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Hawaiian Baby Woodrose - India Strain Vs. Hawaiian Strain?
#26479860 - 02/11/20 09:48 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey fellow psychonauts! Hope you're all having a great day! So the title is my question. I have noticed with Sponsored vendors that the India Strain is a great deal less expensive than the Hawaiian Strain
Also, what about the Ayurvedic Strain? World Seed Supply, for example, one of the Shroomery's sponsors, has a Kilogram for $75.00USD, versus $299.99USD for the Hawaiian Strain, although this seller doesn't specifically list the India Strain.
I have noticed that the Hawaiian Strain is much more expensive overall, with all sellers. I also think that the 50 seed starter pack I purchased before I even found this forum is probably NOT the Hawaiian Strain. From what I have read, and I may be wrong, the Hawaiian Strain has a lot of fuzz on each seed. The seeds I have contain almost no fuzz, even though the seller (who shall remain nameless in deference to site rules) lists them as the Hawaiian Strain.
Is this true that No Fuzz = NOT true Hawaiian Strain?
If so, and say I go with the cheaper, non Hawaiian Strains, from a sponsor site like World Seed Supply, what is the difference? I can say that with the two trips I took on the seeds I have (one a 6 seed try and a 10ish seed dose with a Non-Polar/Polar extraction) there were profound, trippy effects, but no colors or visuals at all.
Edited by LSA Woodrose (02/11/20 09:57 AM)
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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose - India Strain Vs. Hawaiian Strain? [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26479899 - 02/11/20 10:11 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm not sure if a true hawaiian strain even exists. It could all just be marketing.. Argyreia nervosa is argyreia nervosa.  The true plant comes from india /asia. Hawaiian plants are adventive plants. That's all I know.
Fuzz is neglectible. The seller might just have cleaned them up before. It's pretty simple to get rid of the fuzz, just rub a couple of hundred seeds in a towel for a minute and they are clean.
Whenever I bought those seeds I didn't care about any variety. I just bought them from plantshops, not smart /drug shops. Way to expensive if bought from a psychedelic smartshop.
10 seeds always floored me hard, like two hits of acid or so.
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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose - India Strain Vs. Hawaiian Strain? [Re: Pandemoon]
#26479901 - 02/11/20 10:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info! Pandemoon, do you extract the LSA or just eat them outright?
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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose - India Strain Vs. Hawaiian Strain? [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26479919 - 02/11/20 10:26 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I made tea, or water extractions. Eating them raw made me very nauseous.
I always failed with more complicated extractions. Iso-alc soak and evape gave me a brown residue, but it was almost non active.
For tea /cold water extraction:
Just grind the seeds to a fine powder, let soak in cold or lukewarm water for half an hour to an hour, filter though coffeefilter, mix with something tasty, drink. Don't use glass jars. Sunlight degrades the actives. Use a cup with a lid ontop.
Washing the seedpowder with naphtha helps getting rid of some unwanted ingredients. Just soak the powder in naphtha for an hour, pour out naphtha, dry the powder on a plate. Repeat two times. Less nausea this way. Ingest the powder after it's fully dried.
Maybe take an ibuprofen as vasodilator. Those seeds can be rough on the body, vasoconstriction is heavy in higher doses.
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Edited by Pandemoon (02/11/20 10:31 AM)
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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose - India Strain Vs. Hawaiian Strain? [Re: Pandemoon]
#26479934 - 02/11/20 10:39 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Podemon, I hadn't tripped in years, and was a little cautious, so to get my feet wet, I ordered 50 seeds, and my first trip was with a mere 6 seeds. I did a simple water extraction with no Naptha or other non-polar solvent. All I did was to grind the 6 seeds up with a coffee grinder, then I took a regular Lipton tea bag, emptied the contents and poured in the seed powder. I also added a clove of garlic, which I put through my garlic press. Then I folded the HBWR tea bag over and stapled it closed so nothing would leak out. I actually put the tea bag in the lukewarm water, shook it up by dunking the teabag over and over again. I have a very heavily tinted mixer, one of those things I use for my protein shakes, and it is like two shades away from being opaque, which kept the light out of the mix. Every time I thought of it, I swirled the shaker around or simply opened it up and dunked the tea around in the water.
I left the mixture overnight. I had a surprisingly heavy trip experience from just the 6 seeds. Not sure if leaving it in the water overnight, verses an hour or two, extracted more LSA or if that's just placebo. Interestingly enough, no nausea at all.
Oh, and since I didn't have any distilled water on hand at the time, I just boiled about 500 ML of water to get rid of the Chlorine, which is very destructive to LSA. I have since purchased a gallon of distilled water to use in the future.
Edit: I like your idea about Ibuprofen, by the way.
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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose - India Strain Vs. Hawaiian Strain? [Re: LSA Woodrose]
#26479940 - 02/11/20 10:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sounds about right! 
6 seeds is a good dose already. Seems like they kicked good.
To avoid too much nausea with bigger doses (10 seeds or more), just split your dose into two parts and drink them half an hour appart.

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Re: Hawaiian Baby Woodrose - India Strain Vs. Hawaiian Strain? [Re: Pandemoon]
#26479962 - 02/11/20 10:55 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Pandemoon said: Sounds about right! 
6 seeds is a good dose already. Seems like they kicked good.
To avoid too much nausea with bigger doses (10 seeds or more), just split your dose into two parts and drink them half an hour appart.

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I did something similar with my second trip using the same 50 seeds. I did a Non-Polar/Polar extraction with some seeds, I think it was around 25. BUT I had made a mistake when using a mortar & pestle, instead of a coffee grinder. Since I was a little lazy, it was more "chunky" than powder. I should have sucked it up and spent the time powdering it. I'm sure I lose a lot of LSA from that bonehead move. So my bad on that.
Anyway, I knew going into the trip that it wasn't anywhere near a full 25 seeds, so I took all the yield, in aqueous an impromptu solution, and I drank half of it. Then over the course of a few hours, I simply sipped at the other half whenever I thought of it.
Edited by LSA Woodrose (02/11/20 10:56 AM)
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