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Is there a TEK/Best Practice for birthing partially colonized pinning cakes?
    #26481748 - 02/12/20 10:45 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Slight follow up from another thread, but subject line says it all. I understand there's a risk of contamination as the cause, but let's see what happens.

So to start, I want to remove uncolonized substrate, but specifically I have these questions:

  • How do I do that? Use a fork or running water? Or both?
  • How sterile do I need to work? 
  • Once cakes are prepped, then what? Mist then? Dunk and roll them?
  • Place them in sgfc on jar lid inserts? Foil? Does it matter?
  • Should I separate them in some manner?


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Re: Is there a TEK/Best Practice for birthing partially colonized pinning cakes? [Re: 920]
    #26481793 - 02/12/20 11:12 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Take the lid off and pat the bottom of the jar until it slides out. I would do this over the sink and rinse off the uncolonized BRF. Which will probably be less than you think.

Rinse the cakes and roll them. Skip the dunk because you already have mushrooms growing, Pretty good sized ones at that.

Once they are set, leave them in the SGFC for a couple of days to set up and then fan them. Again misting isn't all that nessecary because you already have mushrooms growing.

  I would put them on a small piece of foil and Sterile work isn't going to be nessecary because we have moved into the open air fruit stage of the process.


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Re: Is there a TEK/Best Practice for birthing partially colonized pinning cakes? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26483129 - 02/13/20 05:23 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well i wouldnt dunk since theyre likely contaminated, but if you have some other form of container to fruit like shoeboxes or whatever i would definetly let em sit in some water for awhile.
The dunking step is for saturating your cakes with water which you need if you want decent sized fruits and more of them so i definetly wouldnt just skip it altogether just bottom water then dump it off after its had time to soak as much as it can up, and get a number of em into each little box to fruit out.


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Re: Is there a TEK/Best Practice for birthing partially colonized pinning cakes? [Re: Cootermonkey]
    #26483229 - 02/13/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

So keep them separated to avoid cross contamination between cakes?


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Re: Is there a TEK/Best Practice for birthing partially colonized pinning cakes? [Re: 920]
    #26483266 - 02/13/20 08:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yes


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Re: Is there a TEK/Best Practice for birthing partially colonized pinning cakes? [Re: fahtster]
    #26484141 - 02/13/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Okay then, so the plan is:

- Remove cake from jar, fork away top layer verm, rinse uncolonized portion away.
- "Bottom soak" for several hours -- i.e. soak the portion of the cake that does not have pins.
- Place in individual containers for fruiting. For this step I'm thinking very large wide cups with a couple inches of saturated perlite in the bottom and small holes all around.

Sound good?


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Re: Is there a TEK/Best Practice for birthing partially colonized pinning cakes? [Re: 920]
    #26484171 - 02/13/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Should work

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Re: Is there a TEK/Best Practice for birthing partially colonized pinning cakes? [Re: 920]
    #26484182 - 02/13/20 06:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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920 said:
Okay then, so the plan is:

- Remove cake from jar, fork away top layer verm, rinse uncolonized portion away.
- "Bottom soak" for several hours -- i.e. soak the portion of the cake that does not have pins.
- Place in individual containers for fruiting. For this step I'm thinking very large wide cups with a couple inches of saturated perlite in the bottom and small holes all around.

Sound good?





Sounds good, I do not see any reason to fork the dry vermiculite off. Just use your hands when you wash in the sink.
Also I am not convinced that bottom watering is going to help at all, I think that your cakes will have enough moisture to finish fruiting because you have an established pinset already. You are just going to end up putting your cakes in a pool of water that will boost the chances of the bacteria to spread and possibly weaken the cakes until Mold starts to take over.

Lastly I do not see why you need to separate them, no cake isolation needed here. Just fruit them all in the same SGFC.


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Re: Is there a TEK/Best Practice for birthing partially colonized pinning cakes? [Re: Sockadin]
    #26485040 - 02/14/20 09:29 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds good but I'm nervous. It's birth day...

FWIW these jars in question are the presterilized ones purchased from Midwest. Won't do that again (no idea how they were made, probably disturbed in shipping, etc.) but I want to finish what I started.

My second batch from wider jars that I prepared myself are behaving much more by the book.


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