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How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams?
    #26482329 - 02/12/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

This is a controversial topic, so lets get this out of the way. This is for people that believe that a mushroom grow area can get so sullied with contams that it will sicken your current grow.... even with perfect spawn.

If one had this situation.... how would one deep clean? What kills shit? (trich for example)

I personally have a leaf blower that I hit the walls and ceiling with, then I mop the floor with soapy water. I do this whole thing twice.

1) bleach in the water?
2) do any bombs exist? (like a flea bomb?)
3) What of a massive lysol unloading with a respirator?
4) burn the house down? (primalsoup's idea)


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: tedoro]
    #26482339 - 02/12/20 05:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'd say just water and 10% bleach.. I've had trich get 3 tubs sitting next to each other.. it stopped happening after a good clean.. walls/ceiling/dressers/etc


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: tedoro]
    #26482360 - 02/12/20 05:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Biocide mold bomb fogger


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: RhizoRyan]
    #26482374 - 02/12/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

wipe your walls down let the air settle and vacuum or mop, disinfecting won't do much good for you


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: cronicr]
    #26482387 - 02/12/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

My walls are painted drywall... cheap eggshell. just use warm slightly soapy water?


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: RhizoRyan]
    #26482389 - 02/12/20 05:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Ryan97 said:
Biocide mold bomb fogger




Oh shit, I thought you were joking! but thats a thing! Do people here use it?


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: tedoro] * 2
    #26482415 - 02/12/20 06:06 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I grow in a basement with dirt floors, cobwebs, moldy old cardboard boxes and god know's what else. Doesn't affect my tubs at all.


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26482442 - 02/12/20 06:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I grow in a basement with dirt floors, cobwebs, moldy old cardboard boxes and god know's what else. Doesn't affect my tubs at all.



I'm super new just ordered spores set up a SAB and preparing for them to come so I can start my agar practice. Is your success rate good even in dirty environment? I will be using a shitty living room table and I'm worried that the air will contaminate anything I try to grow.


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: huangdeez]
    #26482455 - 02/12/20 06:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The basement is where I have my jars and tubs colonizing/spawning and fruiting. I do not do my clean work in this area.

Using a livingroom as your "lab" is just fine. I set up anywhere within reason. Livingroom/bedroom.


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26482483 - 02/12/20 06:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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The basement is where I have my jars and tubs colonizing/spawning and fruiting. I do not do my clean work in this area.

Using a livingroom as your "lab" is just fine. I set up anywhere within reason. Livingroom/bedroom.




Thats interesting. I do it all in one room. I dump my moldy tubs into a garbage bag in the same place I mix my coir with my spawn. I try to be clean, but the lore is.... you needn't be clean when you spawn to your tubs.


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: tedoro]
    #26482495 - 02/12/20 06:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

If everything has been done correctly then it doesn't matter. Clean spawn and well prepared substrate will not contaminate under normal circumstances. There are plenty of airborne contaminants in every conceivable environment other than an actual clean room.

If you have an issue with your tubs it's because of your spawn. It's either not fully colonized or it is carrying contamination in the jar.

My grow area has mold growing on the wall, it's fuckin saturated with contamination. I spawn in this room without issue.
I've made absolutely no attempt at cleaning it, period.


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26482499 - 02/12/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

There are many that disagree. I don't know the answer, but I think I fall in the camp that too high a spore load can exist.


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: tedoro]
    #26482501 - 02/12/20 06:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

trusted cultivator says... (primalsoup)"Yeah I've had trich problems and recovered.  And yeah it seems like it shows up once and then more often and then starts to show up everywhere.  The spores get into shit but they don't live forever.

So #1 if it's a problem is clean everything you can manage.  Maybe switch out locations for spawn running, for fruiting, the usual.  Change your sub around as well. Burn your house down and use the insurance to buy a new one that's never been grown in. :lol:  Or just do something else for a few years until the spores degrade.  Spawn under semi-sterile conditions without any fans running or open windows.  Fit out a room so you can wipe it all down and never bring anything into it that's been anywhere near the growing area.

But #2 is yeah it could be your spawn.  It can look healthy and all but carry the spores or a low level infection that doesn't show up until the myc colonizes certain subs and (I guess) puts out some sort of chemical signal that the trich reads to say "party time!"  That's just what it does IME.  If it's bad it just shows up right at the worst time and then it makes itself a habit of that.

Compromised spawn in any way will give trich a hold.  That's why usually it won't show up on healthy tubs until right near the end of flushes.  It's a good reason to compost tubs that have seen their better days.  Compromised spawn will invite it in before it even fruits, I had that happen just the other day with some old so-so jars that I cased out to see if they would produce anything.  You see that green you gotta get it outside quick and leave it covered up while you do so...

Think about it like this - when you start out fresh you usually never see trich.  It takes a while and some infestations before it gets a foothold.  So figure out how to get back to fresh and go from there.

Fuck, long answer, but long question.  Good luck."


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26482513 - 02/12/20 06:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I grow in a basement with dirt floors, cobwebs, moldy old cardboard boxes and god know's what else. Doesn't affect my tubs at all.




Sounds like my basement.  I got cobwebs dangling from the rafters and daddy longlegs crawling around.


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: JohnRainyII]
    #26482660 - 02/12/20 08:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Just repaint. Add some of that mildewcide paint additive if you want to be real pointlessly OCD about it.


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: tedoro]
    #26482682 - 02/12/20 08:13 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I dont want to be the asshole because I like you, but if you have trich fucking up your subs it realy boils down to dirty spawn or Ecoearth.


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26482687 - 02/12/20 08:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Not all agree...

I'm kinda unsure about the severity of the walls and being the source of nasties. I could repaint tho.


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26482755 - 02/12/20 08:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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I grow in a basement with dirt floors, cobwebs, moldy old cardboard boxes and god know's what else. Doesn't affect my tubs at all.




Same. Technique will affect your grow 100x more than whatever might be in the air.


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: antmanmax]
    #26482809 - 02/12/20 09:20 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Again, I'm all about clean spawn. I'm just expanding on those of us, including TC's that believe on some occasions, shit gets dirty. I have been a very bad boy with moldy tubs staying inside.

People vehemently believe spore load in a grow room couldn't tam a tub out. Yet often the same people say the second you see mold get it the fuck out of your county. Well I didn't and grew the fruits on the other side of the tub. And I now have a horrible time with trich.

Has anyone tried that "Biocide mold bomb fogger"? kinda an idea, no?


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Re: How to reset a mush grow room to contain no past contams? [Re: tedoro]
    #26482817 - 02/12/20 09:26 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Have you considered lining the walls and ceiling with vapour barrier or something?  Just an idea.

Im pretty sure just wiping everything down with a mild bleach solution would clean your room fantastically though.

I always thought if I was going to try to grow in a super clean room I would run a big HEPA blowing into the room for positive pressure and that would really do it.


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