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Cryptoporus volvatus
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Re: Guess that Mushroom! [Re: Ran-D]
#26395855 - 12/22/19 03:45 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ran-D said: Cryptoporus volvatus
Yep. Found in North Cascades NP.
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Re: Guess that Mushroom! [Re: Ran-D]
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Ran-D said: Cryptoporus volvatus
Hey, that's a cool species. Literally a cryptic polypore!
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yummy in my tummy?
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Agaricus campestris or arvensis?
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Re: Guess that Mushroom! [Re: th.maso]
#26398489 - 12/24/19 01:42 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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since all the TI's are in this group, I'll dare to ask my question here. for the TI's from western Europe, what would you recommend as the best field guide for mushroom determination? I looked on the forum and found the collins guide. what do you guys reckon?
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Re: Guess that Mushroom! [Re: Haywire]
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Haywire said: what would you recommend as the best field guide for mushroom determination? I looked on the forum and found the collins guide. what do you guys reckon?
Although I don't own it myself, Collins' Fungi Guide appears to be good enough, and pretty comprehensive. If you're in mainland Europe, there should be updated guides available (I don't know of any specific ones) that cover your area.
It kind of depends what you want to use it for - if it's for hunting edibles, you don't really need a large book covering 1500 species, at least not to carry around when you're hunting. Try to find a reasonable updated (max 10-15 years old) with both graphic illustrations and photographs. You'd want one that can explain vital differences between edible and poisonous look alike species, easy to use and that fits in a small knapsack or your coat pocket.
If you are hunting for mushrooms of any kind, purely for species identification and logging purposes, the literature here is so comprehensive you wouldn't want to drag it around with you. It would likely not help you much either, since this kind of study and use is tedious and not very compatible with being outdoors on foot. In such a case your best equipment is a camera, a notebook and containers that are sure to get your collections back home undamaged.
Please not that i the case of "regular" field guides, be aware that in scientific terms they are sometimes prone to errors (however small) as they might be scientifically "second rate" - meaning the authors are likely to use external sources for much of their identification texts, and thus they might miss out on recent publications or changes in taxonomy.
This isn't necessarily the author's own fault, but more likely their publishers - publishing a new book takes time if it is to be under a certain quality control, and by the time it hits the streets, science might have changed its course. On the other hand, if they rush the publication, they will often just copy old (and possibly outdated) texts from earlier versions of their own field guides, and thus age-old mistakes are inherited.
For myself I hardly ever carry books when hunting these days. I know my choice edibles around my area well enough, and in any case of doubts I'll always make a collection on the spot, take the necessary pictures and notes to bring home and try to identify them with the help of the internet and possibly other hunters in forums like this one, or make use of the more comprehensive identification literature like Funga Nordica and the FAN series (Floor Agaricina Neerlandica).
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Re: Guess that Mushroom! [Re: Haywire]
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thank you for the detailed explanation. I'm a fool for books and will probably get the collins guide for home study. It's indeed too big to take on walks and will look for a smaller pocket version, keeping this in mind.
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Anglerfish said:Try to find a reasonable updated (max 10-15 years old) with both graphic illustrations and photographs. You'd want one that can explain vital differences between edible and poisonous look alike species, easy to use and that fits in a small knapsack or your coat pocket.
thanks again!
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Re: Guess that Mushroom! [Re: th.maso]
#26399713 - 12/24/19 09:27 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Agaricus hondensis
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Anyone feel like getting this going again? Honestly, I don’t know what this is, so anyone’s guess is as good as mine. Wife found it on a trail nearby, wasn’t able to get a spore print, can’t tell you much about substrate. All I can say is it was in WA back in October.

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HSapiensAmericanus said: Anyone feel like getting this going again?[ Honestly, I don’t know what this is, so anyone’s guess is as good as mine.
Well the game in this thread requires you to have an answer for what you post, but I guess it doesn't hurt trying to get closer to this one - although I kind of doubt we'll get further than genus - if we get that far.
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Wife found it on a trail nearby, wasn’t able to get a spore print, can’t tell you much about substrate. All I can say is it was in WA back in October.


With a total lack of info and only these pictures to go from, I think the best way to get forward is to first eliminate everything it cannot be. You say you were unable to obtain a spore print, I take it that means you actually tried without any positive result. Did that include trying to print on a dark surface in case of a white print?
Also, what were the weather conditions around the time you found this? If there had been a storm or strong rains just prior to your find, it could have washed away important details like veil remnants or an annulus.
The most conspicuous features are obviously the white, apparently non-staining stem with its fuzzy rhizomorphic mycelium at the base, and the greyish broad gills that look almost free from the stem and have what looks like small blotches of white spores on some of the gill edges. Some of the gill edges also appear to have a darker edge, but this may be due to the photograph and not the mushroom.
I am under the impression that the black bits on the stem are pieces of forest duff.
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Tried to take a spore print, I did try taking it on white paper but realized after the fact it could’ve been white so I checked it against a light at a low angle to eye level and did not see any variation between where spores would’ve dropped and the paper itself. But there was also no evidence that the spores were anything but white, no smears or stains remained on the paper. .
No major weather event. It was right after the warm Fall rains started and the trail it was found on has a heavy canopy.
The entire mushroom was kinda floppy and the cap was almost leather-tough and the stem was cartilaginous.
My closest guess was Gymnopus peronatus.
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HSapiensAmericanus said: My closest guess was Gymnopus peronatus.
Interesting. It's not strikingly similar, although some of the features are present. But the picture apparently doesn't do the true colors justice with that dull lighting. The gills look greyish to me, while they absolutely could in reality be more ochre to yellowish, hard to say.
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Gill coloring was practically concurrent to pileus. I’d say it was between tawny and ochre in color.
I’d say this one is nearly that ones twin sibling: https://mushroomobserver.org/354750?q=17GvT
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