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Growing azurescenes (so close) * 1
    #26480658 - 02/11/20 04:49 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)





This is my 2 spawn bags of azuresene wbs spawn, hard wood chips, hard wood pellets, gypsum, they been colonizing for months in my garage, I put them into fruiting conditions 2 months ago.
The temp is 5-10°C
Humidity is 95+
Lighting 12/12

Any tips? I feel like giving more FAE, and casing with hard wood. Keep it inside.. anyone have any positive advice besides plant it outside?


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26480710 - 02/11/20 05:27 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Maybe try a classic 50/50+ casing as the azure won't colonize it like it would with wood.

Also, if there's no soil it's not likely to fruit. I think that there may be
a relationship between the soil microbes and the mycelium.

Perhaps spawn a small 2 or 3 inch layer of your spawn mix on top of soil in a planter, then case. :shrug:

This is what I would try.


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26480868 - 02/11/20 07:01 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I would soak the entire thing in water, gypsum for 24 hours

Then grab a bag of indoor potting soil and some large clay planters, bury them and hope you can sustain those temps for at least 90 days

Some guy moricz has gotten away with just bucketed coir for cyans so maybe u can try that way too for one of your bags

GLuck man that’s some tough mushies to grow indoors:cool:


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26480891 - 02/11/20 07:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Soil layers seem to help with azurescens. I have a planter type grow that didn't fruit this season (planted late) but I have faith in the system.

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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26480985 - 02/11/20 08:07 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, I remember WayLit used to mix nutritious soil in his subs. Worked real good

For Azzies it’s about them temps man, you gotta have that Astoria shit 30s/40s day/night straight to get them

Cross upper 40s then Cyans territory, 50s allenii and ovoids

I think that’s why azzies be so rare

Pulling 30s/40s indoors straight for a few months is def a challenge


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: Ryzo] * 1
    #26481068 - 02/11/20 08:58 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I'm surprised we dont see more fridge grows.. I'd get a mini fridge to keep them going for the summer.
I can keep them low temp like this till may and it's already been most of the past few months. They been fruiting for 2 months.


Thanks so much for the input guys. I'll case with cactus + verm next week. They look like they want to. Everything is going well. I might get some fruits:) I'll put them close to the garage door where its cooler. Thanks guys


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26481091 - 02/11/20 09:10 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It’s because fridges are generally around low 30s to keep food fresh and stop organisms from growing (including mycelium)

We need that circadian rhythm type shit where it’s not a 30F flat the entire time

Since these types need unsterile soil, that would be tough all trapped inside a fridge without turning green

Fresh air, humidity, the right kelvin for light, fridge grows are a lot trickier than one would assume

Better the more natural way, spawn to some soil in a pot or outside and let nature do her thing


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: Ryzo] * 1
    #26481141 - 02/11/20 09:41 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

That's fair. But I can easily humidify a fridge with a fresh air setup. Tape over the bottom so it thinks the door is closed to keep it running, then a funnel/fan/hose to send in air, and humidity is easy. Tiny humidifier. Boom.

With a will these a way.. and I'm going to make these bags fruit until I fail miserably lol


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26481144 - 02/11/20 09:44 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Casing for sure. They fruit off of burlap pretty well.


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26481156 - 02/11/20 09:57 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

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That's fair. But I can easily humidify a fridge with a fresh air setup. Tape over the bottom so it thinks the door is closed to keep it running, then a funnel/fan/hose to send in air, and humidity is easy. Tiny humidifier. Boom.

With a will these a way.. and I'm going to make these bags fruit until I fail miserably lol




I've seen my roommates try all kinds of shit with cold woodlovers including what you describe

The problem you'll run into is the fridge compressor

same thing with wine coolers and beverage coolers

The compressors can't handle abuse

They usually burn out after some time, just don't get a fancy fridge if ur gonna try lol


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: Ryzo]
    #26481540 - 02/12/20 07:52 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Nice, that's good to know. Yeah I'll keep it as closed as possible for minimal heat loss, the air hose will be as small as possible. I was also considering cutting a hole to make this even more pro.

Yeah brother, it will be a az/wood lover dedicated fridge.. I think I can get one for less than 150 canadian.


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26481847 - 02/12/20 11:44 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Sounds like you need one of those big meat freezers that open upwards.


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: A.k.a] * 1
    #26481864 - 02/12/20 11:54 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Chest freezer with a temp controller would work well for temp but it would need a clear glass lid to allow light in.


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26481907 - 02/12/20 12:21 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

It's easy to put a light inside.


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26481923 - 02/12/20 12:37 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Well do us all a favor and nail down the indoor azzie problem ; )


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: Stipe-n Cap]
    #26482163 - 02/12/20 03:15 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

A friend of mine scored a giant commercial coke fridge one time on Craigslist, pretty much a big ass vertical chest freezer with a glass door

It was cool, nice and spacious, but no temp controls

We put it in the garage and realized later that it became temp dependent, meaning the ambient temperature outside affected the compressor

Nights made it too cold and hot summer days made a little too warm

This effect happens with wine coolers too if anyone has ever owned one

Even in insulated environments, they generally become affected by the outside temp swings after some time

Anyway, Azures wouldn’t fruit both with sterile and unsterile casing

Worst part was big freezers are loud as shit, the monthly electrical bill was off the roof like 200 bucks a month

Something to keep in mind if you’re gonna play around with a commercial level fridge, the cost and maintenance


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: Ryzo]
    #26482174 - 02/12/20 03:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Did you guys get mycelium looking like mine before you cased?


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26482278 - 02/12/20 04:25 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I've never gotten them to fruit indoors. Always colonize great, but dont fruit until I eventually put them outside


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: c10h12n2o]
    #26482300 - 02/12/20 04:42 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Frigg... lol


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26482308 - 02/12/20 04:48 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Getting those temps right is a bitch indoors... but if you live somewhere they occur naturally you can have a great outdoor patch/pot


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26482695 - 02/12/20 08:18 PM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Did you guys get mycelium looking like mine before you cased?




We all do mayne haha

If it was easy everyone would be doin it and throwin up pics

just like c10 said, getting it colonized isn't a problem, fruiting them is fersure a biznitch


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: Ryzo]
    #26483431 - 02/13/20 10:20 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

I got 2-3 months left of winter... I'll put the bags on my deck once my garage warms up if I dont build a fridge.
My fingers are crossed and I have all the patients in the world.


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Re: Growing azurescenes (so close) [Re: BlueTryptoYoshi]
    #26483469 - 02/13/20 10:46 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Depending on where you live winter might work better


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