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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26497388 - 02/21/20 05:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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weed helps but being baked is only a small part of the experience for us, we’d like a lot of the trip to be just mesc
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26497391 - 02/21/20 05:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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No doubt. A purist. I like that 
Do u add anything to your teas when u are making them? Or is it just water and cacti extract?
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#26497401 - 02/21/20 05:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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water and cacti. we should add other stuff but no time this time. we gonna try throwing up... j wondering how long we gotta keep it down for
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26497408 - 02/21/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I see. Not sure on the timing. I guess you'll find out soon enough
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26497432 - 02/21/20 06:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can add egg whites or paraffin wax to your boil before you pull it off the stove. Then remove the egg, or put the tea in the fridge till the wax cools and gets hard, then remove it.
They will both remove some of the tannins that cause some of the discomfort.
This can be done with ayahuasca, cactus tea, poppy tea, and most brews of plant matter. It also removes some of the taste of said brew.
As for boil time i go for at least 12 hours, but everyone has different views on this. I don't mind boiling a little longer to get all the goodies i can.
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: BabylonRuleDem] 1
#26497748 - 02/21/20 09:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Interesting
will adding the things into the mix before tripping work, or does it have to be added now? (like lemon essential oil)
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26497832 - 02/21/20 11:17 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can add the lemon essential oil now. Not sure on the egg whites/paraffin wax (just heard about it here)
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26497948 - 02/22/20 03:32 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you're just using water and cactus I've found adding a bit of vinegar or citric acid can help, salts are easier on the stomach.
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Lophophora] 2
#26497949 - 02/22/20 03:42 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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96 inches of cacti in one mason jar.
 Feels pretty awesome.
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26498556 - 02/22/20 02:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn thats a lot of cacti!!
If thats a half gallon mason jar, thats 64oz. So about 1.5inches of cacti per 1 fluid ounce. Very nice ratio!
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Korean Jesus]
#26498664 - 02/22/20 03:40 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Korean Jesus said: How long do i have to hold it down before puking?
also, on an unrelated note, how long do I have to cook for to get all the mesc out?
I try to hold it down for at least an hour or two. Keeping it down for an hour should be long enough for most of the alkaloids to absorb into your system.
I never really "force" puking though, the one time I did puke from cactus it came up all by itself and at that point I could not hold it down any longer (around 90 minutes after dosing)...For me, the stomach load and nausea usually fades away by around 3 hours after consumption. The one time I puked, all nausea and stomach load and "load" on my being in general was completely gone immediately after. I felt like a million bucks after.
When brewing....I usually brew for 3 to 4 hours before I start filter and start reducing in a separate pot.
4 hours should be plenty...And I never really "cook" the cactus or let it boil, I keep it right at or below a simmer. Sometimes I'll do a brew for a few hours and let it soak over night before filtering and reducing it the next day....Another method is using a crock pot, and just letting it brew at a relatively mild heat for a day or so before filtering and reducing it down.
One time I went from cutting up my cactus, to brewing, to drinking the tea, in just 3 hours....and it was the 2nd most potent cup of cactus tea I've ever had (that was actually the one and only time I puked from cacti). So I find that a long brew session isn't necessary, a few hours should do it, but a long brew doesn't hurt either....I brewed for maybe only 1.5 to 2 hours that time and it still turned out potent, and that was with only 18 inches of the "PC" (which is said to be weak, but it can be plenty potent IME with it).
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: openmind]
#26498674 - 02/22/20 03:43 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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BabylonRuleDem said: You can add egg whites or paraffin wax to your boil before you pull it off the stove. Then remove the egg, or put the tea in the fridge till the wax cools and gets hard, then remove it.
They will both remove some of the tannins that cause some of the discomfort.
This can be done with ayahuasca, cactus tea, poppy tea, and most brews of plant matter. It also removes some of the taste of said brew.
As for boil time i go for at least 12 hours, but everyone has different views on this. I don't mind boiling a little longer to get all the goodies i can.
Probably won't hurt, but from what I understand there isn't much tannins at all in cactus.
Using an egg-white wash is mostly for materials that are super high in tannins, like bark/woody teas (like acacia & mimosa tea). Bark/wood is super high in tannins, you can feel the tannins on the tongue when taking just a sip of acacia or mimosa tea, tannins have a distinct feel on the tongue/mouth (kinda dry, astringent, & prickly) and I don't get any of it from cactus.
The stomach load and nausea from cactus is not caused by tannins...it is being caused mostly by the mescaline itself....Even extracted mescaline will cause a stomach load, that's just the nature of mescaline for some folks, it has high affinity for serotonin receptors all through out the gut.
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LogicaL Chaos said: You can add the lemon essential oil now.
It probably doesn't make too big of a difference...
....but if using LEO as an anti-emetic, I'd prefer to dose the LEO separately and a little while prior to consuming the tea.
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Korean Jesus said: 96 inches of cacti in one mason jar.
 Feels pretty awesome.
Nice....
That's about the same amount of cactus I did a brew on last year, and about the same amount of tea I ended with (is that a quart size jar?)...I got about 8 feet of thick cactus reduced down to about 3/4 of a quart jar, my tea was just a bit darker/a bit more brown in color.
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#26498758 - 02/22/20 04:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Damn thats a lot of cacti!!
If thats a half gallon mason jar, thats 64oz. So about 1.5inches of cacti per 1 fluid ounce. Very nice ratio!
It’s only a quart 
It looks much prettier than 4 cacti in a jar

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