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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: Swinette]
#26480733 - 02/11/20 05:45 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Its like a wormhole to another dimension and after you pass through the old dimension is gone forevermore. I came from a dimension of hitlers so i stayed in this one but would love to get back to the breastenticle universe that was fun.
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: Swinette]
#26480743 - 02/11/20 05:51 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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1. Smoke it. 2. Not too long. 3. Quite Intense.
What exactly makes you curious to try it?
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: Swinette]
#26480753 - 02/11/20 05:55 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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The length of the trip
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: Naturalelixir]
#26480763 - 02/11/20 05:59 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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It lasts maybe 10-20 minutes when smoked and then kind of lingers for 30 minutes to an hour.
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: Swinette]
#26480791 - 02/11/20 06:16 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Never seen one but I see no reason why you couldn't put DMT in a cart. I could see it potentially being very effective if dosed heavy enough so id take it easy at first.
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: azramb]
#26481320 - 02/12/20 01:37 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Expect the unexpected. There's nothing that can really prepare you for it.
You will be scared the first time, then you'll either want more or never again.
There's no way to really explain. Just do it.
edit: best way to do DMT is changa, without a doubt. Unless you are going to take it orally, but that's another story.
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: Northerner]
#26481338 - 02/12/20 01:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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As the Rolodex spins and spins.
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: WhoManBeing]
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For the win!
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: WhoManBeing] 1
#26481454 - 02/12/20 06:20 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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the best way to describe the DMT experience is via this quote i found (and also posted in the research thread) from the video game, The Witness, i replayed a while back after a dmt trip, almost as if i was meant to find it and hear it, to understand:
"We have two kinds of knowledge which I call symbolic and intimate. I do not know whether it would be correct to say that reasoning is only applicable to symbolic knowledge, but the more customary forms of reasoning have been developed for symbolic knowledge only. The intimate knowledge will not submit to codification and analysis, or, rather, when we attempt to analyze it the intimacy is lost and replaced by symbolism.
For an illustration let us consider Humour. I suppose that humour can be analyzed to some extent and the essential ingredients of the different kinds of wit classified. Suppose that we are offered an alleged joke. We subject it to scientific analysis as we would a chemical salt of doubtful nature, and perhaps after careful consideration we are able to confirm that it really and truly is a joke. Logically, I suppose, our next procedure would be to laugh.
But it may certainly be predicted that as a result of this scrutiny that we shall have lost all inclination we ever had to laugh at it. It simply does not do to expose the workings of a joke. The classification concerns a symbolic knowledge of humour which preserves all the characteristics of a joke except its laughableness. The real appreciation must come spontaneously, not introspectively.
I think this is a not unfair analogy for our mystical feeling for Nature, and I would even apply it to our mystical experience of God. There are some to whom the sense of a divine presence irradiating the soul is one of the most obvious things of experience. In their view, a man without this sense is to be regarded as we regard a man without a sense of humour. The absence is a kind of mental deficiency. We may try to analyze the experience as we analyze humour, and construct a theology, or it may be an atheistic philosophy...
But let us not forget that the theology is symbolic knowledge, whereas the experience is intimate knowledge. And as laughter cannot be compelled by the scientific exposition of the structure of a joke, so a philosophic discussion of the attributes of God (or an impersonal substitute) is likely to miss the intimate response of the spirit which is the central point of the religious experience."
-Arthur Eddington, 1927
you cannot really describe the dmt experience to others. you can only hear, feel, and think on it, because it is an experience tailor-made to you. it is YOUR journey to live, YOUR story to tell. all i can say is, if you are willing to accept new aspects of yourself, new facets of the truth, you will see God. i'm not talking about some bearded, white-robed saint guarding some pearly white gates either, though you might see that if that is what you need.
God is... not an object. not a person. if that were the case, we could measure God with our instruments. instead, God is the connections between...everything. the relationships between friends, the knowledge we gain, the worlds we create from our imaginations and share as stories, to inspire imaginations in others... God is everywhere and nowhere, divine and mundane.
the psychedelic experience helps you understand you grasp this truth, just a little.
that and the fact that time, as we understand it, is an illusion. time is WEIRD.
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: Psion]
#26481466 - 02/12/20 06:40 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Very good quote. I have played that game but it is pretty difficult. I remember the audio logs being my main motivation to make it through the mazes.
The unconscious world is so mysterious. Dreaming is weird af and not so different from tripping. All I can tell you is this life is wild.
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: The Mycologist]
#26481513 - 02/12/20 07:31 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh man, The Witness is fucking fantastic.
