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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Korean Jesus] * 2
    #26483584 - 02/13/20 11:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well, even pure mescaline crystal does produce nausea to a certain extend.

The only way to avoid too much nausea is to split the dose into a couple of parts and take them time delayed, not all at once.

With tea, just take a few gulps and then wait ten minutes before drinking again. Just like Grey Fox said. :thumbup:

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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26483639 - 02/13/20 12:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

This! Exactly mescaline itself is nauseating to me, still love it but I've taken mescaline I've washed with anhydrous acetone (for hcl) or cold anhydrous MEK (far acetate) 10 times and had slightly off white to pure white product and I still get a bit nauseous granted not generally enough to puke but uncomfortable for a couple hours.


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26483951 - 02/13/20 03:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

As mentioned, if u wanna avoid the sick feeling, u have to do an extraction and get white crystalz. Theres no other way to avoid it :shrug:


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Grey Fox]
    #26483993 - 02/13/20 03:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

.  I have acquired about a pound of cactus powder, from a foreign vendor. Have not tried it so I do not know the quality. Thinking of doing the "D-limonene mescaline HCL extraction tek" ; but that would be a hassle due to my present living arrangement - so the questions Are:
Would a teaspoon or tablespoon in tea (with ginger and Lemon essential oil):
1) serve to test the potency?
2) would it be likely to be a micro dose?
3) is it likely to cause nausea at such a dose?

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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: laughingdog]
    #26484017 - 02/13/20 04:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

1. No. Unless you are already familiar with the effects, I don’t believe a tablespoon of powdered cactus is enough to gauge potency.

2. Yes. Might feel some stimulation or mood changes, but nothing like a trip.

3. No. Maybe, depends how tough your tummy is.

Have you tasted it yet? 😀  I personally would skip the smaller taste test sample and go straight for a low dose attempt.

Unless it is exceptionally potent, 30g will be quite mild. But that should give you a better idea of what you are working with.

I am referencing a single kilo of t. Pachanoi from like 6 years ago. So, ymmv

Only other cactus experiences have been with fresh.


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Shr00mEater]
    #26484041 - 02/13/20 04:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

thanks
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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #26484073 - 02/13/20 05:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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As mentioned, if u wanna avoid the sick feeling, u have to do an extraction and get white crystalz. Theres no other way to avoid it :shrug:





It is the mescaline itself that is causing most of the sick feeling/nausea...A lot of folks that have taken extracted mescaline in a capsule still report stomach load and nausea. That's just the nature of mescaline for a lot of people.

Mescaline has affinity for serotonin receptors all through out the gut...causing a load on the gut & nausea and potentially puking.





I try to do things to make the stomach load more tolerable, like having a little bit of food in my stomach and smoking weed and not moving around much & relaxing in place for the first two hours...but a stomach load and puking is something that usually happens from mescaline (at least with any substantial dose, one is likely going to puke or go through a period of stomach load).....Unless someone has a major aversion/fear of puking, I don't understand what the big deal is :shrug: . After I puke I usually feel amazing immediately after, literally as if a "load" has been taken off me, I feel light and airy after puking from things like cactus or rue/mimosa.




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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: openmind]
    #26484170 - 02/13/20 06:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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Unless someone has a major aversion/fear of puking, I don't understand what the big deal is :shrug: . After I puke I usually feel amazing immediately after, literally as if a "load" has been taken off me, I feel light and airy after puking from things like cactus or rue/mimosa.




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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: openmind]
    #26484618 - 02/14/20 02:51 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, a little bit of food helps a lot. Kind of soaks up the harsh alkali-like cactus tea. :thumbup:

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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Pandemoon]
    #26485523 - 02/14/20 02:00 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks Pandemoon


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: laughingdog] * 2
    #26485536 - 02/14/20 02:05 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Pandemoon, sailor moon's cousin, lol.

Like Nostradamus's cousin, Nostrildamus, he could smell the future!:grin:


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #26486625 - 02/15/20 07:23 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I still get sick from extracted mescaline...best thing I found to block the nausea is to eat a couple of datura seeds.


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: redeyesmj]
    #26497362 - 02/21/20 05:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

How long do i have to hold it down before puking?

also, on an unrelated note, how long do I have to cook for to get all the mesc out?


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26497365 - 02/21/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

You shouldnt need to throw up ever. I never do, but havent gotten close when i was cooking cacti while on cacti mescaline.

I find that 6-8 hours of boiling does the job pretty well.


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26497368 - 02/21/20 05:29 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

we decided we’re gonna throw up bc we don’t want to be nauseous the whole trip and people say u feel great after throwing up


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26497370 - 02/21/20 05:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

The sickness goes away after an hour or so. Its not the whooooole trip.


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26497372 - 02/21/20 05:31 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It didn’t for us last time. Took like halfway into the trip to go away. And we’re taking more this time.

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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26497378 - 02/21/20 05:35 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I have a sorta weak stomach. I get stomach sickness pretty easily. Did u smoke cannabis during the trip at all?


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #26497382 - 02/21/20 05:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

During it yeah. Would you recommend getting super baked in the come up?


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Re: Tips for reducing nausea from cactus tea? [Re: Korean Jesus]
    #26497385 - 02/21/20 05:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

No i recommend smoking 2hrs into the trip. So the weed doesnt help with the stomach sickness? Perhaps try adding lemon oil extract or fresh ginger to your teas to help out.


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