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I hate beerweed. 1
#26479582 - 02/11/20 05:40 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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No I'm not talking of the controversial member of old, allow me to explain.
My best friend is gifted, he'a bright. A musician, a sensitive human being.
Wonderful person.
He has however an impulse control issue: he drinks and he tokes, and these two invite each other. A beer invites a weed and a weed invites a beer. He downs a few of both in rapid succession.
Presto! I'm stuck with a retard who can't be reasoned with. Who's personality has become an unflattering caricature of the sensitive person he was. The memory impairment of the THC and the mind dulling effects of alcohol drop his IQ like 40 points.
You try to tell him something, he constantly interjects bullshit into it undermining your message getting across, his thinking is so impaired that what he says are feels about things are caricatural. He starts perceiving me as a caricature and doesn't take me seriously.
And he DOESN'T GET what it does to him. How impaired and incomplete he is under the influence.
It fucking throws his brain in the woodchipper.
If these were great quantities I could see it, but we're talking like 2 beers and 2 joints and its curtains for him.
Weed can be intellectually stimulating, beer can be jolly, but the combination acts on him like he had a brick to the back of his head. The combination amplifies the negative effects of both in him.
He seeks a disconnect with reality, to just "be gone" and the THC-alcohol combination hives him that.
He knows he has problems with alcohol and weed but the combination in him is so ugly. Its cost him girlfriends and friendships eroded.
Its just "getting fucked up", I wouldnt call what he has, "High".
Weed has its merit, alcohol has its merit, but he combines the two and he's like he just staggered out of a car crash.
Yes he zombifies and drives.
I hate beerweed. A combination to get FUCKED UP.
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: Asante]
#26479584 - 02/11/20 05:43 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've had psychotic episodes everytime I blow smoke while hammered. A lot of knowing what people are going to say before they say it or events that will happen before they happen. Happened occasionally on really good weed when I was younger too.
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: Shiithead] 1
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Sadly it would seem that BeerWeed420 was banned back in '04.
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: psi]
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: Shiithead]
#26479661 - 02/11/20 07:15 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Shiithead said: I've had psychotic episodes everytime I blow smoke while hammered.
Same happened to me, got wasted at a wedding with an open bar, then got handed a concentrate pen at the after party. One hit and it felt like time had stopped, I was looking at myself from above in split screen and listening to every separate conversation going on individually. Started getting convinced everyone was making fun of me and plotting against me, like the weed was a setup. Told my wife "We need to go..." Next thing I remember is waking up in my hotel room.
Have done it other times and it's been okay, eliminate most of the weed anxiety. Not really synergistic though, as Asante said though it feels like more of a "get fucked up" combo to me, which has its place but isnt really what I use THC for
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#26479696 - 02/11/20 07:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: feevers]
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Shiithead said: I've had psychotic episodes everytime I blow smoke while hammered.
Same happened to me, got wasted at a wedding with an open bar, then got handed a concentrate pen at the after party. One hit and it felt like time had stopped, I was looking at myself from above in split screen and listening to every separate conversation going on individually. Started getting convinced everyone was making fun of me and plotting against me, like the weed was a setup. Told my wife "We need to go..." Next thing I remember is waking up in my hotel room.
Have done it other times and it's been okay, eliminate most of the weed anxiety. Not really synergistic though, as Asante said though it feels like more of a "get fucked up" combo to me, which has its place but isnt really what I use THC for
It's like getting blasted out of cannon. I also get the feeling I'm being setup. And I puke everytime. Even if it's hours later.
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: Asante]
#26480232 - 02/11/20 01:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sounds like Mr. Dutch Beerweed needs an intervention 
I thought this thread might be about a new type of beer that has active THC inside it....
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Its just a cheap way to be an addict without looking the part
when u smoke weed with other drugs the weed takes a back seat and just kinda enhances the other drugs
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: Asante] 1
#26480367 - 02/11/20 02:39 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Getting crossfaded sucks. It's a notoriously shitty combo. I've never had anything remotely approaching a good time combining beer with weed. I could maybe understand if someone was an alcohol or something where the alcohol was going to happen anyway, but... It's a shitty combo for sure.
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Asante said: If these were great quantities I could see it, but we're talking like 2 beers and 2 joints and its curtains for him.
I hate beerweed. A combination to get FUCKED UP.
Sounds like the issue is your friend/the individual and not so much the "drugs".
Sounds like a light weight too...2 beers and 2 joints isn't much at all. Unless we're talking like strong pale ales and some big joints of hash, even then I wouldn't consider that to be much...that's just getting started for a lot of people lol.