I dunno, as far as DMT goes... hell, as far as all of my psychedelic experience goes... I like to draw out the process and make it ritualistic. I like to watch things grow and appreciate their life. Break apart roots and vines, taking in the aromas and particulate matter. Mortar and pestle. Brew plant matter for hours on end and clarify the tea. Put all my damn senses and care into the process. I like trips that both seem like an eternity and take up a large portion of my day and my concentration.
Anymore, although I know they're not exactly the same neurochemically speaking, I like taking really strong brews of mushrooms for my gateway to another world. It may interact with my body a bit differently, but it definitely takes me to the same space as DMT. I like having the phase-in/phase-out aspect of transcendence.. the introduction and coda. Having those sustained general hallucinogenic properties of mushrooms really makes the experience feel like a journey. And I'm a wanderer.
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: footpath]
#26482500 - 02/12/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nice post Psion, that is a great way of indirectly describing the feeling of indescribableness lol. Reminds me of another quote, I forget the author: "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture." Some experiences, like music and DMT, have to be felt and interpreted intimately.
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: footpath]
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also... expect changes after the trip. most likely for the better, although it might not always seem like it at first at the time. (for instance, you might wind up breaking up a long-time relationship with a friend or lover, then realize months later that they were actually holding you back from pursuing your dreams, for instance.)
in my own example, my own trips i kept getting this annoying neck pain and jaw tension during trips and the occasional "man i should probably see a doctor about this sometime." eveeeentually i got around to finally using my free obamacare to see a doctor for the first time in uh... 20 years? since i was like 14 at any rate. and started finding some issues. got a septoplasmy and now i can breathe far better than i used to, to start off. found out my spine was seriously out of alignment and got it fixed over several chiropractic sessions, which got rid of all but the dullest aches.
then in my pursuit to figure out why my shoulder and jaw keep tensing up every time i need to (no shit) take a crap, triggering a migraine, (it isn't IBS, a colonoscopy came out all clear), went to see a clinical dietitian for weight loss and found out that, while my thyroid was fine, my fasting insulin was 73.1, when it should be closer to 25 or lower ideally, signalling insulin resistance.
so now i've been taking metformin for about a week and a half so far, plus topirimate for the frequent migraines (with a happy side effect of weight loss!) and have lost about 6 lb so far. the migraines have gone down from about 5x a week to about 2x a week so far already, and i'm not getting as much tension in the jaw either anymore. weirdly enough, my lower back has also stopped hurting almost completely now, and i have a bit more energy as well. i've always struggled to lose weight, and diets have always never seemed to work, so it's likely the insulin resistance was holding me back. that, and the resting metabolism... the resting metabolic panel said i was burning about 1700 calories a day, instead of the expected 2350ish. <_<
i always thought i was fairly healthy, but it took a constant annoying pain during my trips to force me to finally see a doctor and realize i was well overdue for a checkup, and it's a good thing i did! otherwise i would've eventually wound up diabetic.
if something keeps coming up in your journeys, try listening to it with an open mind. that doesn't mean you have to accept it point blank, but at least take it into consideration, and happy travels!
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: Psion]
#26482567 - 02/12/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Word, Psion. Ayahuasca has great diagnosis potential. On one trip I was able to feel my internal body so precisely that I was visualizing it like a Magic School Bus episode; diving through the veins, muscle tissue, skeletal structure. It was like the Aya was doing a full body scan and healing or bringing light to my being. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3h1fyg
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: Icon]
#26482619 - 02/12/20 07:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hi friend!
As compared to LSD or mushrooms, DMT is---different. Honestly, it's less scary once you're there then before you went. It was the last of the psychedelics I tried and by far the most unique. It rushes you in and out and sends you back.
Try it. You'll be fine.
1. I like the Yocan Evolve Plus with donut coils. Fairly inexpensive, consistent and no danger of setting something on fire. 2. Freebase vaporized lasts about 10-15 "real" minutes. That won't be relevant since you won't be in time. 3. It's intense, but not unmanageable at lower doses (25mg or less). You can try a small amount to wet your feet if you want and then dive in completely afterwards. The tolerance reset happens very quickly. Speaking of quickly, so is the come up. That's what really makes it crazy. You're going from sober to peaking in 30 seconds or less. Somewhere past 35mg you'll reach territory where the word "intense" would no longer be adequate to describe.
I haven't tried Changa yet, but I've heard that's a good method/experience too.
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Re: What to expect with DMT? Best way to do it? [Re: Psion]
#26713133 - 06/02/20 06:30 AM (3 years, 7 months ago) |
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I love witness! great great quote
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