.


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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: HappyHigh] * 1
    #26483146 - 02/13/20 05:50 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Gotta let go.

Low to mid doses can get me there on occasion, but it requires a lot of intentions going in, and many times on an eighth, my ego hangs on a bit too much and I start kicking myself for not taking more and forcing myself to settle down and pay attention. Peaking on an eighth feels a little lackluster after a few heroic doses, while on 5+ grams, I don't have to try or look for CEVs, they're just there and in my face, making me slackjawed in awe.

Or is that all the yawning?


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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: HamHead]
    #26483163 - 02/13/20 06:19 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

3.5 is still a tease. 4.5g or so is when things really start to unfold. But, over the weekend I ate an 8the to test out my new batch. It was a great time.. just laid around on my dark room with my headphones on and let the music take over me.

Butttt, like said in the post above, you do have to 'focus' more.. as you're not gripped by the balls.. and I too always do end up kicking myself in the ass for not taking more - but I wasn't in the right setting to be taking 4.5g+ so I had to suffice for something I knew I could hold my composure.

If I were you. I'd so 4g amd put your headphones in, mask.. and just let the experience take you over. 4g really seems to be a heavy hitter. .5/1g makes a huge difference in trips. And I have a feeling, you wouldn't regret a 4g trip whatsoever.

Some nice ambient relaxing music.. and let the mushrooms perform the show they love to perform. Its quite amazing.


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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: HappyHigh]
    #26483192 - 02/13/20 07:09 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Do you put things in your tea to help nausea? 30 mins prior magnesium citrate 500mg, then with tea lemon extract, ginger, and honey, almost 0 nausua.




Strong peppermint tea(2 bags) with a couple of drops of peppermint oil on the tongue


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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: Antigov]
    #26483292 - 02/13/20 08:50 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I do not recommend taking capsules for CEVs just eat the shrooms raw and you will have 8 Hours CEVS to enjoy and work on. The capsules will only last about 3-4 hours and will come on really intense it will be more emotional than CEVS from my experience and it will hit you much harder Much faster so i dont recommend it. Man you guys got to take Heroic doses for CEVs? I get CEV’s with 2.5 for 8 hours. Everytime. Not really necessary to do a high dose for CEVs they can be more distracting than CEVs or anything but thats my experience. An eighth with capsules man the comeup for me would be way to strong i noticed with CEVs a slow come up lasts longer. But thats my experience do what you will. I definately would take 5g if you want an out of body experience just take the whole shrooms and the trip will last longer without sudden rushes of intense energy and short durations. Thats my advice what is wrong with taking the mushies as they are the CEVs typically tend to come around after the 2 hour mark after all the psychological drama of the come up. When i used to Lemon TEKs the trip would last typically 2-4 hours and i’d crash out and goto sleep. I usually would take it at night so I wouldnt cause an effect.


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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: Connection]
    #26483327 - 02/13/20 09:13 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Connection said:
I do not recommend taking capsules for CEVs just eat the shrooms raw and you will have 8 Hours CEVS to enjoy and work on.




I wish I had whole fruit because they're beautiful but I got them as a gift from a friend and he only microdoses. So I can see why they were encapsulated. Next time I see him I'll ask if he has any extra whole fruit to spare. I have noticed that the comeup is quick with capsules but not quite as fast or strong as tea, lemon juice or Oj in my experience

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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26483336 - 02/13/20 09:19 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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If I were you. I'd go 4g and put your headphones in, mask.. and just let the experience take you over. 4g really seems to be a heavy hitter. .5/1g makes a huge difference in trips. And I have a feeling, you wouldn't regret a 4g trip whatsoever.

Some nice ambient relaxing music.. and let the mushrooms perform the show they love to perform. Its quite amazing.




I'm really tempted to do 4g and might go for it depending on how I feel on the day of the trip. But I'm hesitant to take 5g because that would be double my current max dose and I dont know if I'm ready for that yet. I have a decent supply so I can gradually progress up the dosing scale and not dive in too quick. If I can easily handle 3.5/4g I may just have to wait a couple weeks and go for 5g next.

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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: HamHead]
    #26483340 - 02/13/20 09:22 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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HamHead said:
Gotta let go.

Low to mid doses can get me there on occasion, but it requires a lot of intentions going in, and many times on an eighth, my ego hangs on a bit too much and I start kicking myself for not taking more and forcing myself to settle down and pay attention. Peaking on an eighth feels a little lackluster after a few heroic doses, while on 5+ grams, I don't have to try or look for CEVs, they're just there and in my face, making me slackjawed in awe.

Or is that all the yawning?




That Heroic dose experience is what I really want but I feel comfortable gradually progressing there. If I only had 5g I would eat it all at once but I have a decent supply so if 3.5g feels underwhelming I can just wait a couple weeks and try 5g. But I think these are some pretty potent shrooms I have because even 2.5g is a pretty strong trip for me.

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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: TokeItUp12] * 1
    #26483342 - 02/13/20 09:23 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Dose high.  Smoke weed.  No distractions.


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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: Antigov]
    #26483350 - 02/13/20 09:28 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

oooo no not peppermint !!! I know alot of ppl like that shit but i personally( and my wife) find the chemical change that it does to shrooms is not near as pleasant as shrooms tea... it changes it to ......forget name but it hits you a bit different and last shorter.


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I have spread my dreams under your feet;
Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.

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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26483359 - 02/13/20 09:33 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I really don’t understand why capsules don’t make you nauseous but tea does! It’s very usually the other way round!