I'm not a fan of the drug alcohol specifically but I'll have a few beers from time to time...I smoke daily so I always end up smoking at some point after having some beer. I'm still pretty coherent and functional after a few beers and a few joints , perhaps a bit faded but not "out of my gourd" in anyway.
When I was younger and hadn't figured things out yet though lol....there were several times that I'd take a toke or two off a pipe while I was really buzzed or drunk, and man it would have me so faded and fucked up. Puking and intense spins. I learned real quick though.
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: nooneman]
#26480374 - 02/11/20 02:46 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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i like to get super stoned and have a drink to come back
any more than that kills it
This is one of the issues with society condoning specific substances instead of general education
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: nooneman] 2
#26480380 - 02/11/20 02:47 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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wtf, I love beer and weed. I mean, generally it's a one drink and done situation for me because the type of beer I like is like 250 calories a bottle and usually 7%abv or higher - and also because I'm normally not looking to get schwasted(especially off beer). But something about that combo is really nice imo. Especially on a really hot humid day after a hike.
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its chill, but it can get away from you
drinking is a lil different in europe
probs the same in PA tho
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: Asante]
#26480396 - 02/11/20 02:53 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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He chooses to drink and toke. To assume he has an "impulse control issue" reflects your aversion to his decisions. Because some people behave in ways that go against your hopes and expectations doesn't mean they have a "problem". That's your problem - not theirs! He finds benefits in the behavior, and that's his right to do so. Don't let aversion destroy your love.
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Sure, but so can anything 
I do agree that less is more, probably for most people. Nothing is more obnoxious than a grown ass adult that can't take care of their shit. If it only happens once in a blue moon that's one thing, but if it's someone you can't kick back with at all without them getting sooo faded that you can't even interact with them really, then that sucks.
My impression of European drinking is that it's more casual, and fairly normal to have one beer or wine with lunch, fairly normal to give your kids a little bit of alcohol with dinner, and that binge drinking is less of a problem.
But the Europeans I've actually known have assured me that binge drinking is still a pretty real issue over there(there being Germany, Finland, and Ireland in the case of the folks I knew)
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Because it is their only condoned vice. Europeans just have their head up their ass and like to act like they have everything figured out and talk down and such. They pretend like theyre civilized. (obv a fucced up generalization)
y do u think i made my comma thread...
I think its partially the reason that there is a pushback on weed in holland right now. Most people who have control over society and experiment with weed will probably do it in the context of alcoholic inebriation. Which will have terrible effects if you arent acutely aware of how to mix them.
I heard somewhere that mixing weed and alcohol creates a psychotropic metabolic byproduct. And weed has little negative effects if it does get away from you. It makes lots of people's lives better when they use it everyday 
Combining weed and beer is kinda an anomaly in how they play off each other.
Its good for feeling kinda blissful and turning off ur brain. Extending that for too long will ruin your life.
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Nothing is more obnoxious than a grown ass adult that can't take care of their shit.
That's your problem (not theirs) - right? You're referring to your expectations. Your expectations create your belief in "obnoxious-ness"
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You claim to know "objective reality" when it comes to understanding people's behavior?
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Nothing is more obnoxious than a grown ass adult that can't take care of their shit.
That's your problem (not theirs) - right? You're referring to your expectations. Your expectations create your belief in "obnoxious-ness"
When someone makes their safety and wellbeing my concern(and by extension my responsibility) and is constantly crashing on my couch because they can't stop at one drink, then it sure as shit becomes my problem
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I recommend never taking responsibly for someone else's choices.
That's a path to misery.
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Ya, that's all fine and good in theory, but I'm not going to let my 100 lb friend go waltzing off into the night all by her lonesome in a bad section of town .
Also sometimes people who make bad choices need good friends who are there for them.
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: Asante]
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Asante said: No I'm not talking of the controversial member of old, allow me to explain.
My best friend is gifted, he'a bright. A musician, a sensitive human being.
Wonderful person.
He has however an impulse control issue: he drinks and he tokes, and these two invite each other. A beer invites a weed and a weed invites a beer. He downs a few of both in rapid succession.
Presto! I'm stuck with a retard who can't be reasoned with. Who's personality has become an unflattering caricature of the sensitive person he was. The memory impairment of the THC and the mind dulling effects of alcohol drop his IQ like 40 points.
You try to tell him something, he constantly interjects bullshit into it undermining your message getting across, his thinking is so impaired that what he says are feels about things are caricatural. He starts perceiving me as a caricature and doesn't take me seriously.
And he DOESN'T GET what it does to him. How impaired and incomplete he is under the influence.
It fucking throws his brain in the woodchipper.
If these were great quantities I could see it, but we're talking like 2 beers and 2 joints and its curtains for him.
Weed can be intellectually stimulating, beer can be jolly, but the combination acts on him like he had a brick to the back of his head. The combination amplifies the negative effects of both in him.
He seeks a disconnect with reality, to just "be gone" and the THC-alcohol combination hives him that.
He knows he has problems with alcohol and weed but the combination in him is so ugly. Its cost him girlfriends and friendships eroded.
Its just "getting fucked up", I wouldnt call what he has, "High".
Weed has its merit, alcohol has its merit, but he combines the two and he's like he just staggered out of a car crash.
Yes he zombifies and drives.
I hate beerweed. A combination to get FUCKED UP.
This story is so crazy to me, you are describing one of my oldest friends to the T that i blocked a while ago. He suffers from this disease of getting hammered all the time and when hes hammered epsecially when weed gets involved, everything and everyone in his reality becomes an absurd joke for his own entertainment, and he finds everything hilarious and that he can try any rediculous destructive action he imagines, now he's driven every friend and family member away from his friendship. Hes also a needy bastard for emotional support when sober
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: trees]
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So he drinks 2 beers and gets zombified off 2 beers. I have never met anyone like that even not sure thats possible unless they were like 14% alcahol sounds like he just likes to smoke andd drink a bit if hes anoying then thats probly just who he is and a couple beers help him open up. 2 beers is under the limit to drive even so i doubt hes that out of it? Sounds like maybe he is not who you want to hang with but some friends need to be droped sometimes just dont blame weed or beer.
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Depends on your height/weight too. And how much you've eaten that day. It used to literally take me like a few sips of beer to begin feeling tipsy back when I was like 18-21 and getting white girl wasted every weekend(no wonder with that kind of tolerance). 2 higher abv beers on an empty stomach is enough to get me good and toasty, for sure.
But not to the point of Asante's friend. But they could also be strong ass Dutch beers idk. I've long had a good 'you need to slow down' sensor equipped in my brain, though, not everyone does. Add weed to that(and I've definitely been there before where I've greened out, got the spins, and ended up literally crawling to the bathroom to puke) and it can be a precarious mix for sure.
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either way its a completely different experience when you mix it with weed
weed makes you not want to talk and alcohol makes you not care
i can understand why asante is annoyed if this happens on a regular basis
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pirate-blues said: wtf, I love beer and weed. I mean, generally it's a one drink and done situation for me because the type of beer I like is like 250 calories a bottle and usually 7%abv or higher - and also because I'm normally not looking to get schwasted(especially off beer). But something about that combo is really nice imo. Especially on a really hot humid day after a hike.
Yeah I find it a great combo. I don't drink too often any more though.
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pirate-blues said: Depends on your height/weight too. And how much you've eaten that day. It used to literally take me like a few sips of beer to begin feeling tipsy back when I was like 18-21 and getting white girl wasted every weekend(no wonder with that kind of tolerance). 2 higher abv beers on an empty stomach is enough to get me good and toasty, for sure.

I'm an average sized dude, and it doesn't take much for me to be buzzed.
Two 5%/average beers will have me pretty buzzed , even just one beer will have me feeling loose for sure. If they're 7%+ it doesn't take much for me at all.
I don't think I've ever drank more than like 6 or 7 beers through out an entire night during a night of "drinking" with friends/at a party lol.
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: openmind]
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Whenever weed is involved with drinking It's brought me more down to earth. Anytime it's just mass amounts of alchohol. No beuno.
In a few days I can fill up a big garbage bin with empty beers. Wake up in the morning and feel just fine , crack another one for breakfast. Dont do that anymore.
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: zZZz]
#26480655 - 02/11/20 04:46 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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precocious is my gender
nvm thats not a gender
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Re: I hate beerweed. [Re: zZZz]
#26480659 - 02/11/20 04:50 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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i started masturbating way too early tho
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Im not sure how thats relevant to beerweed but OK.
Its nice to get crossfaded but u can easily over-do it.
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RJ Tubs 202 said: He chooses to drink and toke. To assume he has an "impulse control issue" reflects your aversion to his decisions. Because some people behave in ways that go against your hopes and expectations doesn't mean they have a "problem". That's your problem - not theirs! He finds benefits in the behavior, and that's his right to do so. Don't let aversion destroy your love.
Thats not the story. He is in a self destructive spiral for many years now, he wants to quit and tries but keeps falling back into it.
His life suffers, his health suffers, his relationships suffer.
It took me a year to "get real" about dissociatives because they started to cause problems, but then I quit them and that was that. Hes trying to quit beerweed for over a decade now.
They catastrophically undermine his willpower. They tag team vs him. If he had used only one, he would have long since have quit.
weed = justify anything beer = lets drink it all
Fatal combination.
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