But with 3.5g, and the right set and setting, you’ll have awesome CEVs and possibly out of body. Yo many need a few trips of 3.5g first to gain experience and learn how to go deeper before the out of body occurs on 3.5g.

The other advantage of tea and the faster come up is.......the faster come up.

Good luck
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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: Connection]
    #26483586 - 02/13/20 11:53 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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I do not recommend taking capsules for CEVs just eat the shrooms raw and you will have 8 Hours CEVS to enjoy and work on. The capsules will only last about 3-4 hours and will come on really intense it will be more emotional than CEVS from my experience and it will hit you much harder Much faster so i dont recommend it. Man you guys got to take Heroic doses for CEVs? I get CEV’s with 2.5 for 8 hours. Everytime. Not really necessary to do a high dose for CEVs they can be more distracting than CEVs or anything but thats my experience. An eighth with capsules man the comeup for me would be way to strong i noticed with CEVs a slow come up lasts longer. But thats my experience do what you will. I definately would take 5g if you want an out of body experience just take the whole shrooms and the trip will last longer without sudden rushes of intense energy and short durations. Thats my advice what is wrong with taking the mushies as they are the CEVs typically tend to come around after the 2 hour mark after all the psychological drama of the come up. When i used to Lemon TEKs the trip would last typically 2-4 hours and i’d crash out and goto sleep. I usually would take it at night so I wouldnt cause an effect.



8 hour trip? You must have a crazy slow metabolism. 4g is over for me at the 4/5 hour mark.. 5 hours max of eaten raw.


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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26483948 - 02/13/20 03:27 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like a perfect plan to me :thumbup:

Also if youre feeling experimental, if u take weed edibles with shrooms, u will have soms very intense/vivid CEVs as well.


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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: TokeItUp12]
    #26483963 - 02/13/20 03:38 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I don't get CEVs on mushrooms unless I take a seriously large dose. If I do, then it's like someone lighting up LEDs on my eyelids. On lysergamides, I get CEVs much easier and at way lower doses, but not with mushrooms.

And out of body experiences, that's pretty much high dose territory.

Smoking weed while you're coming up can also dial things up to 11, but I can't really say I recommend it.

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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26483979 - 02/13/20 03:47 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

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Sounds like a perfect plan to me :thumbup:

Also if youre feeling experimental, if u take weed edibles with shrooms, u will have soms very intense/vivid CEVs as well.




I've smoked while tripping which did add some noticable effect. Do you think weed edibles would amp it up even more? Because I recently made some really good brownies with distillate that are 60mg of thc a brownie. Maybe I just need to throw in one of those bad boys

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Re: How do you get awesome closed eye visuals and out of body experience on shrooms? [Re: Vibe_Enthusiast]
    #26485039 - 02/14/20 09:28 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)


I do not recommend taking capsules for CEVs just eat the shrooms raw and you will have 8 Hours CEVS to enjoy and work on. The capsules will only last about 3-4 hours and will come on really intense it will be more emotional than CEVS from my experience and it will hit you much harder Much faster so i dont recommend it. Man you guys got to take Heroic doses for CEVs? I get CEV’s with 2.5 for 8 hours. Everytime. Not really necessary to do a high dose for CEVs they can be more distracting than CEVs or anything but thats my experience. An eighth with capsules man the comeup for me would be way to strong i noticed with CEVs a slow come up lasts longer. But thats my experience do what you will. I definately would take 5g if you want an out of body experience just take the whole shrooms and the trip will last longer without sudden rushes of intense energy and short durations. Thats my advice what is wrong with taking the mushies as they are the CEVs typically tend to come around after the 2 hour mark after all the psychological drama of the come up. When i used to Lemon TEKs the trip would last typically 2-4 hours and i’d crash out and goto sleep. I usually would take it at night so I wouldnt cause an effect.



8 hour trip? You must have a crazy slow metabolism. 4g is over for me at the 4/5 hour mark.. 5 hours max of eaten raw.



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I do not recommend taking capsules for CEVs just eat the shrooms raw and you will have 8 Hours CEVS to enjoy and work on. The capsules will only last about 3-4 hours and will come on really intense it will be more emotional than CEVS from my experience and it will hit you much harder Much faster so i dont recommend it. Man you guys got to take Heroic doses for CEVs? I get CEV’s with 2.5 for 8 hours. Everytime. Not really necessary to do a high dose for CEVs they can be more distracting than CEVs or anything but thats my experience. An eighth with capsules man the comeup for me would be way to strong i noticed with CEVs a slow come up lasts longer. But thats my experience do what you will. I definately would take 5g if you want an out of body experience just take the whole shrooms and the trip will last longer without sudden rushes of intense energy and short durations. Thats my advice what is wrong with taking the mushies as they are the CEVs typically tend to come around after the 2 hour mark after all the psychological drama of the come up. When i used to Lemon TEKs the trip would last typically 2-4 hours and i’d crash out and goto sleep. I usually would take it at night so I wouldnt cause an effect.



8 hour trip? You must have a crazy slow metabolism. 4g is over for me at the 4/5 hour mark.. 5 hours max of eaten raw.



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8hrs is definitely a stretch ... CEV lasts about 3hrs on a hefty dose and the trip 5 hrs max for me anyway.. a tea trip is a fun explosive ride 4hrs and done..now the PF Tek extraction is the money shot !!! Won’t do it any other way from now on...

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